drinking its over flow Bottle worth of anti freeze

[ccb21]

Well I've looked a little bit into this intresting well Minor issue. So I have a Almost bone stock 95 RS N/T ... it has the 420A in it and well the Fans on the radiator are not spinning. Minor issue there, but for some reason the car seems to be drinking its over flow Bottle worth of anti freeze every 10-15 days... No leaks anywere I can see, No white smoke, No head gasket issues at all.. 154 Across the bored... only up grades are Cold Air and Headers... any ideas?

thanks

 

[All_Boost16G]

I would recommend getting a pressure tester from your local autoparts store, and pressurizing the system, it might be leaking when it gets warm and the system presurizes, and you just don't ever see it. I had this happen were when it was cold it would barely leak, but it would stop when it wam, so you never honestly saw it. But with a pressure tester it will appear.

 

[ccb21]

Alright thanks I try that

 

[ccb21]

I would recommend getting a pressure tester from your local autoparts store, and pressurizing the system, it might be leaking when it gets warm and the system presurizes, and you just don't ever see it. I had this happen were when it was cold it would barely leak, but it would stop when it wam, so you never honestly saw it. But with a pressure tester it will appear.

So found no leaks at all. Did notice how ever that when we were to fill it up with water insted of the anti freeze it would evaporate, would this be because of the Fans not spinning and basicly the water turing into nothing? right now we have it full with a 50/50 mix and are going to see if it goes down at all...

 

[centralboost90]

it could be the thermostat. running hotter and just evaperating out the overflow. my car is doing it as we speak. does it have a/c? if so turn it on (wheather it works or not) and see if the fans turn on, if not then it sounds like there is an electrical problem.

 

[ccb21]

haha, the AC dont work the belt is snaped into a few peaces and a tester at workt told me the conectors on the Fans are crap, got some new 1's coming I hope it solves this issue. Just found out the thermosat in the car was replaced and there is a OEM 1 on it, I wonder if it was installed right, sigh* time to take it off and replace it or check it out!

 

[tkelly27]

Is there an oily film on your windsheild? The heater core can leak and this will leave that residue. Mine does at least

 

[delta448]

Try this, idle the engine for a few minutes and then turn on the heater full blast. When the heater gets hot, turn it off and see if the radiator fans kick on. Watch the fluid level in the overflow bottle, does it rise or bubble at all as the engine starts getting hot? If the fans don't spin after a couple of minutes, then shut the engine down and see if it sucks some fluid back as it cools. If it does, I'd start by checking your fan wiring, the thermostat and probably would replace the coolant temp sensor. If that doesn't help, you probably have a system leak too.

 

[illeffekt vr-4]

Headgasket.

 

[ccb21]

Headgasket.

Negtive, No warning signes of a head gasket bro. No milk shake oil, No white smoke, trust me I'd see that coming off the header seeing how it has no exauhst at the min, Heat works great at full blast so oh and 154 Comp across all cylenders...

as and update the Fans dont spin period... Like at all, the kid I bought it from just told me he replaced the thermosat... He proably screwed it up so I have ordered a new 1 along with a sensor, hope it works.

But no offence no head gasket issues here... just think like I said before, its a bit funky and its something silly I haven;t figured out yet

 

[illeffekt vr-4]

Negtive, No warning signes of a head gasket bro. No milk shake oil, No white smoke, trust me I'd see that coming off the header seeing how it has no exauhst at the min, Heat works great at full blast so oh and 154 Comp across all cylenders...

as and update the Fans dont spin period... Like at all, the kid I bought it from just told me he replaced the thermosat... He proably screwed it up so I have ordered a new 1 along with a sensor, hope it works.

But no offence no head gasket issues here... just think like I said before, its a bit funky and its something silly I haven;t figured out yet

My car had the same problem. No milk shake, no smoke of any kind, no oil in coolant, no coolant in oil, decent compression for the miles it had. It would push coolant into the overflow whenever it went into boost. If driving it normal coolant would disappear from the overflow. When I took the motor apart the headgasket was toast between cyl 3-4 and the machine shop said the deck of the block was warped (probably due to overheating) which I didn't notice.

 

[ccb21]

the Deck of my block is mildly warm, then again im a 420A motor N/T haha... But if it is a head gasket oh well, I drive it! Only got to make it to the trailor and then off the trailor to the school haha!

 

[delta448]

Read these two posts from a thread about a 420a with similar issues.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/151644129-post10.html
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/151656225-post15.html

 

[ccb21]

Hey thanks for the reads, I'm not using a stock temp gage, the 1 in my dash never worked when I bought the car, I have an after market Pillar, I did noticed today how ever that I filled it up last week and the liuid is down to the same spot. I pulled out the bottle and behold it was slightly cracked ... So ya all of this problem for a cracked Bottle... What a ...... I am

thanks for all the help tho guys!

 

[ccb21]

ummmm, !!!!!!!!!!! DEE DEE DEE!!!!!!

Ya I kno right! it was along the seem just below the Low line, looks like someone tryed to super glue it once or twice ah well, I got a parts eclipse outback, time go get it replaced

 

[Myndvast]

Ok fellow DSM'ers I have a problem that has come up with my coolant that I am sure someone has had to deal with before (because I cannot be the only one.) The problem is my coolant bottle is leaking .... I think. I filled up on coolant (50/50 mix) last week and now the coolant is way below the low mark. For months I thought I had simply an oil leak ... fixed that; but now since I have that taken care of I find that I am losing coolant (green only on the paper towel.) When I searched the lines, I don't get a thing in terms of leftover leak residue, so I believe I am good there, but the coolant is still leaving pretty regularly. I don't run the AC or Heat normally because its not quite cold or hot enough for that so I can really say that I am not consuming it due to those factors.

So here's what I found. I slipped the coolant bottle off and turned it over and saw residue coolant on the bottom side around the coolant level sensor. So I wonder, could it be that the rubber seal on the sensor has deteriorated from the coolant over a period of time? I will check it again for a crack in the reservoir (such as what I read in this thread.) If its not that, where can I get a new coolant level sensor because I'm finding that regular auto parts stores don't carry or even list it. Has anybody ever had this issue? Any ideas would be helpful.

 

[Anubis_4_99]

Ok fellow DSM'ers I have a problem that has come up with my coolant that I am sure someone has had to deal with before (because I cannot be the only one.) The problem is my coolant bottle is leaking .... I think. I filled up on coolant (50/50 mix) last week and now the coolant is way below the low mark. For months I thought I had simply an oil leak ... fixed that; but now since I have that taken care of I find that I am losing coolant (green only on the paper towel.) When I searched the lines, I don't get a thing in terms of leftover leak residue, so I believe I am good there, but the coolant is still leaving pretty regularly. I don't run the AC or Heat normally because its not quite cold or hot enough for that so I can really say that I am not consuming it due to those factors.

So here's what I found. I slipped the coolant bottle off and turned it over and saw residue coolant on the bottom side around the coolant level sensor. So I wonder, could it be that the rubber seal on the sensor has deteriorated from the coolant over a period of time? I will check it again for a crack in the reservoir (such as what I read in this thread.) If its not that, where can I get a new coolant level sensor because I'm finding that regular auto parts stores don't carry or even list it. Has anybody ever had this issue? Any ideas would be helpful.

Make your own thread instead of bringing a nearly 4 year old thread back from the dead.

 

[Myndvast]

I tried that, but couldn't seem to find the link to do so. I'll try again, but do you have anything to add in terms of my coolant issue, or did you only want to fire off? Can we try to be helpful on the content of the post please? We're DSM'ers , and we can be helpful.

 

[Anubis_4_99]

As far as i know, there is no coolant level sensor, and seeing as i drive essentially the same car as you (96 eclipse N/T) unless it was a 95 only thing or a talon only thing or something, you must be thinking of something else.

Are you talking about the radiator? Or the plastic overflow next to the timing belt area? Look for leaks around your heater core lines, and any other lines that supply coolant elsewhere, it sounds like you just have a small leak somewhere.

Here is the "link" to make a new thread. You will have infinitely more luck getting help with your problem by creating your own thread. I was trying to point you in the right direction and getting more and better help with your problem instead of posting in a 3 year old thread that everyone is going to ignore.

 

[Myndvast]

Thanks Anubis. I did some checking and found that yes there really is a 95 version of the coolant reservoir bottle which contains a coolant level sensor. I ended up finding a drawing of it on the internet, and then called Mitsubishi to confirm it. I now have a new coolant reservoir assembly on order from Mitsubishi. I did have to call Chrysler to get the correct part number so Mitsiubishi could match it. I will put it in early next week when it arrives.

For all those having the same coolant leak issue, here is a diagram of the coolant reservoir assembly for the 95 NT Talon and Eclipse.

#7 on the diagram is the coolant reservoir level sensor. According to the dealer, if your 95 was produced in the first half of 1995, then your car was equipped with a coolant bottle assembly such as the one shown above. However, if your car was manufactured after that point and is a 2nd Generation, then it has a different assembly that does not have the coolant level check sensor. In plain terms: there is no sensor in the bottle for cars produced after June of 95'.

For all those with this issue that could use more than the diagram to determine if this really is what may be leaking in their car I placed photos below of what mine looked like. The photo shows the bottom of the coolant reservoir. When I slid it off the bracket, the level sensor was almost disconnected from the bottle as shown. As you can see, there is coolant streaming along the bottom of the reservoir.

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The only thing holding it in place was the chassis support underneath. As you can see, the glue around its base has deteriorated from coolant leaking over the years and been worn down from movement as well. I found this by tracing the coolant drip all the way back to the bottle itself and then removing and inspecting the entire assembly. Important: you can't see the leak from the top while it's connected.

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Then I found that the sensor was in bad shape anyway and that the rubber seal around the hole was coming loose and bingo, there was the leak.