FP Intake and IC Piping Q's

[defury]

I have a couple questions.

1) FP Intake has no vacuum hoses? Was thinking of buying one but noticed this, not really sure if its a smart idea especially since its my first mod.

2) IC piping, should I bother buying hard SMIC piping to flange for a 1g BOV? or just get a FMIC up front, it seems like a bad idea on the T-25 and I only plan to run a EVO III 16g

3) If you can do you have pictures of your FP intake want to see how it looks with different setups I can search this on my own but if you are bored and want to link it go nuts

My budget for a FMIC is super low, dejon SMIC piping is 190$ so as close to that as possible for an FMIC is that even possible?

 

[2gawdtsi]

Yes the Fp Intake has no vacuum ports, as a first mod it seems slightly overkill, whatre your goals?
If i were you, i would just go with an ebay pipe. and get a K&N FIPK filter.

Will you be wanting a front mount with your E316g setup? if you will, i would suggest just buying it now so you dont have to buy and rebuy stuff, a fmic wont give you any power with the stock turbo however.

but i doubt you will be able to find a good fmic for 190, so either way

 

[JFZERO ECLIPSE]

I personally dont think that an fp intake is an "overkill" first mod...
The way I look at it, its a great starting point seeing how theres really nothing he can possible screw up with the install...
I would buy an fp intake pipe with the bov return tube and a k&n FIPK to go along with it....but you should also tap the pipe to accept a barb fitting for the valve cover vent on the passenger side of the valve cover....There's a lot of threads on here about it....just make sure to get some kind of silter on the line...

If you want a cheap fmic that can still run the t-25 and then change to a 14b/16g sytle turbo....I would look towards punishment racing...Thats who I got mine through and fits perfect. You will have to buy a "U" pipe in order to get the t-25 hooked up but its worth it....

Jim

Mod the car once with things that will only need done once....From stock exhaust to 3inch exhaust....just skip 2.5 inch because its not worth it to upgrade later...get the idea???

Punishment FMIC----Price is well worth it trust me

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[Zdrummer15]

I personally dont think that an fp intake is an "overkill" first mod...
The way I look at it, its a great starting point seeing how theres really nothing he can possible screw up with the install...
I would buy an fp intake pipe with the bov return tube and a k&n FIPK to go along with it....but you should also tap the pipe to accept a barb fitting for the valve cover vent on the passenger side of the valve cover....There's a lot of threads on here about it....just make sure to get some kind of silter on the line...

If you want a cheap fmic that can still run the t-25 and then change to a 14b/16g sytle turbo....I would look towards punishment racing...Thats who I got mine through and fits perfect. You will have to buy a "U" pipe in order to get the t-25 hooked up but its worth it....

Jim

Mod the car once with things that will only need done once....From stock exhaust to 3inch exhaust....just skip 2.5 inch because its not worth it to upgrade later...get the idea???

Punishment FMIC----Price is well worth it trust me

I agree completely. If your eventual plans are for a 16g or something in that range, then just buy upgrades that will support that turbo. Some things like a fmic may not help compared to just replacing the stock piping with hard piping, but why not spend $400 now on the PR fmic instead of $200 on piping, then $400 later to get the fmic.

 

[defury]

How does the FP fit, is it like a "injen style" where it pushes the filter into the fender and moving stock MAS or is it like the "dejon style" where the MAS doesn't move at all. I really hate the looks of how the injen pipe sticks the filter way crunched and cuts down on the filter options.

Also, I'll have to look into the PR FMIC, you say it will worth with the t25? will I notice much lag?

 

[JFZERO ECLIPSE]

I havent had a chance to put the fp intake on but I'm sure it'll clear due to it being shorter overall....

The pr fmic will work with the t-25 but youll either need to fab up a u pipe or just buy one from dejonpowerhouse.com

It's a t-25 what lag are you talking bout haha...you press gas it spools

 

[rEclipserGST]

You said you were wanting this:

e3 16g turbo
fmic
metal intake pipe

Those are baller mods. Your going to hear & feel the difference. ESPECIALLY with a 3" exhaust. I happen to have all of this except I'm rocking the 14b maniac.

My car sounds nasty. Just needs a tune bad. Too many mods, not enuff tune

 

[dsmdeliveryboy]

Here is a FP intake pipe with a K&N FIPK, very good mod IMO and I could feel a difference with my CALIBRATED butt dyno Lol

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[defury]

I havent had a chance to put the fp intake on but I'm sure it'll clear due to it being shorter overall....

The pr fmic will work with the t-25 but youll either need to fab up a u pipe or just buy one from dejonpowerhouse.com

It's a t-25 what lag are you talking bout haha...you press gas it spools

Ugh, that brings the total up to 400 at which point I might as well get a dejon FMIC that will fit and probably be better quality (not sure about this, just assuming)

 

[1997_GSX]

This is the same as the VRSpeed kit for $240 shipped you can't beat it. Buy it and put it in a closet for when you get the 16g.

After I got done installing it on my brothers Talon TSi AWD

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ECLIPSE 95-99 BOLT ON FRONT MOUNT INTERCOOLER KIT DSM: eBay Motors (item 150462855241 end time Aug-30-10 16:55:53 PDT)

And the FP intake installed on my car when it was mostly stock. With a Dual bb 54 trim baby turbo.

Oh and before the tards come here and bash me for not recirculating I have already switched to speed density. To the OP I do recommend recirculating.

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[defury]

Sorry no ebay from me, bad experiences with it in the past. Anyway I am looking at the PR FMIC again because it appears to come with the proper fit on a t-25 but then not really sure what I will have to change when I go with the E316G.

 

[1997_GSX]

I don't know why you just don't wait till you get the 16g to put it on, Its kinda dumb to put a fmic on a T-25, It will make it spool slower and offer little to no benefit.

You will most likely have to change the lower intercooler pipe, the hotside. Which is a waste. Trust me buy it all put it in a closet and put it all on. That way you can really feel the difference and save money too.

 

[defury]

My stock BOV and piping is leaking, therefore I need new piping and a 1g bov flange. I can either spend 200$ now on SMIC piping or buy a FMIC now for 300$

Its a pretty obvious choice really. I am not buying a 16g until late next year, you suggest I drive my car for another year and a bit with a massive boost leak instead of slightly slower spool time?

 

[1997_GSX]

My stock BOV and piping is leaking, therefore I need new piping and a 1g bov flange. I can either spend 200$ now on SMIC piping or buy a FMIC now for 300$

Its a pretty obvious choice really. I am not buying a 16g until late next year, you suggest I drive my car for another year and a bit with a massive boost leak instead of slightly slower spool time?

Hmm well you never said your stock stuff was leaking. Lol have have 3 sets of the stock stuff in my garage. SMICS, Piping and bovs. I tried selling it all cheap but nobody wants it anymore.

I guess go with the PR kit, its still an CXRacing core which is mostly sold on ebay but is good quality.

The FMIC on my brothers talon requires cutting some of the car away by the radiator under the passenger headlight. Along with trimming of the bumper which you will have to do on any fmic install. Be careful when you do that, your bumper is rare and expensive to replace.

The bov that comes with the pr kit is a cheap china Greddy knockoff which will probably leak too. You may be able to compensate by adjusting it harder.

 

[defury]

Yea I actually have a 1g BOV on the way currently. The bumper I have now is already cracked which makes it easier to have to cut, but from the threads I have read on the PR kit it needs minimal cutting so that should be good. I would replace the stock stuff with other stock stuff for now but I wouldn't pay more then the shipping cost before it was more effective to just buy the FMIC because I would have to buy a flange adapter too

My only issue now is finding a FMIC that I can bolt up to the T-25 for 400$ or under. Not sure if the PR one will, I emailed them to ask.


Alternatively for 450$

http://dsm.dejonpowerhouse.com/edit/2-03B.htm

However not sure how the Dejon kits are for installing.

 

[1997_GSX]

Yea I actually have a 1g BOV on the way currently. The bumper I have now is already cracked which makes it easier to have to cut, but from the threads I have read on the PR kit it needs minimal cutting so that should be good. I would replace the stock stuff with other stock stuff for now but I wouldn't pay more then the shipping cost before it was more effective to just buy the FMIC because I would have to buy a flange adapter too

My only issue now is finding a FMIC that I can bolt up to the T-25 for 400$ or under. Not sure if the PR one will, I emailed them to ask.


Alternatively for 450$

DEJON | Powerhouse

However not sure how the Dejon kits are for installing.

It looks like the standard fitment is for a 14b/16g car. There is an option for the stock T25 turbo.

 

[defury]

It looks like the standard fitment is for a 14b/16g car. There is an option for the stock T25 turbo.

On the PR one or the Dejon one?



I did notice that the dejon one requires you to buy the UICP since its a long route so I could buy the SMIC piping now and then upgrade to the dejon long route FMIC kit later and reuse my old UICP piping.

Front-Mount Intercooler Kits. Piping connects to the turbo and ends at the fender hole like the stock IC (for piping to the Throttle Body, see our Side-Mount IC page)

See how it says it requires

DEJON | Powerhouse

But then you are getting into the 600$ range and again easier to just buy a PR kit.

 

[JFZERO ECLIPSE]

Buy a PR kit, then buy dejons u-pipe....voila done

 

[esoteric]

Buy a PR kit, then buy dejons u-pipe....voila done

PR Kit bolts to stock T-25

Also /wave from SK

 

[Alex42590]

im still having trouble understanding this about the fp intake having no vacuum lines, im planning on putting a gm maf and translator, e3 16g, vrsf short route fmic,
im wating to get the fp intake non recirculated as i am going to vent to atmosphere but then what do i do with the lines? i can remove them? i currently have a ebay intake pipe which has the fittings but im getting the fp intake and i dont want to drill fittings on it....

can i get rid of the boost control solenoid? if so how do i do this?
what about the other vacuum lines?
can i remove all these without any idle issues?
i am going to run a electronic boost controller...

and yes i have searched and i came upon this thread looking for help
please help

 

[doubled07]

be careful which intercooler you get. best bang for the buck isn't always the best idea. Buschur has done alot of research on his new Garrett designs. Keeps temps way down.
Random FMIC information with a little turbo info mixed in.....

I just purchased one after reading all the data. Seems like alot but making power cost money.