coil overs, quality.

[milkeyisback]

hey im feeling like lowering my car a couple inches and i need to know what i should buy, i had a civic that my friend bought coilovers for and the alignment just got shot to hell, the tires wore off at the inside inch, and some on the wall, they were HORRIBLE, the car had like zero tracton cuz the tires were sitting in so far. im poor so i would be getting something like this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7904787417&category=33582 do you think the same thing will happen or should i be ok? Ive also heard that lowering your car sometimes pushes the driveline? or something like that into the transmission sometimes screwing it up. Imput on that would be great 2.

 

[PaulPDX]

1. Coilovers don't have much to do with alignment unless the coilovers come with camber plates.

2. Any time you lower or raise a vehicle's suspension you must have it aligned.

3. If the amount of lowering or raising is beyond the range of stock camber/caster adjustments, then you must install a camber kit to give you the adjustment range needed.

4. Ebay is essentially an online flea market. Would you go to a flea market to shop for quality products your life may depend upon? Not to mention the one you posted is brandless generic made in China or Taiwan crap... Cheap crap are cheap for good reasons. They are cheap because they are made cheap, have little research and development behind them, have zero industry certification, and/or no one (sucker) would buy them if they weren't cheap. Selling them cheap is the only way they can be sold.

 

[milkeyisback]

yea i think what happened on my civic was it was lowered 2 much for the chamber kit, so when i took it into les shwab for alignment they said they couldnt and a kit was gonna cost 500 bucks.. or something like that, i remember the total bill was 500.

 

[n3gativerr0r]

If you cant do it right you shouldnt do it at all. Save until you can afford to do it right. When you have enough and get it done right youll be a whole lot happier than wasting X amount of money and having a car that rides like shit.

 

[cuttheduck]

Seems like the cheapest coilovers anyone messes w/ and worth anything at all are ground controls. Though they are $360+ and you have the ability to match them w/ the aftermarket shocks you have.I have never heard of anyone even having satisfactory results w/ any of the cheap ebay coilovers. I have heard plenty of Horror stories though.

If you want cheap lowering try springs. Sportlines drop about 2 inches though you will just sit the car down close to the bump stops. Also that much lowering will probaly mean your shocks wont last. Also camber kit needed front AND back. Your call

If you get eibach pro-kits you get about 1.5 inch drop and usually a "homemade" rear camber kit for like 15 bux is all you need. Shocks may not last too long either though.

 

[cuttheduck]

If you cant do it right you shouldnt do it at all. Save until you can afford to do it right. When you have enough and get it done right youll be a whole lot happier than wasting X amount of money and having a car that rides like shit.

AMEN!!! This should be a suspension sticky. Though it really applies to everything.

 

[mykanglow2]

I had to buy a new shock cause of the coilovers i bought from e-bay. so save up. i could had put the money i used on the new shock for good coilovers so save.

 

[VrooomPshhh]

Coil Over Sleeves and Lowering Springs are the most common ways to lower a car, but no matter what kit, you cant avoid the loss in suspension travel. A great way to go is with this suspension http://www.maxspeedperformance.com/products/?sfID1=137&productID=1749 I have these on my 95 Talon TSI AWD and the suspension is great. I can get my car really low and not loose any suspension travel because its designed to adjust the length of the shock body and not the length of the spring.
It’s definitely bang for the buck.

 

[PaulPDX]

Sounds like a plug for a business. The poster is in Hayward, CA... and the business, MaxSpeed, is in.... *drum roll* Hayward, CA!

Hey, what a darn coincidence.

MaxSpeed who? where do they do their testing? The streets of Oakland? Butt strut dyno in the company shack?

The sleeve kits are the same crap sold on Ebay. Let me guess... cheap product sourced from factory X in China, slap on Y brand sticker, put up Z.com website and sell to S customer. S stands for "sucker".

Would anyone give credibility to this MaxSpeed suspension considering it also sells generic shift knobs and what's this? pocket bikes? Hmmmmm. I smell fish.

No dice. :thumbdown

 

[VrooomPshhh]

I see you are skeptical about our product. I don’t just work for the company , I have been involved with DSM's for five years. I have a 92 TSI and a 95 TSI AWD, and I have the NEX for my 2G. I think it’s a great kit especially for the price. I don't work for NEX, but I do work for Maxspeedperformance.com. I’m not trying to hide anything or be fishy. It’s a great suspension that we sell, and I am just trying to let more people know about it.
About the testing, the testing is done at the manufacturing plant (in Taiwan). The manufacturing plant has all the test equipment needed like the Strut Dyno. Then a prototype is sent to the U.S. warehouse for testing "in the streets of Oakland" which is where the Eclipse struts were tested on my car for several months before their release, because that’s where the suspension will be used most, The Streets.
The NEX is also tested in Europe and Taiwan, so to make sure they are compatible and qualified for world wide use.
I’m just offering a great product that I have and am using first hand. If I was being fishy, I wouldn't use the product I sell.

 

[PaulPDX]

See forum rules regarding sponsors and non-sponsor plugs. Street testing alone means nothing. I've been to Taiwan and no way in hell they can do any kind of relevant track testing there... let alone a small generic parts manufacturing business.

Just because a product works doesn't mean it is good enough.