gettin a 6 bolt done in a 2g need help plz

[97spydagst]

Hey guys i was looking for a 7 bolt bottom end and after all this mess and all the shipping i thot i would do a 6 bolt found one right in town for 200$ now im wondering what i will all need to put it in. I talk to this guy on the phone and he said jsut get the holes were the block and head bolts up bored out bigger he said all my motor mounts would fit!is he right? or do i need alot more shit than i think? what about the clutch and flywheel i know i need a new flywheel but what about the clutch? any info will help let me know if u guys have dont it and how hard it was too do thanks alot

 

[98RedGs]

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/1gcasin2g.htm
http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/1g2g.asp
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/2g6boltmotorinstall.htm

Parts List
Compiled by Sean Caron with the help of the DSM1Gina2G list.

1G CAS (91-92 Optical Effect, 93-94 Hall Effect)
1G Oil Cooler (90-92 MD 157670 6bolt water cooled oil cooler)
1G Water Pump
1G Oil Pump/Front Case
1G Timing Belt necessities
2G Engine mount (modified) use 2G engine mount trimmed, with 1G tensioner arm
1G Timing Belt Covers (modified)
1G 90-92 6-bolt block (with whatever internals)
1G 6-bolt Flywheel
2G Starter Mounting bracket
1G Water Pipe
1G lower radiator hose
1G Thermostat housing/ Water Neck
1G 6-bolt oil pan Balance shafts (remove them or keep em, its up to you, we take them out)
2G Alternator
2G Power Steering Pump
2G A/C 2G Belts
On a 95-96 car with stock 2G head

Swap Plugs 1 and 4 with 2 and 3 (order is not important)

On a 97+ car with stock 2G head

No plug swap or injector swap is necessary

For a complete 1G 6-bolt head/block

Swap 2G ISC with 1G Throttle body 1G Coil pack and bracket
1G Head with internals
1G Intake manifold with stock 2G knock sensor
Reuse 2G sensor including oil, water temp, etc.
2G fuel rail to accommodate 2G Fuel Pressure Regulator
2G MAP sensor either in Intake Mani or T-d off of Brake booster Vac line
Relocate power transistor mount
Special thanks to the whole DSM1Gina2G list members who have helped in providing the useful information needed to compile this detailed list, Sean Caron for providing the car and motivating me. Justin and Robert from the RRE crew who fought hard when they were cutting oil pump covers, no more; just bolt it in with hand tools.


More very useful info can be found here at the Road Race Engineering site.

Read up.

 

[Tailchaser]

check out slowboy racing, they sell the kit for the swap and have the list of parts as well. They also list what parts you will have to modify to make the swap. You will need to have the holes in the head drilled out a bit for the 1G head studs if you wanna keep the 2g head.

 

[ILLEAGLEAWD]

Hey...I own a 2G AWD Talon and was looking into the 6 bolt swap. I was going to buy a JDM 6 Bolt Motor but I heard that you need to shave the front mount? Is this true?

 

[97spydagst]

Hey...I own a 2G AWD Talon and was looking into the 6 bolt swap. I was going to buy a JDM 6 Bolt Motor but I heard that you need to shave the front mount? Is this true?

yup u do but i havnt done it yet im gonnna do it this week so i will let u know

 

[Eagle26]

I just bought a 2g with a 6-bolt engine half installed also. I will be working my ass off trying to put it together once school gets out. The only problem is I dont know the first thing about engines. Anyway I have all of the motor mounts exept for the front one in. Would it be possible for me to just take the car to a machine shop and get a custon mount made?

 

[97spydagst]

I just bought a 2g with a 6-bolt engine half installed also. I will be working my ass off trying to put it together once school gets out. The only problem is I dont know the first thing about engines. Anyway I have all of the motor mounts exept for the front one in. Would it be possible for me to just take the car to a machine shop and get a custon mount made?

Hey i wouldnt do that proably coast way to much and woudnt work right go to a junkyard and find one or buy a new one online it would be cheaper and the way to go

 

[Eagle26]

what would i have to do to make the front motor mount fit right? anybody who has a 1G engine in a 2G?

 

[mitch83]

It isnt as a big a deal as it sounds you just have to trim the front left/driver side mount a bit with a cutting tool to clear the 1G water pump thats the only cutting involved.
mitch

 

[Eagle26]

oh ok, I thought that the front mount was out of alignment and need some custom fabrication to fit right. Thats what the guy I bought it from said.

 

[98RedGs]

oh ok, I thought that the front mount was out of alignment and need some custom fabrication to fit right. Thats what the guy I bought it from said.

Has anyone taken the time to actually click on the links I've posted to help and read any of the information posted in ANY of them.

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LOOK.

 

[97spydagst]

Has anyone taken the time to actually click on the links I've posted to help and read any of the information posted in ANY of them.

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LOOK.

yeah i have you know alot and always help everyone alot thanks man also since i have a 97 is the swap easyer and how?

 

[dsmayhem]

It would seem to me that 6bolt 2g swap would be a 6bolt 2g swap regardless of the year 2g. Same mounts etc and same wiring for the 1g CAS. That is unless you plan to use a 2g head.

Whats amazing is that 98RedGs posted links to the sites that tell us how to do it and it looks like nobody read them.

 

[mitch83]

Has anyone taken the time to actually click on the links I've posted to help and read any of the information posted in ANY of them.

where do you think I got the info
mitch

 

[mitch83]

http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/images/1g2g/1g2g02.jpg
LOOK

 

[Eagle26]

Well I did look at the link but I couldn't tell if that was the very front motor mount by the radiator because I don't have my car right next to me. Also it doesn't mention all of the motor mount mods you need to do. For the rear motor mount I had to get a custom lifter block to get it to bolt up right.

 

[BernZ97GSX]

that last picture posted is the only mod u have to do and thats the only motor mount u have to do it to. it took me all of 2 min to do that mod to the motormount. magnus has pics of it on their website already mounted on the motor click on the links. your making this out to be more trouble than what it really is.

 

[bigjangin]

cmon guys, please read all the links. All the modifications you have to do to make it work are spelled out for you. But you gotta read them.

 

[98RedGs]

yeah i have you know alot and always help everyone alot thanks man also since i have a 97 is the swap easyer and how?

Your welcome and it dosen't matter which 2g you have as far as the swap will be concerned unless the car has an eprom ecu in it. Then (according to rre's info) you could simply swap 1&4 spark plug wires and have no problem.

IF CHECK ENGINE LIGHTS OCCUR! TRY THIS:

(Blake Heisler's Fix for misfire Check Engine Lights (CELs) when putting a 1G Cam Angle Sensor (CAS) on a 2G)

Many people using the 1G CAS on a 2G head have been running into problems with misfire engine codes while at cruise. Many different things have been blamed for this and many different fixes have been attempted.

This fix will keep the ECU from looking for misfires at all. This is the criterion that must be met before the ECU will start to look for misfires:
1. 300+ seconds of steady state RPM less than 80% throttle position
2. Engine coolant temperature -10C or higher
3. Intake air temperature -10C or higher
4. Barometric pressure greater than 76 kPa

Honestly guys.. You're making this out to be a mountain instead of a small ant hill. Just simply goto the links and read the information that they have posted in there. These guys took the time to Do the swap and then even Take pictures and even Write in high detail everything you need to know. The least you could do would be read it before asking any of the questions... Because there repetitive.