Cop cited me for stock WINDOW TINT??!

[stockmkt8r]

Hey DSM guys,

I got a nasty cop last night pulling me over and cited me for my window tint!! It's to my knowledge that the windows were tinted like that from the factory. I have a 97 GS-T with the rear windows tinted, the passenger, and the driver's side windows tinted. I really believe that they were like that from teh factory. Can anyone shed some light as to whether or not this is legal?

ALSO, the cop cited me for the stock GS-T high-wing rear spoiler!! What the (&**( is that? Does anyone know if the factory turbo spoiler is legal or not? Mitsubishi wouldnt' screw us like this, would theY?

Please help guys, any input would be appreciated.

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, I just noticed that he screwed me for no seat belt! I HAD MY SEATBELT ON but I took it off when I pulled over. It's just a habitual thing that I didn't even notice. HE GAVE ME A TICKET FOR NO SEAT BELT! (#*@&$(*@#&$

I couldn't find a copy of my insurance, so he gave me a tckt for no insurance. Damnnnn, but I guess this will go away when i fax in my proof.

I guess my registration expired the day before (i was going to do everything on Monday) and he gave me a ticket for that too!

Lastly, and the only and most DESERVED ticket i got was for speeding. I got the 2-point version too.

Gee, so that makes 6 tickets in one night. Is that a record???????????

** My tint, it says on my window sticker, is included with the car on the standard options. Under exterior options, I have a "tinted glass/power antenna" for "NO CHARGE." There's a SEPERATE options category, so I KNOW it's definitely not something the dealer put on (or is it??).

The spoiler ticket is crap, but somehow, I gotta prove that it's legitimate. Hmmmm, how am i gonna do this. Wish me luck guys, I'm going to take care of this tomrorow. ANY SUGGESTIONS on how I fix these tickets (aside from the speeding one, that's probably not going to go away), I would really appreciate it. If anyone has proof that our rear spoilers are legal, that would be great.

Originally posted by Defiant
Just changed. 88%. The spoiler? What section were you cited for?
Make the court determine your tint with a densitometer.

I don't even understand the section I was cited for. To me, it doesn't even appear as though it's accurate!

It is California 26703(b) "tint on driver/pass side windows"
for the spoiler, it is California 26708 "veh equiped w/ rear extension obstrucks rear view"


Mannn, i can see just fine out of my rear window! Stock spoiler too. So frustrated.

 

[dsm]

hell yea man fight that shit. i live on the other side of the states, hope pigs dont get that stupid here.

 

[MNGSX]

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If you are in the right fight it. If you were driving stupid too (not saying you were) you were in the wrong for that.

I'm keeping all my emissions controls high flow cat and have a stock appearing muffler. I have access to shop emissions test equipment (sniffer) and will have adjusted base idle and cold start mixtures with it. So if they try the CA emmisions trick I'll just say ok anytime.

That's the good part about this country. Innocent until proven guilty. I can prove it actually runs cleaner than stock.

 

[igs]

Originally posted by stockmkt8r


I don't even understand the section I was cited for. To me, it doesn't even appear as though it's accurate!

It is California 26703(b) "tint on driver/pass side windows"
for the spoiler, it is California 26708 "veh equiped w/ rear extension obstrucks rear view"


Mannn, i can see just fine out of my rear window! Stock spoiler too. So frustrated.

26703. (a) No person shall replace any glazing materials used in interior partitions, doors, windows, or openings in the roof in any motor vehicle, in the outside windows, doors, interior partitions, or openings in the roof of any camper, or in windows, doors, interior partitions, or openings in the roof of a trailer coach capable of being towed with a fifth-wheel device, with any glazing material other than safety glazing material.

(b) No person shall replace any glazing material used in the windshield, rear window, auxiliary wind deflectors, or windows to the left and right of the driver with any material other than safety glazing material.




26708. (a) (1) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied upon the windshield or side or rear windows.

(2) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied in or upon the vehicle which obstructs or reduces the driver's clear view through the windshield or side windows.

(3) This subdivision applies to a person driving a motor vehicle with the driver's clear vision through the windshield, or side or rear windows, obstructed by snow or ice.

(b) This section does not apply to any of the following:

(1) Rearview mirrors.

(2) Adjustable nontransparent sunvisors which are mounted forward of the side windows and are not attached to the glass.

(3) Signs, stickers, or other materials which are displayed in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver, signs, stickers, or other materials which are displayed in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the rear window farthest removed from the driver, or signs, stickers, or other materials which are displayed in a 5-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield nearest the driver.

(4) Side windows which are to the rear of the driver.

(5) Direction, destination, or termini signs upon a passenger common carrier motor vehicle or a schoolbus, if those signs do not interfere with the driver's clear view of approaching traffic.

(6) Rear window wiper motor.

(7) Rear trunk lid handle or hinges.

(8) The rear window or windows, when the motor vehicle is equipped with outside mirrors on both the left- and right-hand sides of the vehicle that are so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway through each mirror for a distance of at least 200 feet to the rear of the vehicle.

(9) A clear, transparent lens affixed to the side window opposite the driver on a vehicle greater than 80 inches in width and which occupies an area not exceeding 50 square inches of the lowest corner toward the rear of that window and which provides the driver with a wide-angle view through the lens.

(10) Sun screening devices meeting the requirements of Section 26708.2 installed on the side windows on either side of the vehicle's front seat, if the driver or a passenger in the front seat has in his or her possession a letter or other document signed by a licensed physician and surgeon certifying that the person must be shaded from the sun due to a medical condition, or has in his or her possession a letter or other document signed by a licensed optometrist certifying that the person must be shaded from the sun due to a visual condition. The devices authorized by this paragraph shall not be used during darkness.

(11) An electronic communication device affixed to the center uppermost portion of the interior of a windshield within an area that is not greater than 5 inches square, if the device provides either of the following:

(A) The capability for enforcement facilities of the Department of the California Highway Patrol to communicate with a vehicle equipped with the device.

(B) The capability for electronic toll and traffic management on public or private roads or facilities.

(c) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), transparent material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the topmost portion of the windshield if the following conditions apply:

(1) The bottom edge of the material is at least 29 inches above the undepressed driver's seat when measured from a point 5 inches in front of the bottom of the backrest with the driver's seat in its rearmost and lowermost position with the vehicle on a level surface.

(2) The material is not red or amber in color.

(3) There is no opaque lettering on the material and any other lettering does not affect primary colors or distort vision through the windshield.

(4) The material does not reflect sunlight or headlight glare into the eyes of occupants of oncoming or following vehicles to any greater extent than the windshield without the material.

(d) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), clear, colorless, and transparent material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the front side windows, located to the immediate left and right of the front seat if the following conditions are met:

(1) The material has a minimum visible light transmittance of 88 percent.

(2) The window glazing with the material applied meets all requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 205 (49 C.F.R. 571.205), including the specified minimum light transmittance of 70 percent and the abrasion resistance of AS-14 glazing, as specified in that federal standard.

(3) The material is designed and manufactured to enhance the ability of the existing window glass to block the sun's harmful ultraviolet A rays.

(4) The driver has in his or her possession, or within the vehicle, a certificate signed by the installing company certifying that the windows with the material installed meet the requirements of this subdivision and identifies the installing company and the material's manufacturer by full name and street address, or, if the material was installed by the vehicle owner, a certificate signed by the material's manufacturer certifying that the windows with the material installed according to manufacturer's instructions meets the requirements of this subdivision and identifies the material's manufacturer by full name and street address.

(5) If the material described in this subdivision tears or bubbles, or is otherwise worn to prohibit clear vision, it shall be removed or replaced.




he got u on the first one but not the second one

oh and "factory tint" isn't really tint, so no way in hell could your car have come with tint from the dealer.

 

[sphillips91]

When you goto court, remember. Too be a judge you need a degree, to be a cop you don't.

Fight it. I dont know about the tint, if its from the factory there wont be a problem. If someone put it on and its too dark than its a valid ticket.

The spoiler is BS. If its the factory one than there is no problem.

 

[stockmkt8r]

Quite true to the 'degree' issue.

I went to a tinting shop and the dealership and was told that the tint was not factory. I guess the factory tint is built into the window and meets some AS-2 tint specification that makes it legal.

The spoiler I had verified by teh dealer that it's factory and an OE part. I think with this, i'll just visually show the judge pictures from mitsubishi or something.

Thanks guys, you've all been a REAL BIG HELP.