ECMlink dyno pulls with logs inside

[LTUDSM]

Yesterday,i went to do a dyno pulls and i was a bit disappointed of the power my car made, First pull i made 237 whp (wtf???!!!) car i capable to run over 400 whp. So after some adjustments i reached 378whp,and that was the most i could get out of many pulls. here are two logs: Any suggestions?????
first 237 whp
second 378whp

 

[kthackst]

What kind of dyno was it?

Yeah an extra 6 lbs/min of air plus 12* more timing will make alot more power.

 

[LTUDSM]

What kind of dyno was it?

Yeah an extra 6 lbs/min of air plus 12* more timing will make alot more power.

DynoJet With meth injection...

 

[bastarddsm]

Give it more boost.

 

[BrokenTsi]

No knock, good AFR's....turn up the boost! what turbo is on there again?

 

[LTUDSM]

im not sure,but its aether 16g or FP Red DDDD Neaaah was a joke .... I got Fp Red one But im looking at the logs now and i see ,that im breaking up at the very top of rpms ( 6800 to 7200) loking at the second log.

 

[red1993gsallmt]

Dsmlink hp est looks spot on to me, they did a good job

 

[kthackst]

Well if that is a fp red you should be able see more air flow than that. My 16g and meth I use similar timing and i push 42-43 lbs/min of air at 22-24 psi. What boost level do you have it set at? Sounds like it wants more.

 

[LTUDSM]

Well if that is a fp red you should be able see more air flow than that. My 16g and meth I use similar timing and i push 42-43 lbs/min of air at 22-24 psi. What boost level do you have it set at? Sounds like it wants more.

26psi,but i got a really one part, that is a huge downgrade to my setup- 2g tb . i guess its really not floating SMIM,2.5 ic pipes,Fp Red,272's cams......

 

[LTUDSM]

Dsmlink hp est looks spot on to me, they did a good job

i tuned myself,the guy was just making the pulls and i was the one who was tuning

 

[kthackst]

26psi

That turbo is deserving of being 30+psi. It should be able to produce lbs/min in the upper 50s. That will get you into the 400s.

Good job BTW. It sounds like more fun is to come.

 

[Killa_dsm]

I would play around with less timing and more boost to see how the car feels.

 

[LTUDSM]

but does the stock 2g tb is really a downgrade of my setup???

 

[red1993gsallmt]

but does the stock 2g tb is really a downgrade of my setup???

Its not keeping you from 450whp, seen a couple cars make 450 plus whp on an fp red and a stock 2g elbow and stock 1g intake mani. Sorry, never tuned a 2g with a 2g tb

 

[flyineagletsi]

You say its breaking up but your only getting .4 Knock? Sounds like an ignition issue if it truly is breaking up (which I think your HP & Torque estimates are kinda confirming). Maybe run a tighter plug gap.
Did you log a wideband? If so what did you log it as so we can view AFR's.

 

[Killa_dsm]

Did you log a wideband? If so what did you log it as so we can view AFR's.

Its under AFXWB.

 

[BrokenTsi]

If you look at the log, all you have to do is display the sensors he has logged....AFXWB, OMNI3bar (for boost).

 

[flyineagletsi]

I realized that after I posted. Sorry.

 

[LTUDSM]

You say its breaking up but your only getting .4 Knock? Sounds like an ignition issue if it truly is breaking up (which I think your HP & Torque estimates are kinda confirming). Maybe run a tighter plug gap.
Did you log a wideband? If so what did you log it as so we can view AFR's.

Im running BPR7ES gapped to .20, i think ,that my coilpack on its way out or i need to switch to BP8ES.....

My HP graph according dynojet wasn't really smooth, because of the sputtering at high rpm's...

 

[flyineagletsi]

Im running BPR7ES gapped to .20, i think ,that my coilpack on its way out or i need to switch to BP8ES.....

My HP graph according dynojet wasn't really smooth, because of the sputtering at high rpm's...

Yeah that's what I meant by the HP/Torque curves suggesting the sputter/miss.

I'm guessing from your global that this was on pump? If so, then I think your right at the edge of the AFR limit. Reason I was asking is because E85 likes a little bit hotter plug to power level to fire right. BP8ES's should be a little more knock resistant than the protruding diode plugs but your not knocking. I still think it might be spark blow out. Even if its not blow out its cheap to check it either way.

 

[LTUDSM]

Yeah that's what I meant by the HP/Torque curves suggesting the sputter/miss.

I'm guessing from your global that this was on pump? If so, then I think your right at the edge of the AFR limit. Reason I was asking is because E85 likes a little bit hotter plug to power level to fire right. BP8ES's should be a little more knock resistant than the protruding diode plugs but your not knocking. I still think it might be spark blow out. Even if its not blow out its cheap to check it either way.

Blowout even with .20gap???? hm.... And yeah it was on pump with 50/50 meth water injection

 

[flyineagletsi]

Well I think you chose your heat range right for your power goals, but maybe not for what your currently putting down.

1). Gap them a little tighter to check blowout. If none, go to #2
2). Pull your plugs and look for fouling. If the plug is too cold for that power level they should foul a little bit.
3). If number 2 is the answer then drop your timing, and turn up the boost like previously suggested and make some more power but not until you check #1

Of course there is the possibility that I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about, but its free so why not?

 

[LTUDSM]

Well I think you chose your heat range right for your power goals, but maybe not for what your currently putting down.

1). Gap them a little tighter to check blowout. If none, go to #2
2). Pull your plugs and look for fouling. If the plug is too cold for that power level they should foul a little bit.
3). If number 2 is the answer then drop your timing, and turn up the boost like previously suggested and make some more power but not until you check #1

Of course there is the possibility that I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about, but its free so why not?

Was a bit better with .18 gap . Took the spark plugs out and I got black color around the electrode and the tips were grey/white

 

[flyineagletsi]

Black color as in buildup or black color as in how they looked when new? How is the the threaded ring around them? Any dimples or buildup? Pictures would be easier to diagnose but it sounds normal from your description. If a tighter gap helped, you might just replace your coil packs and some new wires if those are old. Some people suggest COP but really that shouldn't be needed for your goals or power level. A coil amplifier would be nice but also shouldn't be needed. It would just allow you to open your gap a little wider and still get a good spark which may help make more power with increased boost. Of course an amplifier wouldn't be fixing the issue if your coils were weak it would just cover up the problem.

EDIT: I'm not sure why your targeting 12.5:1 AFR from 5500-6500 on pump gas. Do a BLT to 30+ psi on the setup and lower those values which should get you closer to your target. Also zero out your fuel sliders when tuning DA tables unless you need a quick adjustment. It just confuses the situation when tuning both. Plus, the ECU targets your DA tables, but doesn't always run your suggested values in the sliders.

Also, your MinOctane and MinTmg table values are higher than your MaxOct and MaxTmg. Any reason for that?

 

[LTUDSM]

Black color as in buildup or black color as in how they looked when new? How is the the threaded ring around them? Any dimples or buildup? Pictures would be easier to diagnose but it sounds normal from your description. If a tighter gap helped, you might just replace your coil packs and some new wires if those are old. Some people suggest COP but really that shouldn't be needed for your goals or power level. A coil amplifier would be nice but also shouldn't be needed. It would just allow you to open your gap a little wider and still get a good spark which may help make more power with increased boost. Of course an amplifier wouldn't be fixing the issue if your coils were weak it would just cover up the problem.

EDIT: I'm not sure why your targeting 12.5:1 AFR from 5500-6500 on pump gas. Do a BLT to 30+ psi on the setup and lower those values which should get you closer to your target. Also zero out your fuel sliders when tuning DA tables unless you need a quick adjustment. It just confuses the situation when tuning both. Plus, the ECU targets your DA tables, but doesn't always run your suggested values in the sliders.

Also, your MinOctane and MinTmg table values are higher than your MaxOct and MaxTmg. Any reason for that?

Well im looking at my plugs now and the inside and the outside of electrode has black buildup,The threads of the sparkplug looks clean, the tip is brownish/grey.I got a spare coilpack ,so ill see if that one will make a difference. Talking about AFR and DA table,Im using two maps
one for pump gas (93octane) another one is with methanol injection. So MaxOct and MaxTmg im using with pump gas,and MinOct and MinTmg im using with methanol. And 12.5 afr Are a target of the Methanol. Pump gas i got tuned on the street with 11:3:1 AFR.