car is in shop.needs fix.help. <------ YEAH WAS BULL SHAIT

[ryu]

well the car is in the shop now and got inspected. but the guy told me that i need the serpentine? cerpentine belt fixed because it has a crack. he said its the belt that drives all the stuff like water pump and fan and i think he said some other stuff also. he quoted me 133.00 installed. can i fix this myself???? please help asap! i must call back. thanks

 

[TooSlowGSX92]

wtf?
#1. dsms do not have fan belts
#2. 3 belts(alternator, crank, wp) (wp, power steering) (ac, wp)
#3 the best belt from any auto store for the alt, crank, wp which is the most expensive is no more the 21 dollars, i know this cuz i work at advance and ours is 17.88
#4 very simple job, do it yourself

 

[Tallen]

If he quotes over $50, laugh and DIY.

 

[IMMORTALSPYDER]

But- They may make you pay to get reinspected after YOU change the belt. That's one way they get you to let them do the work. So look at the price now. Then again, I usually work on my car myself so it's up to you.

 

[92redman]

I would find out how much it's gonna cost you for parts and for reinspection. If it is less than the quote, then DIY.

DSMs don't have serpentine belts so yours doesn't need to be replaced. Like said above, if you have a/c, you have 3 v-belts. All 3 can be had for probably under $50 and take you probably 30 min to install.

 

[ryu]

so does this mean he is totaly full of crap?i mean what can i do. the inspection costed me 50 bucks already. and my temp tags expire on saterday. should i take the car back and pay a fee for bringing the car in late for regsteration??? do you guys know what the law is on passing the temp tag date? should i do that and fix myself (if anything is even wrong w/it) if i go back to the same shop for a reinspection it will run me 25 bucks. what should i do????

 

[ryu]

i should have not waited till the day before to inspect the car.. wtf was i thinking...

 

[IMMORTALSPYDER]

I'd go there and confirm that the belts are bad first. Then it's up to you if you want to change the belts yourself or pay to have your mechanic do it.

 

[ryu]

should i just not call and go to check it out? i mean what would i say? this car doesnt have a serpentine belt, let me see it? so if he is b.s.ing me what should i say??? what about the q i had about the temp tags???

 

[TooSlowGSX92]

$133 is ridiculous to change a belt especially when u can get all 3 for about 50 bucks and diy in half hour or so, go back there kick that ####er in the nuts take ur car and diy urself, even if u have to pay the fee for registering late itll still be less then what u have to pay for this numbnuts to fix it

 

[TDX]

Got 2 words for you

:thumbdown Labor Cost! :thumbdown​

- Patrick

 

[TDX]

should i just not call and go to check it out? i mean what would i say? this car doesnt have a serpentine belt, let me see it? so if he is b.s.ing me what should i say??? what about the q i had about the temp tags???

^ Maybe the previous owner changed it to a serpentine belt?

 

[ryu]

well if no body can give me any more advice soon i will just go w/out calling and ask to see the "crack"

 

[anconover]

buy a 15$ belt, do it yourself, and pay to have the car inspected again, stll be cheaper than 133$ total =P

But damn, inspection is 15$ here in NY, but now since NY has emissions testing who knows

 

[splattj]

Go check it out. Find out what the reinspection fee it. (it often differs from the initial inspection as if it is within 30days or 1000 miles they only have to reinspect the part that they failed you on. If it turns out the guy is trying to screw you leave the car there until you call these guys:

Maryland State Police
Automotive Safety Enforcement Division (ASED)
6601 Ritchie Highway, NE
Glen Burnie, MD 21062
Telephone: 410-768-7388

They're in charge of enforcement of rules and regs for the inspection stations.

 

[GSX_RCR]

I bet the guy didn't even look at your car and just gave you a bogus quote.

1) Your waterpump is driven by your timing belt.
2) Your fans are electronic.

He would have known that if he had just opened the hood to actually inspect it. But then again, if all that guy works on are 350 Chevys, then he'd be right. But your car isn't a Chevy. And he's not really a mechanic.

:laugh:

:thumbdown for shady shops.

 

[4g64GST]

DSMs don't have serpentine belts

you might want to double check that info. because they do..


I would go look at the car. this is not as big of a deal as your are making it.
you should have checked it before anyway.

 

[huafist]

I bet the guy didn't even look at your car and just gave you a bogus quote.

1) Your waterpump is driven by your timing belt.
2) Your fans are electronic.

He would have known that if he had just opened the hood to actually inspect it. But then again, if all that guy works on are 350 Chevys, then he'd be right. But your car isn't a Chevy. And he's not really a mechanic.

:laugh:

:thumbdown for shady shops.

Um... NO.
Your waterpump is NOT driven by your timing belt. It's driven by the alternator belt(which is serpentine). That belt runs from the outside track on your crank pulley to the outside track on your water pump pulley and then to your alt. Your P/S pump is ran from the inside track on the Water pump pulley(V-belt). The inside track on your crank pulley runs your A/C compressor(again, serpentine). The timing belt is just there to keep the oil pump, crank, and cams in time with each other (balance shafts optional).

Serpentine or V-belt simply refers to the tracking on the inside of the belt.

But you're right about the fans, they are electronic.

 

[ryu]

you might want to double check that info. because they do..


I would go look at the car. this is not as big of a deal as your are making it.
you should have checked it before anyway.

well the big deal is that i need the car today to take a 6 hour trip and my temp tags expire on sat. im going to go look at the car. ill let you guys know if he was just bull shitin me. thanks for your help.
splattj; what i will do is i will go there, keep the failed inspection thing and get a quote and then ask them to let me see the belt. that way i have proof that he wanted my car fixed when it wasnt even broken. thanks for that info

 

[huafist]

well the big deal is that i need the car today to take a 6 hour trip and my temp tags expire on sat. im going to go look at the car. ill let you guys know if he was just bull shitin me. thanks for your help.
splattj; what i will do is i will go there, keep the failed inspection thing and get a quote and then ask them to let me see the belt. that way i have proof that he wanted my car fixed when it wasnt even broken. thanks for that info

ryu, if your Alternator/WP belt is cracked, you can fix that yourself in a matter of 15 or 20 minutes, tops. Don't get burned by some a$$clown who thinks he can make a quick buck off of you. But he's right about one thing, it IS serpentine (as I posted above).

 

[ryu]

well i went and asked to see the car. they were all asking me if i was going to fix it and sh*t. i was like just let me see the belt. well they show me the belt for the power steering/ water pump. it was NOT a belt that runs all this crap he was talking about. so i asked him to show me the crack and he told me he could because he didnt have a flash light. it could be true and it could also explain the fact that, that belt squeaks when i turn lock. so even tho it is true that something needed replacement. he would have charged me 133 bucks to change a freakin power steering belt.. got my car out. ill probebly just do the whole 60k mile main. thing. thanks alot guys!!! fam

 

[GSX_RCR]

Um... NO.
Your waterpump is NOT driven by your timing belt. It's driven by the alternator belt

Sorry, noob moment. OIL PUMP is driven by the timing belt.

(Just did a timing belt job for a Honda last weekend, still fresh in my head. )

 

[92redman]

For the second time, we DON'T have a serpentine belt. Serpenting belts are flat ribbed belts that get their name for the way the "snake" around the pullies. AFAIK, we have a type of v-belt or perhaps poly v-belt that doens't drive any pullies on the back side. There are 3 of them, if we had a serpentine belt, all the pullies would be lined up and caught by one belt.

 

[hellotbone]

My motor has flat belts with ribs on the power steering pump and alternator. THere are no V belts on my motor and they are all stock pulleys.

 

[FORMONTOYA]

do not know how it is where you live, in texas you have 10 working days to make repairs after failing an inspection.


jim