Come inside, got a few questions. Bushings, Camber, Brakes....

[my98GST]

Alright I'm looking to really hit up my suspension and brakes in the very near future.

My current suspension is: Prokit springs, AGX struts, rmDSM front and rear sways, and a full set of strut tower bars.

Bushings: I'm looking to get the master set from Energy suspension.. My car has 175k on it and it has seen some abuse. With switching these out, what all will I be able to notice?


Camber: I think the last time that I got my car aligned my camber was -1.27 in the rear and -1.87 in the front. I'm wanting to get my camber back as close to stock as possible. What camber kit do you guys suggest? I was looking at the Ingals kit, and they offer several different types and I'm lost at what I would need.

Brakes: I was looking at some rotors from stoptech which are almost two inches all the way around larger than stocks that are also slotted. I was thinking about doing the 2g GSX calipers since they are dual piston calipers. Would I see a noticeable difference in braking or should I just hold out and do either an actual big brake kit or some evo brakes? If I were to do the stoptech rotors and GSX calipers, would I have to have the rotors that were made for AWD or FWD?

 

[DirtyBirdRacing]

Hi,

I dont know that much about the Stoptech brakes but you could check out the Wilwood setup from Todd at TCE if you feel like getting a big break kit.

http://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/cgi-bin/brakes/cginews.pl?record=14

Bill

 

[taylork057]

a friend has the energey bushing kit.. said car felt brand new!. no shakes or wobbles

 

[jtmcinder]

Camber: I think the last time that I got my car aligned my camber was -1.27 in the rear and -1.87 in the front. I'm wanting to get my camber back as close to stock as possible. What camber kit do you guys suggest?

Leave it alone. Unless this is a drag car, those are better values than stock.

- Jtoby

 

[DirtyBirdRacing]

Leave it alone. Unless this is a drag car, those are better values than stock.

- Jtoby

Hi,

I'm really sorry to jack your thread, but what camber values would you recommend for an AWD drag car?

Bill

 

[jtmcinder]

For a 2G, maybe about -.75 in the front. Why not zero? Because the car goes positive in jounce and the nose lifts when accelerating.

In the rear, it doesn't matter very much, since you'll have more grip than the front in almost any case. But I'd stop at a degree.

- Jtoby

 

[DirtyBirdRacing]

For a 2G, maybe about -.75 in the front. Why not zero? Because the car goes positive in jounce and the nose lifts when accelerating.

In the rear, it doesn't matter very much, since you'll have more grip than the front in almost any case. But I'd stop at a degree.

- Jtoby

Ok, thanks a lot that makes sense. What would say for a 1g AWD? Basically the same thing?

Bill

 

[jtmcinder]

Not quite. The bump-camber curve for a 1G (since it has struts, not double-wishbone) is much flatter. Therefore, a 1G drag car should run even less front camber.

- Jtoby

 

[DirtyBirdRacing]

Not quite. The bump-camber curve for a 1G (since it has struts, not double-wishbone) is much flatter. Therefore, a 1G drag car should run even less front camber.

- Jtoby

Thanks, that makes sense too. Thats why I asked because of the differences in 1g and 2g suspension geometries.

Bill

 

[pneumo]

Not quite. The bump-camber curve for a 1G (since it has struts, not double-wishbone) is much flatter. Therefore, a 1G drag car should run even less front camber.

- Jtoby

On my 1G that sees mostly drag racing I like the front camber set to zero. There is almost no change in camber as the front end rises or dives, so the contact patch stays square to the road.

 

[underradar92]

Thank you all for leaving the brake question for me.

You will notice nearly any upgrade in braking, the most popular one being the 2 piston upgrade, with stock sized rotors for a GSX. Those seem to be plenty of brake, given the correct pad choice, even for open track days. (Although some notoriously brake happy drivers, have killed even the 1.1" thick, 13" rotor setups! WTF )

A setup with stock (2 piston) calipers and a big rotor kit, should give even better stopping power, arguably too much front bias though. Replacement rotors may be pricey, also.

All told, It depends on what the car will be used for. My thought is, do the 2 piston GSX-type upgrade with good pads and S.S. hoses.

Any more brake is (IMHO) just wasted money unless you must have bling factor or intend to do serious open tracking.

Oh yeah, one more point. Ditch the single pot front calipers regardless. They suck.

 

[DirtyBirdRacing]

Ditch the single pot front calipers regardless. They suck.

Agreed, haha.

Bill