First DSM...

[thinkfaster]

I recently acquired a 92 GSX with 89k original miles on it with light hail damage and 4 bent exhaust valves...got a super deal on it so i couldnt pass it up...it has some ADR 17" wheels, lowering springs of some sort, short shifter, COP, Greddy type S BOV, hard turbo piping, and full 3" exhaust...everything else to my knowledge is stock...i have a new timing belt kit, valve seals, a head gasket set, and new stock head bolts to go back on when i get the head removed and sent to the machine shop to be checked out and repaired...ive been tearing into it over the past few days and all i have left to do is get the head un-stuck from the block, remove the intake from the head and send it to the machine shop...anything else i should replace or inspect while im already this far into the motor? Thanks -Alex

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

Check the cylinder walls for any abvious signs of wear like scoreing and markings that could indicate briken rings. With that kind of mileage you shouldnt have to worry too much about it, but as ling as you are balls-deep in the engine you might as well check and make sure.

 

[AK Maniak]

pics or it didn't happen

 

[thinkfaster]

pics or what didnt happen???

 

[97-gst]

Lmfao

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

You know you've got a noob if they dont know what that means. Nothing wrong with that though, we all have to start somewhere.

 

[thinkfaster]

geez!...tough crowd round here...and i even admitted it was my first DSM......

 

[FLASH1970]

AK Maniac is joking around with you. He means get some pics of the car up or he doesn't believe that you bought it. You might get "This thread is worthless without pics" also. Welcome to the site. Use the search function, use the "TECH" article idex in the upper left hand corner of the screen, then ask any questions that you still have.

 

[thinkfaster]

THANK YOU! My true love is my 1993 Cobra. I am on a few mustang forums including 100mphlclub.com(local car club i'm in) and we have a nice lil emoticon we throw up for our newbs who dont post pics... >>> http://100mphclub.com/community/images/smiles/nopics.gif

here ya go...be nice....

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[SHaman]

Which one is faster thinkfaster?

 

[thinkfaster]

The cobra...because my eclipse has bent valves......the cobra just has a few bolt on and runs 13.44@102 on 26" E/T streets...ill post a pic and mod list l8r....

 

[SHaman]

Do you want the DSM to be faster than the cobra? What are your plans for it?

 

[MidShipCivic]

With sticky tires that's not a very fast cobra.

Sell the COP to someone with a show car. It isn't a true coil per cylinder system the ECU still fires 2 cylinders at once and the spark energy is halfed.

 

[streetillEagle]

Very clean Talon and looks unmolested. Don't put stock bolts back in. ARP studs are cheap and easy. What gasket you going with? Maybe the ecu chip is programmed to run cop it's just a matter of looking at the ecu and seeing eprom on it or not and checking if the wires are to it are hacked to death.
Poor valves

 

[MidShipCivic]

Maybe the ecu chip is programmed to run cop it's just a matter of looking at the ecu and seeing eprom on it or not and checking if the wires are to it are hacked to death.
Poor valves

No.

Do you understand how ignition systems are based only when one has 4 coil drivers you can do coil per cylinder systems on 4 cylinders the stock wasted spark is better when coils are shared with dual outputs so coil energy isn't cut down.

 

[Tanro]

+1 to the selling the COP setup for a little bit of extra mod money.

COP Is really nice to look at but its really wasted money when your goal is going fast.

If you have the head off and the timeing stuff removed now might be a good time to replace your oil and water pump. You should definelty check the oil pump nut that likes to sometimes come loose.

Do a search for OIL PUMP and 80,000 Miles. I forget exactly where the thread is but you should check that if you have over 80k.

and street, the ignition system in the DSM will not support coil per cylinder. Simply that, the coil on plug setups out there are more for appearance than functionality.

 

[thinkfaster]

that is respectable for a mild bolt on 1993 Cobra sir.....and i have some pics to post up from the teardown and some questions about some of the spare parts i have...im uploading them now...

 

[MidShipCivic]

that is respectable for a mild bolt on 1993 Cobra sir.....and i have some pics to post up from the teardown and some questions about some of the spare parts i have...im uploading them now...

Not to me, I was hoping you didn't have a mod list for it.

I can do that in a stock 92 talon with no money .

 

[thinkfaster]

The head in this pic is the one that came off the car....the intake was in the parts box that came with the car..

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The intake in this pic was the one that came off the car...and the head came in the parts box...

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Head that came off the car:

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Head in the parts box:

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Turbo that is on the car:

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#'s on plaque riveted to the turbo:
RG 0327J
MR187910
466491GB

Please help me identify all these parts and let me know what im lookin at and what u would do as far as what to put back on the car...because the current setup seems pointless to me...

and take it somewhere else if your just gonna bust my chops dude...not what i started this thread for...

 

[fatalreaction]

i was gonna say somethin similar to that thinkfaster but u got it handled, Unfortunately as far as id'in the parts... not much help from me here

 

[MidShipCivic]

and take it somewhere else if your just gonna bust my chops dude...not what i started this thread for...

If you haven't notice I've already gave you input on that DSM.

Busting your chops? Man up, you expect me to swing off your nuts? Really the time from that car isn't all that. Take it as a grain of salt & not like a cry baby.

That compressor housing has Garrett markings on it probably some hybrid turbo using a TD05 mitsubishi turbine wheel.

 

[thinkfaster]

hotside has GARRETT cast in it...and ill take it however i want...i didnt say it was all that nor did i ask you what u thought of it or how fast you you could get a stock talon to go...i dont need any more of your input on this thread...thanks.

 

[streetillEagle]

and street, the ignition system in the DSM will not support coil per cylinder. Simply that, the coil on plug setups out there are more for appearance than functionality.[/QUOTE]

thanks I was basically asking if the ecu was socket-ed and programmed? How was this car tuned, if at all?

 

[MidShipCivic]

hotside has GARRETT cast in it...and ill take it however i want...i didnt say it was all that nor did i ask you what u thought of it or how fast you you could get a stock talon to go...i dont need any more of your input on this thread...thanks.

Ah how incoherent you are, get over it since obviously it bothers you.

You have no control what I say in this topic if you want help change your attitude, further more also read rule #5 in your post window grammar and punctuation are in bold.


That turbo is just a stock T25 from a 2g DSM.

Also, you want members to help you identify parts, but you came to the conclusion they are pointless and what you should put back on the car?


WHAT IS YOUR GOAL?

There is a 2g head with manifold and 1g head/w intake manifold in the other shot(that you removed from the car). Also, there is info covering 90% of your questions on this website.

 

[thinkfaster]

My goal is to get the car running. Not really gonna build it, I just want it to be a strong enough to handle a little abuse now and again. I think its pointless to run a head with small intake ports and an intake with large ones. Also the lobes on the cams in the 1g head measured ~30 thousandths larger than the cams in the 2g head. Is this just how they are or are they aftermarket?

i doubt the car was ever tuned...but i dont honestly know...

Another couple questions:

Are 1g and 2g stock coilpacks the same? If not, how so?

What does the turbo oil feed line connection look like on the head? is it a banjo fitting? because all i have is a hollow threaded bolt (looks like a twisted off banjo fiting) sticking out of the head about 1/4 inch with the feed line (barely) hoseclamped onto it...