Fuel pump broken?

[paintballer999]

ok, well i have currently finished building my car and timing is correct, new plugs and wires put on and when i went to turn on the car it only turns over. i pulled out a spark plug and it smells like fuel so i dried it off and tried turning the car over again and nothing happened. so now i went to the fuel rail and took off the hose on the end of the rail and attached another one that would feed into a bottle and when i went to turn on the car there was no fuel going into it. could i have a bad fuel pump?

 

[bryanwheat]

When there was no fuel coming out were you cranking the engine over, or were you just turning the key to the run position?

 

[paintballer999]

i was cranking the engine over

 

[miguelmcv]

If you put it on the ON position and didn't crank the engine, the pump will not turn ON, you need to crank the engine so the pump turns ON.

I was late

 

[paintballer999]

sorry for beating you to it but would this be a faulty pump?

 

[miguelmcv]

Check if you have power at the pump wire (+) to see if it is getting Power.
If it is getting power, then it is off, If it is not getting power then your relay might be off.

 

[paintballer999]

how do i check the pump, i have been searching for it. is there a place to test it in the engine bay? this way the pump may stay in the tank for now.

 

[miguelmcv]

I don't know if a tsi has it, But on my 95 eclipse, it has a connector at the battery side where you make a jump wire and will turn it ON.

But I can help you out on a search, Is is a FWD or AWD?.

 

[paintballer999]

it is fwd

 

[miguelmcv]

Here you go bro.
Go down to where it says, (ALL 1G).

Eclipse Fuel Pump Tech Tips

 

[paintballer999]

thanks, ill have to try it. also thumbs up for the quick and accurate responses.

also, would this tell me if i need to replace the pump if i run a new wire to it and it still does not turn on.

 

[bryanwheat]

IF you run power to it and it does not turn on than the pump is likely bad. You will also want to make sure that the ground wire has continuity to the body.

 

[miguelmcv]

If the pump doesn't turn ON like this, It doesn't assure you, that the pump is not good.,, There could be a mist connection or a damage wire at the pump location or line it self, The best way to test the pump is, to check at the pump location, It isn't that bad, You don't even need to remove the pump. It will show both wires from the top of the tank, (+ and - ).

It's up to you.

 

[paintballer999]

this is from roadraceengineering.com

An easy way to trigger the relay is to use the fuel pump check connector located on the wiring harness that runs along the firewall. You will see a single black connector that is taped to the wire harness near the battery. This connector gets power when ever the fuel pump should be on. Run a wire from this check connector to terminal #85 on the relay. From terminal #86 run a ground wire. If your relay also has a terminal #87A, ignore it (not used). Use care with all connections that you make, these are important wires !

where will this be on the firewall?

 

[miguelmcv]

Yes, it is located on the firewall, on one side of the battery.
Here is how the plug looks like.

1G DSM 4G63 Turbo Wiring Harness - Connector A52 - Fuel Pump Check

 

[paintballer999]

well, it turns out the pump runs. what could now be the issue to my car not starting? im going to flip the cas 180*, but if that does not fix it what will? i have seen the no start guide but i havent seen anything that catches my eye to be a fix.

 

[bryanwheat]

The pump runs but there is no fuel coming from the return side of the rail? If that is the case than you have an issue where the pressure is leaking back into the tank and you aren't getting the right pressure to the rail.

 

[jpmxrider489]

Is it getting to the rail. If not could it be a completly crap fuel filter. If you get a AFPR then you can check the pressure. As you know already, when the key is on then you should be able to hear the relay under the dash or hear the pump itself.

 

[miguelmcv]

2 + ^.

Check how much fuel is coming from the return line as stated (bryanwheat).

If there is not much fuel, check if there is a leak, if there is no leak, then check your Fuel filter,. If the filter is OK, then, or is your Fuel Pump or is leaking from the O ring (Fuel Pump).

 

[paintballer999]

am i going to check the line that is at the driver side of the fuel rail? should i follow the hose at the end that goes back to the fire wall?

 

[miguelmcv]

You have to check for fuel before the regulator.. just desconnect the line from the filter to the rail and fuel has to come out with force, if it doesn't, then check you filter.

 

[paintballer999]

if my timing is off, could it cause the engine not to try and turn on?

 

[92AWDHX40]

Do you have spark, and compression?

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-miscellaneous/217951-how-diagnose-no-start.html