Ebay Air Intake Problems!?!?

[Bluedragondsm]

Installed air intake today, took it out driving and it felt slower somehow, this is coming from the factory piping and airbox to the pictures below. All couplers are tight, triple checked. Valve cover has a large crack in it that I discovered after testing intake, would this affect it?

that coupler to the turbo seems a little big, maybe this is the issue? As you can see all vacuum lines are hooked up properly. The car also feels a little sluggish and sounds boggy when I go WOT at 2500 RPM in 3rd but if I ease into it it feels like it comes on a lot stronger this could just be my imagination though.

Not really sure what to think, about to go back to stock airbox and order a K&N FIPK.

*edit* Could this just all be in my head because I can hear the turbo spooling sooner? before I could hear it at full boost around 3700 rpm but now I can hear it coming on fairly early, could this be contributing to me just "thinking" its slower when actually its the same speed just fooling me with sound?

I also feel like I put that on wrong, turbo to intake wise, I feel like I am going to damage the turbo or something by putting that aluminum right up there, am I just being paranoid? that coupler seems like garbage, will it work?

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[highlandgst]

the crack might effect it secondly the actual air filter connector when it shinks then widens makesm e wonder if its a strange airflow . Secondly the coupler on the intake pipe to the turbo TAKE IT OFF . you need to order a REDUCER to fit if the intake pipe tip is bigger than the turbo inlet . if they are the same size you need a smaller coupler. I have never seen a coupler compressed so much


http://www.siliconeintakes.com/ theres a great site take off the intake pipe and measure the end and then the inlet

 

[Bluedragondsm]

Yea its compressed pretty intensely. Is it normal to have to replace that coupler on these?

ready to just order a dejon at this point.

 

[brian9397gsx]

i would tend to think the air filter adaptor may be causing your problem. it looks like its directing airflow to one side of your maf. i would try putting the factory air box in if it will fit then try driving it see if that changes it at all.

 

[Bluedragondsm]

I'm just gonna toss the god damn thing in a garbage compactor and chalk it up a lesson learned

 

[DSM_PWR]

Its pretty difficult to mess up an air intake install

im willing to bet that lower coupler is leaking air... get a reducer as stated above

I bought that same ebay intake years ago and had no problems once i got the reducer...

 

[Bluedragondsm]

Its pretty difficult to mess up an air intake install

im willing to bet that lower coupler is leaking air... get a reducer as stated above

I bought that same ebay intake years ago and had no problems once i got the reducer...

Would that cause a problem in power? Shouldn't the turbo be getting its air regardless?

Also what size is the stock t-25

 

[knochgoon24]

I ran that exact same intake with no problems what so ever. The couplers will get hard over time since they are low quality.

Here's my review of it.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/art...24-crome-intakes-2g-intake-w-filter-ebay.html

 

[Bluedragondsm]

I ran that exact same intake with no problems what so ever. The couplers will get hard over time since they are low quality.

Here's my review of it.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/art...24-crome-intakes-2g-intake-w-filter-ebay.html

I appreciate the review link, I am having problems though so

 

[knochgoon24]

Your car may actually be slower because it's now sucking hot air in from the engine bay instead of colder air in through the fender.

 

[Bluedragondsm]

You car may actually be slower because it's now sucking hot air in from the engine bay instead of colder air in through the fender. That's my thoughts on your problem.

Assuming this is the case, what the hell is the point in removing the stock airbox?

 

[MJBean420]

Order a new reducer coupler. check the connection between the filter adaptor and maf. I had to file down my adaptor to make it a flush fit. The couplers usually sold with ebay stuff are usually junk and are the wrong size. I dont think I ever got the right size couplers with anything I got off ebay. Dont junk it, its just a pipe which is considered an intake. Its not rocket science, just simple physics. Start with getting the right coupler first.

 

[Bluedragondsm]

Order a new reducer coupler. check the connection between the filter adaptor and maf. I had to file down my adaptor to make it a flush fit. The couplers usually sold with ebay stuff are usually junk and are the wrong size. I dont think I ever got the right size couplers with anything I got off ebay. Dont junk it, its just a pipe which is considered an intake. Its not rocket science, just simple physics. Start with getting the right coupler first.

I think I am going to junk it for something that comes fitting, the connection between the MAF and the filter thing seemed flush but it probably isn't plus buying a new coupler.

I am not sure I like how the filter is barely fitting and pushed up against the fender either

I dunno pretty aggravated already could have spent the extra 50$ and had it fit.

 

[wranglerunner22]

Order a new reducer coupler. check the connection between the filter adaptor and maf. I had to file down my adaptor to make it a flush fit. The couplers usually sold with ebay stuff are usually junk and are the wrong size. I dont think I ever got the right size couplers with anything I got off ebay. Dont junk it, its just a pipe which is considered an intake. Its not rocket science, just simple physics. Start with getting the right coupler first.

Yes, get the right coupler.

 

[Bluedragondsm]

So my options are

1) new coupler, but the intake still fits like shit. If you look its rubbing up against the fender which doesn't seem ideal

2) Dejon pipe and K&N filter DEJON | Powerhouse Will need a new coupler

3) injen intake Injen Intake (95-99 Turbo) with whatever filter it comes with

4) Forced performance intake Forced Performance Turbochargers: FP DSM Aluminum Intake pipe with the 4 - 2.25 coupler and a K&N filter

 

[dsmdeliveryboy]

FP intake enough said.
It is what I'm running, best intake for the 2G MAS IMO.

 

[Guillermo]

Well, I see that you have the stock bov on, maybe you have a leak the stock bov usually leaks and maybe that is why you feel that the car is slower than before.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

FP intake enough said.
It is what I'm running, best intake for the 2G MAS IMO.

Assuming his turbo is the T-25 or even a 16g that might be the worst intake selection he could make.

To the OP, don't junk your intake - that's foolish. There is nothing wrong with it. It's just a hunk of metal, not significantly different than what rre, dejon or others would sell you.

What you have is a an Injen knockoff that is pretty much the same thing as the real deal only it didn't cost you over $200 and you got lame couplers/clamps with it. The downsides to this are sourcing new couplers/clamps if you need to. Additionally, as mentioned, that reducer/adapter plate for your filter isn't doing you any favors. You might consider getting an FIPK to better suit your needs.

Apparently, a member on here has recently called up K&N and received his FIPK adapter (read: designed far better) for free leaving him with an opportunity to purchase the FIPK filter on it's own for around $50. Sure beats paying $120 or so for the filter + adapter.

Anyways, there is likely nothing wrong with your car, at least not that your new intake is responsible for. Provided it's been installed correctly, of course. This isn't the kind of part that gives you a night and day difference while driving around town. Besides, I don't know of ANY awd DSMs that just take off like a bat out of hell at 2500rpm in 3rd.

Which brings to mind.. you reach full boost at 3700rpm? I think you might need to fill out your vehicle profile. That, or something else is very wrong.

EDIT: additionally, you may choose to reset your ECU to potentially re-learn the airflow characteristics of your somewhat altered intake tract. Some swear by it, some don't.

 

[98GSXtacy]

+1. If you are running more than stock boost you are probably losing alot from the stock bov. Mine started cracking and leaking just going from 12.5 to 14psi when I bought my gsx a few years ago. And I have the Dejon intake, great part and fit, but if you have the extra money I would say the FP. It is big enough that it would be the last intake you ever need instead of having to buy a bigger one if you get a large turbo down the road.

 

[dsmdeliveryboy]

I am running the K&N FIPK with it

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[RedTurboEclipse]

there is nothing wrong with our intake.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/art...lter-review-install.html?highlight=injen+ebay

just get proper coupler.

i have the dejon one on one of my dsms, then MY review above is with the ebay. no complaints, ran it with the t25 and the big 16g.of course it was common sense to me not to use the oversized coupler that connects to the compressor housing.

 

[Bluedragondsm]

Assuming his turbo is the T-25 or even a 16g that might be the worst intake selection he could make.

To the OP, don't junk your intake - that's foolish. There is nothing wrong with it. It's just a hunk of metal, not significantly different than what rre, dejon or others would sell you.

What you have is a an Injen knockoff that is pretty much the same thing as the real deal only it didn't cost you over $200 and you got lame couplers/clamps with it. The downsides to this are sourcing new couplers/clamps if you need to. Additionally, as mentioned, that reducer/adapter plate for your filter isn't doing you any favors. You might consider getting an FIPK to better suit your needs.

Apparently, a member on here has recently called up K&N and received his FIPK adapter (read: designed far better) for free leaving him with an opportunity to purchase the FIPK filter on it's own for around $50. Sure beats paying $120 or so for the filter + adapter.

Anyways, there is likely nothing wrong with your car, at least not that your new intake is responsible for. Provided it's been installed correctly, of course. This isn't the kind of part that gives you a night and day difference while driving around town. Besides, I don't know of ANY awd DSMs that just take off like a bat out of hell at 2500rpm in 3rd.

Which brings to mind.. you reach full boost at 3700rpm? I think you might need to fill out your vehicle profile. That, or something else is very wrong.

EDIT: additionally, you may choose to reset your ECU to potentially re-learn the airflow characteristics of your somewhat altered intake tract. Some swear by it, some don't.

Well I am ordering the FIPK for sure, that I know.

At this point I am more concerned with the placement of the MAS with this intake, it pushes it really far up into the fender and close to the fuse box. if there's an intake that makes this shorter i.e close to the stock MAS location I would rather go with that

Does anyone know of one? are all these intakes going to push it this far out?

FP isn't an option because of the lack of vacuum hose ports, and I have no desire to make and tap my own.

*edit* looks like dejon tools is my best option for a shorter intake. Hmm.

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Quick question, with the dejon the size is CIP-2gS- 2.7" & 3" - $160 (with BOV tube only). Will this be good enough for most turbo's? the biggest I think I plan to go is a EVO III 16g.

Also there are these 2 options

CIP-2gS- 2.7" & 3" - $160 (with BOV tube only)
CIP-2gSx- 2.7" & 3" - $140 (NO tubes)

Do I want tubes or no tubes? I still have stock BOV tube that you can see in the picture.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

It's true the Injen and it's relatives are too long for ideal fitment of the FIPK. I took a hacksaw to my intake pipe on both ends making sure I had just enough material left to properly connect the couplers. This netted me enough room to use the included stand/support bracket from the FIPK package and it doesn't rub my RRE uicp either, although I do squish a small piece of foam between the filter and the uicp for peace of mind.
I wasn't afraid to modify my intake pipe at all, you can't even tell I did it.

 

[Bluedragondsm]

It's true the Injen and it's relatives are too long for ideal fitment of the FIPK. I took a hacksaw to my intake pipe on both ends making sure I had just enough material left to properly connect the couplers. This netted me enough room to use the included stand/support bracket from the FIPK package and it doesn't rub my RRE uicp either, although I do squish a small piece of foam between the filter and the uicp for peace of mind.
I wasn't afraid to modify my intake pipe at all, you can't even tell I did it.

Yea, I figured it might be a little long. I am ordering some IC piping for the stock SMIC from dejon anyway soon to flange for a 1g BOV so I am just going to grab the intake from them at the same time since it *appears* to put the MAS in a more reasonable location.

At this point I can also either grab the FIPK or get the "2g/3g/EVO Mas Adapter & K&N Cone Filter fits CIP-1gR & CIP-1gS - $69" which looks like it might fit a little better.

Although the FIPK will probably fit much smoother/more flush and end up being the smarter decision

Here is the filter for 69$

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This looks a lot like the filter in the picture above which shows very roomy fitment which is exactly what I am looking for. However, the picture below appears to use the FIPK and still have a nice fitment.

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[Dert]

The airfilter that comes with the intake is garbadge IMO, the inlet diameter is way to small and restrictive. I picked up an apexi filter with adaptor and it's diameter is almost double the size of the one that comes with the intake. There's no point of having the better breathing intake pipe if the filter opening is more restrictive than the stock one...