1G Flywheel/clutch question

[96talonchick]

Act streetlite flywheel with a Comp stage 3 clutch. A friend of mine has this setup for sale and I was offered it since I need to replace mine. My question is, is the pedal going to have a stock feeling to it or is it going to be harder to press?

 

[Vegas Smith]

I would ask previous owner

 

[AlmightySo]

What clutch exactly?

 

[96talonchick]

It's a 2600 comp clutch. And I did ask the previous owner, but it's hard to gauge. He is swapping to auto because he's a paraplegic and doesn't have the leg strength to push it down anymore. He got about 50 miles off the setup and decided to swap to auto.

 

[gsxeclipse102]

It will deff be harder to push down. Will it bother you? Only you can answer that question. Ive had my girlfriend drive my 4 puck 2600 clutch and she got used to it quick. I rec replacing master and slave cylinder with oem parts same time you install clutch. Heavier clutches will blow out old worn cylinders really quick.

 

[96talonchick]

One of them was just replaced this summer, believe it was the master. I tried out an act 2100 clutch and it was definitely not my best friend . Guess I shall see if I can come up with the cash for it first.

Thanks for the responses.

 

[richardlapalme]

If this clutch compare to my act 2600, it will be definitely harder to push.

It will deff be harder to push down. Will it bother you? Only you can answer that question. Ive had my girlfriend drive my 4 puck 2600 clutch and she got used to it quick. I rec replacing master and slave cylinder with oem parts same time you install clutch. Heavier clutches will blow out old worn cylinders really quick.

I second that, and you will need the extended clutch slave cylinder rod.
https://www.rtmracing.com/xcart/product.php?productid=18900&cat=1887&page=1

 

[pauleyman]

If this clutch compare to my act 2600, it will be definitely harder to push.



I second that, and you will need the extended clutch slave cylinder rod.
https://www.rtmracing.com/xcart/product.php?productid=18900&cat=1887&page=1

Extended rod is a bandaid. Read whatever opinions you want but I do not and I will not ever use one.

 

[pauleyman]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/clutch-basic-101-a-clutch-basics-thread-for-everybody.459908/

 

[richardlapalme]

Extended rod is a bandaid. Read whatever opinions you want but I do not and I will not ever use one.

Ok it'a legitimate choice for you, and i read your clutch basis 101 on this subject. Sure, nobody can disagree on your statement.
Maybe the hydraulic stock clutch system even if the master and slave are new, and the other components look in good shape (I know it's subjective) on the 1g is not perfect for heavy aftermaket clutch like the act 2600. Maybe we all should go with twin clutch. Or complete replacement for all the clutch related components???

I use this ''bandaid'' for aditional source of adjustement since 8 year now and i have no sign of premature wear on my system.
I can push back my slave cylinder by hand, so, I don't have preload on my system. And no clutch drag in the clutch drag test.
http://www.jackstransmissions.com/pages/clutch-drag-kills-synchros

But this is just my personal experience.

 

[pauleyman]

Ok it'a legitimate choice for you, and i read your clutch basis 101 on this subject. Sure, nobody can disagree on your statement.
Maybe the hydraulic stock clutch system even if the master and slave are new, and the other components look in good shape (I know it's subjective) on the 1g is not perfect for heavy aftermaket clutch like the act 2600. Maybe we all should go with twin clutch. Or complete replacement for all the clutch related components???

I use this ''bandaid'' for aditional source of adjustement since 8 year now and i have no sign of premature wear on my system.
I can push back my slave cylinder by hand, so, I don't have preload on my system. And no clutch drag in the clutch drag test.
http://www.jackstransmissions.com/pages/clutch-drag-kills-synchros

But this is just my personal experience.

If you can still push in the slave by hand then it is not possible for that extended rod to do anything beneficial. All it would do is change the position of the slave piston. If it does provide benefit I'd like to know how. Seriously. How?

 

[richardlapalme]

If you can still push in the slave by hand then it is not possible for that extended rod to do anything beneficial. All it would do is change the position of the slave piston. If it does provide benefit I'd like to know how. Seriously. How?

I'm sure you can push back your slave cylinder with certain amount of force. Less than a quarter of an inch is it too much? Before my ACT 2600 i had stock clutch unit, and i never had problem with my old assembly. but heavy duty clutch force me to change everythings.

Mitsuihshi provided their master cylinder with adjustement: why??

The benefit is to (again)give aditional source of adjustement, not relying only on this.
Just read:
https://www.rtmracing.com/xcart/product.php?productid=18900&page=1

At the same time I would like to know your clutch system because the acces to your profile is restricted.

You seems to have a ''black or white'' position on this subject, I assume nobody can convince you, and you seems to master this subject more than most.
The point is not to tell everybody to do anything and relying on the bandaids to adjust their system. But there still option when all is done corectely, or when money is short to change the entire assembly.
In a positive way for you, when i will change my next act 2600 clutch (in X year), i'll give some more attention on my pedal assembly, and my clutch fork. But if the clutch drag test fail, i will put extended rod without hesitation.
It works well for me for years, and surely a lot of other dsm guys.
I don't want to be in a endless discussion for that. You have your position, and again, i respect that. Unfortunately, the extended rod works for me without ill side-effects.

 

[96talonchick]

I suppose, does it make a difference that it's a 2g body with a 4g63 6 bolt swapped?

 

[gsxeclipse102]

The body of the car doesnt matter just make sure your hydraulics are in good condition.

Extended rod is a bandaid. Read whatever opinions you want but I do not and I will not ever use one.

I agree with this. A properly working hydraulic system shouldnt need an extended slave rod. Good oem parts with a proper adjustment and bleed system has worked on my 2600 and 2900 clutches along with my friends.

 

[gsxeclipse102]

96talonchick i just realized your fwd(read your story of getting your car). A fwd with a 14b/16g really doesnt need a 2600. If its cheap get it but honestly id get a flywheel and 2100 clutch. The engagement will be much nicer and youll enjoy driving it a little more then a 2600.

 

[96talonchick]

$450 for the clutch and flywheel. My original thought was to warranty the OEM clutch I purchased from work and replace the flywheel if that was needed too. But I asked my friend what flywheel brand he recommends and that's when he offered his setup to me.