First time back at the track...

[Gooberlog]

What did you run in the 1/8?

Do you mean what did i run in the eighth last trip to the track with the laser, or are you asking what i ran in the eighth when i ran my best time of 12.00 or my best 14b time or 12.42? The 12.00 and 12.42 where my best times on a 14b and 16g on my white talon i used to have. I might still have the time slips though. I know i have the one for the laser that calculated out to a 12.81



The route canal wasn't that bad, once they hit me up with the first two shots of novicane and then a third i didn't feel a thing, and then when i did it wasn't bad at all...and I'm a wuss when it comes to pain. After they were done they just told me to pop 3 advils every 6 hours and i had minor if any pain after the procedure.

The worst part is, one of my routes was heavily eroded and they have to go back in next week and try to cement in the gap which may or may not take. Then i go in for a check up 6 months after that to see how it took. If it doesn't hold well the tooth has to come out and i have to get a fake tooth installed! If it does take well, then it will save that tooth for another 5-10 years. So either way that tooth is coming out sooner or later.

So this Monday i went to the dentist for deep gum cleaning on the left side of my mouth, Wednesday i went to the endodontist for the first half of my route canal (now i have a temporary filling so i have to eat soft foods for a week), next Monday i go back to the dentist for deep gum cleaning on the right side of my mouth and next Thursday i go back to the endodontist to finish the route canal and get the cement filling the gap of my route.
If you look at me smile, i have nice teeth. But i haven't been to the dentist in about 2-3 years and i only brush once a day and i don't floss yet. The 4 visits are costing my wife and I over $1,200 with dental insurance. Brush and go to the dentists at least twice a year people or you will PAY!

 

[Gooberlog]

The TEST DRIVE
So i took it for a better test drive today. Didn't have a chance to take it up to red line though, too many sunday drivers. The trans shifted good in all gears but i do have a noise. It sounds like a bad bearing. When i put my hand on the bell housing area at idle i could feel a vibration to the beat of the noise. I'm guessing that since the trans looked like it had been sitting out side for some time and the fluid was drained out of it, that maybe one of the bearings inside the trans is starved for oil and could be damaged. I'm hoping the EVO MR gear lube i put in will do some magic. It's also possible that noise is traveling and it could be coming from one of the rod or main bearings that could have got damaged when my balance shaft bearing spun. All i got to say is if this thing makes it to the track next Friday, I'll be glad I'm bringing a trailer.
I fixed one problem, second gear grinding, and now i have a noise that sounds like a failed bearing. FML

I'm going to the beach for car week tomorrow morning (driving my truck down) so i guess some time during next week i'll try to put some miles on the car and see how the noise does. If the trans issue would solve it's self I'd really like to get V3 and then work on my tired suspension. But this is how it goes with a DSM

 

[Phil1320]

The TEST DRIVE
So i took it for a better test drive today. Didn't have a chance to take it up to red line though, too many sunday drivers. The trans shifted good in all gears but i do have a noise. It sounds like a bad bearing. When i put my hand on the bell housing area at idle i could feel a vibration to the beat of the noise. I'm guessing that since the trans looked like it had been sitting out side for some time and the fluid was drained out of it, that maybe one of the bearings inside the trans is starved for oil and could be damaged. I'm hoping the EVO MR gear lube i put in will do some magic. It's also possible that noise is traveling and it could be coming from one of the rod or main bearings that could have got damaged when my balance shaft bearing spun. All i got to say is if this thing makes it to the track next Friday, I'll be glad I'm bringing a trailer.
I fixed one problem, second gear grinding, and now i have a noise that sounds like a failed bearing. FML

I'm going to the beach for car week tomorrow morning (driving my truck down) so i guess some time during next week i'll try to put some miles on the car and see how the noise does. If the trans issue would solve it's self I'd really like to get V3 and then work on my tired suspension. But this is how it goes with a DSM

How loud is it? You may want to pull the trans out and dissassemble to check, it shouldn't be that time consumingbut it still sucks. If it sounds rotational there's a decent chance that whatever is causing it is not going to break off but, if there is some play in there it may cause you to miss gears and we don't want that. Definitely get out there and give a couple quick 1-2, 2-3, and 3-4 shifts......don't want to see you not get the full day of racing in that you are waiting for.

Glad to hear your dentist visit went ok. I hate the dentist

I still have to get a crown on the tooth that I had my canal done on years ago, I better get with the program!

Also, off subject, two things:

One--I did find another front 1ga front bumper cover, so I have an extra now. But, if you find one, let me know, wouldn't mind two extras!

Two--Our 14b buddy SBstar needs another ECU 91+ EPROM, he is having trouble with the few that he has access to. Can you put your feelers out down there in Maryland for him?
I'm going to be talking with some of my friends that still communicate on a larger level with the local DSM community up here to try to find one. Any help would be great Travis!

Ok, I will wait for your next update! Good luck with it!

 

[Gooberlog]

If it sounds rotational there's a decent chance that whatever is causing it is not going to break off....don't want to see you not get the full day of racing in that you are waiting for.
It does sound rotational and my thoughts were the same as yours. I don't want to ignore the noise for good, but i'll go through the gears real good and if all is well, i'll look in to it more after race day. Under normal driving the trans is shifting great!

One--I did find another front 1ga front bumper cover, so I have an extra now. But, if you find one, let me know, wouldn't mind two extras!
I have only seen 1gb bumpers for sale, i have been keeping my eye out as i look in the classifieds daily.

Two--Our 14b buddy SBstar needs another ECU 91+ EPROM, he is having trouble with the few that he has access to. Can you put your feelers out down there in Maryland for him?
I saw in your thread that he needed an ecu, i thought he said that his buddy had one that he could sell him cheap but he was tight on cash. Either way i'll keep my eyes and ears open for a 91-94 eprom and a 1ga bumper. I might have to get on the horn and make some calls. Worst case, i'll put the word out next week at the ECM TUNING drag meet.

I added some responses above in the section that quoted you, so give that a quick glance.

Once i get back from the beach i'll put a few miles on her and do some race simulations and i'll see how the noise sounds. I'm still not used to shifting into second gear with out letting the revs come down. What a luxury.

 

[SBstar]

Thanks guys...buddy's one was also going down the crapper

Good luck getting that thing back to the track, as Phil said make sure that trans is all sorted out first.

 

[Phil1320]

We got your back Shane.... Hope for the best!

Will a non eprom work to get you going? Or do you not want to deal with possible fuel cut at all?

That may be the easiest to get you going.........let us know!

 

[SBstar]

We got your back Shane.... Hope for the best!

Will a non eprom work to get you going? Or do you not want to deal with possible fuel cut at all?

That may be the easiest to get you going.........let us know!

DSMLink is on the way w/eprom. Got a deal on V2.5 with an eprom and a buddy is helping me out a bit for some work in return. Should be up and going to the track by next week!

 

[Phil1320]

DSMLink is on the way w/eprom. Got a deal on V2.5 with an eprom and a buddy is helping me out a bit for some work in return. Should be up and going to the track by next week!

Awesome!

 

[Gooberlog]

Good to hear you found what your looking for. Hopefully no more fish smell

 

[Gooberlog]

So i got the car out for a more thorough test drive today. The bearing type noise i was hearing goes away when i push the clutch, so i'm thinking it's the throw out bearing. What I don't get is why it's making noise. The Throw out bearing was installed in my old trans last fall new, i swapped it over to the new trans and lubed everything up real good and now it makes noise???
But i took the car for a spin and the trans seems to be shifting ok around 7000 rpms. The car launched ok on the street spinning all four hard so i'm going to get some C-16 for her and get her ready for the track this saturday. Hopefully the weather works out for us all.

 

[Phil1320]

Well, that seems to be better news than worse. I think you're probably ok! T/O bearing could still be shot after a year depending, but, you wouldn't think. Yeah, the weather doesn't look like it is going to cooperate. I'm really getting sick of the Northeast. Well, let's hope for the best and see what happens. We may have a rain date for our track rental, we'll see. If not, chances are I'm done for the year. I don't like racing when it's in the 40's. My nose is running, everything including the track and driveline parts are cold. Sure, power will be optimal, but, whatever. It's just not the optimal situation. Chances of me trying to go to a test & tune are slim as well. All day for 5 or so passes and having to immediately return to the staging lanes to ensure as many passes as possible also sucks.

 

[Gooberlog]

Yeah i hear that. Test and tune nights aren't the greatest for letting a dsm cool down well. I'm happy to know that the noise isn't actually inside the transmission case, but still after that work putting everything in and cleaning everything up and painting everything nice, i'm pissed to have that noise when i lubed it all up good. What the hell. But i'll just put some race gas in her and trailer her up there if the weather doesn't look too bad. I need to start getting some necessary tools together to take with me to the track. Mine as well since i'll have my truck to put it in.

 

[Phil1320]

Even lubed up its the bearing themsleves and it's sealed so nothing you can do about it but replace it. No biggie. Just time. Better than something internal.

Im rooting for you and I bet if you get a clean pass you'll be back down where you were before.

 

[hookedOnDsm]

Great thread! your well on your way to building a track car for sure.

I'd love to see some pics of the car with Extreme weight reduction

 

[Gooberlog]

Thanks for the props. The car spends most of it's time on the track but i still drive it on the street here and there. Right now it's really driveable and i would like to keep it a street/strip car with final goals of running high tens on race gas/methanol and mid- low 11's on pump gas via a HX-35 turbo and some more weight mods. I have a few steps before i get there, but like i said, those are my final goals for the car.

 

[SBstar]

Wow, I am running just a step behind you. I too missed that 3-4 shift and caused problems. My problem is oil running out everywhere, not sure what exactly happened yet, hopefully tearing into it tonight and tomorrow. If your 1/8th of 8.21 estimates to 12.85 in the 1/4, my 8.23 didn't have me far off that pace! Good to know she probably had a 13.0 or so in her even at low boost. Now I have to clean it up and see what happens next year, we both should be well into the 12's.

Are you going to be able to get out again this year?

 

[Gooberlog]

Yeah i'm racing this weeked at the dsmlink test and tune day at Mason Dixon dragway in hagerstown, MD

 

[SBstar]

Have you set any goals? I'd love to see you deep in the 12's. Giving me something to shoot for when I get the car back out!

 

[Phil1320]

Yeah i'm racing this weeked at the dsmlink test and tune day at Mason Dixon dragway in hagerstown, MD

Good luck man!

 

[Gooberlog]

So i took the car for a lap around the neighborhood today to see if it would start. Everything seemed ok for the most part. The throw out bearing noise was actually a little quieter since the last time i took the car out and went through the gears.
Today on the way back to the house i floored it while rolling in first and shifted around 7000 rpms in second and third and it went into the gears just fine but it seemed a bit notchy going in to second. I feel that a couple trips down the track and i'll be right where i started, with a trans that shifts but grinds going in to second. I also feel that i have to ease this trans in to first gear a lot more than the old one with out it grinding. If your at a dead stop you have to ease it in to first and it must be below 1500 rpms or it will grind.
It seems like after a while both transmissions will be in the same shape, but both good candidates for a rebuild/upgrade. I don't have the $ for that, which is why i installed a used trans in the first place.
Any suggestions?

 

[SBstar]

What fluid are you using in the trans?

 

[Gooberlog]

What fluid are you using in the trans?

The stuff that all of the trans shops have been raving about lately, they claim it's like gold...well it costs about the same : EVO MR 6speed gear oil.
With a discount from satan, it was $84 for about 4quarts comes in a metal can.

 

[SBstar]

I haven't heard a lot about it, haven't really been researching it lately either though. But it's not like you're using some crappy stuff off the shelf, so no real way to help there. DSM trannies can be a pain in the butt that's for sure, best bet is to see how far it'll take you and save up for a rebuild imho, obviously some people have used sycromesh/syncroshift and gotten a few more miles out of trans since it basically "band-aids" the problem for a little while. But I think most of the reputable trans builders are now highly against using it.

 

[Gooberlog]

I haven't heard a lot about it, haven't really been researching it lately either though. But it's not like you're using some crappy stuff off the shelf, so no real way to help there. DSM trannies can be a pain in the butt that's for sure, best bet is to see how far it'll take you and save up for a rebuild imho, obviously some people have used sycromesh/syncroshift and gotten a few more miles out of trans since it basically "band-aids" the problem for a little while. But I think most of the reputable trans builders are now highly against using it.

i know what you mean. Back in the day "'2002 ish" syncroshift was the stuff, now i keep seeing trans shops saying that they don't recomend it.

 

[Phil1320]

I have used BG synchroshift for as long as I can remember....

Not the II synthetic....the standard BG synchroshift......

Screw the tranny shops......