FP 68HTA turbo

[Bmxr152]

So i ordered the 68HTA turbo from forced performance. Ive read every post i can about it, but all i can find is stuff on english racings e85 car. So anyone that has the 68hta please give me some feedback about the turbo. Anyone have any dyno specs besides curt browns car?

 

[Barlow]

Not that it really matters but I think your talking about the English racing(auto) car. I believe Brown's dsm's use a manual transmission. The turbo is still quite knew for alot of feedback - I think there might be something about this turbo on a EVO from down-under going to a dyno. But like you already said you ordered the turbo - you could always write a review once you install it. Dyno it before and after if you have the time and money.

 

[Bmxr152]

Yeah, i ordered it but am waiting till i get my ecu sent off the get DSMlink and my supporting fuel setup. Im going to dyno it once i get everything together, but most likely wont be until summertime.

 

[BoostFrenzy]

There is a local guy who has one. He dyno'd but I forgot what his numbers were (but they were good). Even the tuner was impressed by how good it did on our pump 91.

I'll see if I can track down the numbers on SCE

 

[Tanro]

Thats the turbo I am going to be using once I get through the Stage 0 and Stage 1 upgrades on my 6 bolt.

Still waiting on my pistons and rebuild kit hopefully all be here by next friday so I can go crazy next weekend. I have everything prepped. I just need to pull my engine this week, Assemble the motor once everthing is in. Then drop it in over the weekend I hope. Then I can start modding for real WOOT!

 

[BoostFrenzy]

That car I was thinking of dynoed at 330whp and 350wtq @ 25psi at RRE on our pump 91.

 

[habitatguy187]

It's pretty expensive for it's capabilities but it's a complete bolt-on for 1g guys which is nice.

 

[Bmxr152]

That car I was thinking of dynoed at 330whp and 350wtq @ 25psi at RRE on our pump 91.

What were the supporting mods of that car?

 

[1992dsm13]

so Bmxr152
did you ever install that turbo? how was it was looking at that turbo to and was wondering if it was any good?

 

[GSX-911]

im planning on using this turbo, hopefully good results, will keep people posted.

 

[turbotalon1g]

Curt brown never got dyno numbers for his 68hta setup or at least made them public and I'm pretty sure that he did not make a pass with it on the car or at least didn't share times.

Please stop putting his name with the 68hta, he did it old school on the regular E316G. 499whp.

 

[johnmarines]

Mine dynoed right under 400whp..... thats with a build block and all supporting mods running e85 @ 30psi.

 

[Ripley]

Doesn't seem that bad for the price. What's better for less?

 

[johnmarines]

Doesn't seem that bad for the price. What's better for less?

Dont get me wronge... I was impressed.. its a great turbo but I wanted alittle more...450+whp was my goal and that turbo didnt get me there. I was sitting in that little grey area where 400 wasnt enough but I didnt want a huge turbo pushing 600.

 

[hurricanecris24]

for the money i dont think its worth it it only performs a little better than the evo3 16g.

 

[toofast82]

Mine dynoed right under 400whp..... thats with a build block and all supporting mods running e85 @ 30psi.

Was this on a dynojet, mustang, dyno dynamics?
How well did it hold the 30psi?
This is with the 9:1, jmfab smim, and 272s in your profile?

 

[dsmshae90]

Dont get me wronge... I was impressed.. its a great turbo but I wanted alittle more...450+whp was my goal and that turbo didnt get me there. I was sitting in that little grey area where 400 wasnt enough but I didnt want a huge turbo pushing 600.

That doesn't sound right to me at all... You should def be making more power @30psi on E85

 

[VETTE_50_TH]

Its better to buy a slightly bigger turbo and run less boost then push a smaller turbo to its max. Jussayin

 

[dsmdeliveryboy]

Its better to buy a slightly bigger turbo and run less boost then push a smaller turbo to its max. Jussayin

Yeah but its always better to run a turbo in its efficiency range it was designed to be ran at and 22psi and up is what the turbo is meant to be run at, 30psi might be pushing it but just to see how much power hes making isn't bad.

Has a compression and leakdown test been done on the motor? Checked for crank-walk etc?

 

[TSimage]

Guys shouldn't focus too much on some of these guys who have these outrageous dyno numbers and track times.. There's a reason why these times are never duplicated . Don't think for one second they are using 100% off the shelf parts and are on the exact fuel mixture they tell you they are or boost levels.

Take it all with a grain of salt and believe nothing that can't be duplicated as described..

With that being said, there are indeed better options than the 68HTA. It doesn't out perform the Evo3 enough to justify the price to most and at that price level you might as well go with a less restrictive setup that isn't being pushed as far. Safer tunes=reliability.

 

[gofer]

That doesn't sound right to me at all... You should def be making more power @30psi on E85

Agreed. This is the turbo I'm running on my stock 7-bolt that hasn't been removed from my engine bay with 100,000 miles on it. The mods are in my profile and I have a few threads on this thing if anyone bothers to look.

HTA68, FP2's, E85
12.07 @ 116 on HTA68
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Guys shouldn't focus too much on some of these guys who have these outrageous dyno numbers and track times.. There's a reason why these times are never duplicated . Don't think for one second they are using 100% off the shelf parts and are on the exact fuel mixture they tell you they are or boost levels.

Take it all with a grain of salt and believe nothing that can't be duplicated as described..

With that being said, there are indeed better options than the 68HTA. It doesn't out perform the Evo3 enough to justify the price to most and at that price level you might as well go with a less restrictive setup that isn't being pushed as far. Safer tunes=reliability.

I agree.

ER is using this turbo and running 10.1's and if DSM'rs watch that video and think this turbo is going to get them those 1/4 times and trap speeds they need a reality check. That 1g ER has a built 2.3L running E100, A/T, no boost control since they just weld the wastegate flapper shut, and to top it all off it cuts 1.3 60ft times. Its tuned by one of the best out there, Lucas English, and to the limit with no reliability in mind. Nothing about that 1g is practical for 99% of the DSM'rs that are in the market for this turbo. Don't get me wrong though, that car is a damn track SLEEPER no matter how you look at it but that turbo HATES its life a quartermile at a time.
I also agree there are better options out there however, if your trying to "appear" like your running a TD05 turbo theres nothing better.

If you read the through the threads I linked to above you'll see that my tune is fairly conservative considering I'm running E85 as far as AFR's and timing advance goes. But if you step back and think about it, whats really safe about a tune when your running 29psi on a stock bottom end with 100k on the clock? Not a whole lot would be the correct answer.

 

[johnmarines]

Was this on a dynojet, mustang, dyno dynamics?
How well did it hold the 30psi?
This is with the 9:1, jmfab smim, and 272s in your profile?

it was on a dynojet. Its stayed pretty much at 30 psi the entire pull. My mods are as follows:

Eagle H-Beam Rods
Wiseco Forged Pistons 9.0:1C.R.
BSE
Precision 6152s
T3 Shearer Fab Turbo Manifold & O2 Housing
1000cc PTE injectors
walbro 255 fuel pump(rewired)
cams 275/275
FMIC
3" GM mas
3" exhaust catless
linkv3
Tial BOV
Tial 44mm Wastegate
TB Bored to 63mm + half shaft mod
JMF manifold
E85 @ 30psi

All in all If I had to do it again I would have not bought it... I would have added a few more hundred dollars and bought a bigger turbo from the start. Ive noticed FP had reduced the price but when I first bought mine it was almost at regular price. I also had a bad experence with FP in the way of customer service and will not buy another turbo from them. Do they offer a good turbo... yes they do but so do others. I would pay aliitle extra for a turbo as long as I know the customer service will be there for me at the end. FP didnt provide that for me.

 

[LucasEnglish]

Hope I dont take this to far off topic.

- I would never weld the wg flaper shut it would make the car slower. I do run with WG line pulled but the wg blows open. I did put more tench on the WG so it would spike just over 40psi this made the car slower and the turbo did fail. I feel at the 33psi spike holding 30psi this turbo will last a long time and does not make any more hp above that.

-Other then the fuel pump failure with the stock motor I have not had a motor problem since. I run DSM LINK V3 with full knock control and have 0 counts. So the idea of me going crazy with the tune and not caring for my motor is for sure not the case.

-I bet this car has more miles running low 10s with no problems then any DSM every built.

-The avg DSMer is going to put this on there street car and not ever run close to what I do.

-But the AVG DSMer can do the same thing as I did with a real budget and have a great time. My car is very realistic car for the Avg person to build.

-I have driven my car to the track. While I do not feel its safe for the road if I ever got in a wreck but I have been known to take risk


I feel with the right tuning, fuel and mod path 450whp should be a easy # to hit on this turbo. I do just over 400whp on most EVOIII setup right. This is on a DynoJet Uncorrected #






UOTE=gofer;152344548]Agreed. This is the turbo I'm running on my stock 7-bolt that hasn't been removed from my engine bay with 100,000 miles on it. The mods are in my profile and I have a few threads on this thing if anyone bothers to look.

HTA68, FP2's, E85
12.07 @ 116 on HTA68
​

I agree.

ER is using this turbo and running 10.1's and if DSM'rs watch that video and think this turbo is going to get them those 1/4 times and trap speeds they need a reality check. That 1g ER has a built 2.3L running E100, A/T, no boost control since they just weld the wastegate flapper shut, and to top it all off it cuts 1.3 60ft times. Its tuned by one of the best out there, Lucas English, and to the limit with no reliability in mind. Nothing about that 1g is practical for 99% of the DSM'rs that are in the market for this turbo. Don't get me wrong though, that car is a damn track SLEEPER no matter how you look at it but that turbo HATES its life a quartermile at a time.
I also agree there are better options out there however, if your trying to "appear" like your running a TD05 turbo theres nothing better.

If you read the through the threads I linked to above you'll see that my tune is fairly conservative considering I'm running E85 as far as AFR's and timing advance goes. But if you step back and think about it, whats really safe about a tune when your running 29psi on a stock bottom end with 100k on the clock? Not a whole lot would be the correct answer.

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[SosaPerformance]

Lucas im glad you came in this thread and posted the FACTS on your setup. Just goes to show not to believe everything you read on a forum cause some people just post the wrong info and mislead. Im not trying to talk sh*t but why would you make a post with all the info completely wrong especially knowing that owner/builder/tuner will end up reading it.

 

[gofer]

I hope you didn't take my post the wrong way Lucas, sounds like you did but hopefully not.

I would never weld the wg flaper shut it would make the car slower.

Thats interesting, I didn't know it would make your car slower but I guess it makes sense as there would be a lot of unnecessary turbulence in the exhaust.

... and to the limit with no reliability in mind.

So the idea of me going crazy with the tune and not caring for my motor is for sure not the case.

I'm not saying you don't care for your motor, I guess in a way it sounds like that but thats not at all what I meant. When I was on the dyno my car did over the posted numbers but it was tuned to its limits. Running 2psi more and 3* more advanced netted me 6awhp. It wasn't knocking but this things my DD so running it to the ragged edge for 6 more horses isn't worth it. I hope you can agree theres a such thing as a "safe" tune and a "race" tune, when I posted that I meant you didn't have reliability getting to the grocery store across town in mind.

The avg DSMer is going to put this on there street car and not ever run close to what I do.

Yep, thats all I was really trying to say.

I feel with the right tuning, fuel and mod path 450whp should be a easy # to hit on this turbo. I do just over 400whp on most EVOIII setup right. This is on a DynoJet Uncorrected #

...and a built 2.3?


The bottom line and the initial message I was trying to get across in my OP was that if people look at your results with that turbo and think they can do the same its unrealistic. The reality of it is that its a Evo III 16g on steroids, not a bolt on 10/11 sec turbo.
Sorry if you took my OP the wrong way, I love this turbo and I love the sleeper status and big power it brings to the table with the right tuning and mods. I just feel like the majority of the community here has a false since of what this turbo can do because of the amazing times you and your wife have been cutting in that 1g.

I have a question about your 1g and the boost your running since you mentioned it. You talked about the wg blowing open so do you see any surge in your logs when it hits full boost?