Anyone with a RNR 3" O2 elim downpipe

[RnR Racing]

Glad, you are happy with it. You can throw some high temp paint on the 02 housing to make it look better. It holds up pretty well if you get the right stuff. We use to do that, but some people didn't want it on there so we stopped.


Also you got the Magnaflow muffler which is much nicer than the Bullet. We are using this for time being and they sound better and are much more expensive.



Glad everything worked out for you. Ryan

 

[boostedinaz]

Well I was a bit skeptical at first about the fit of the exhaust. It looked like it would fit well but I have heard some stories that say otherwise. I spent the entire morning with MoBoost and we put my exhaust on. I had a custom made 2.5 exhaust made for my FWD car and the O2 elim on that was a pain in the ass to get to any of the bolts. I expected a HUGE PIA on this one because of the sheer size. To my suprise this is the easiest O2 elim I have ever seen. I could finger tighten ALL the bolts and get to then with wrenches to make sure it was all tight. The DP fit perfect and doesnt touch anything. It may come real close but never actually touches. The hangers for the mid pipe fit perfect and I had no problem with that portion at all. The last, and most important part, was the muffler. The hanger all the way on the end fit perfect and placed the tip and a super nice angle, however the other two hangers were not as lucky. They got it from the old hammer. I had to knock them to one side a bit to get it all to line up just the way I wanted it. I also had to make spacers from old exhaust pieces to get those hangers low enough so the tip didnt hit the body. Over al I am impressed with the initial quality and fit of the product. I have yet to see what the long term will hold for this but I think it will be ok and will hold up.

As far as performance the car is a great deal faster and pulls all the way to redline. The only gripe I have is that I now have boostcreep. I dont think it is the fault of the exhaust I think I may have other issues going on. It is a bit on the loud side but I persoanlly could care less. I am pretty sure I will get used to it and it wont be a problem. I will sort it out on my own.

So, all and all the product is great and the fitment is very nice. The customer service is very lack luster and could use a great deal of help. If you dont mind waiting I would say go with nothing but RNR exhaust for the money and performance. Well enough talking here are the pics.


Michael


PS Hearing the turbo spool from behind the car through the exhaust is one of the sexiest sounds on the planet. MMMMMMMM

 

[boostedinaz]

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[RnR Racing]

The mufflers looks great from the rear. I am happy we have another happy customer. The way we build the 02 elim works our great because installing it is pretty simple.




We take your guys advice very seriously and we are working on improving our customer service. We want to be known to have great customer service as well as our products. We want our customers to be able to get ahold of no problem for updates and so on.



Glad you like the quality and fitment.

 

[Way2real316]

Originally posted by TurboAWD92GSX
02 elim downpipes suck. you have to remove the whole downpipe if you are doing something like a turbo swap your headgasket or do your oil pan cause you have to remove the whole entire o2 housing/downpipe. it would be much easier to undue 2 bolt from the o2 housing downpipe flange and be done with it. also o2 elim downpipe are harder to get fitted. i have a 3.5" o2 elimdownpipe from RnR racing and it fits horrible. hits the front bar the cross members attach to and it hits the transfer case and hangs to low to the ground. After 3 months of telling me ryan is going to fix it, it still hasnt been fixed. He is busy and other cars are in the shop. in my opinion just save up for a tubular o2 housing later on and get the downpipe now. there arent that much to gain hp wise unless your making pretty decent power already.

I had no problems with my o2 elim downpipe i have a 2.5 inch turbo back. took it to menike and for 100 bucks they welded on flanges and fitted it. Since then i have done a turbo swap droped the oil pan and it was a cince. its no hassle at all unbot a couple of screws. I guess i was lucky

 

[RnR Racing]

TurboAWD92GSX, is just mad because we won't work on his car. We refuse to allow him at our shop anymore because we have been warned by many people about Manny.

 

[TurboAWD92GSX]

ryan thats bs. you promised to fix the exhuast. now you have been warned about me which is bs and now you wont fix it. i have sat at your shop for hours nothing gone missing. all i want is my exhaust system fixed as promised.

 

[wishihadatalon]

just wondering did you guys recieve clamps with your system

 

[boostedinaz]

No it doesnt come with any clamps. I just ordered some from RoadRace at this link. I got the T clamps becasue they look nicer and will hold better.


Michael

 

[Way2real316]

Originally posted by wishihadatalon
just wondering did you guys recieve clamps with your system

Dont use clamps it will crush the piping and you will have leaks. Just take it to a muffler shop and have them weld flanges i paid 50bucks at menike and they welded flanges hooked me up with gaskets. If you just wanna low ball it go with the U-clamps there about a $1.50 at advance auto, pep boys etc

 

[RnR Racing]

You don't need flanges welded into the system.

What you need to use if you want to clamp it is SS band clamps. If you use regular u clamps it will crush the pipes and you might have problems later on. We sell the SS band clamps for $12 a piece.

Let me know if there are any other questions about the system.

 

[boostedinaz]

I got these and they work great. They dont crush like a U-bolt and they arent super expensive. The best of both worlds IMO. I would want to weld it becasue if you need to take it down or off for any reason then it will be a PIA.

Michael

 

[PaulPDX]

I have a turbo back with o2 elim and a high flow cat... so I can't really answer the questions in the original post.

About the problems and delays... while I had some issues with my order as well... in RnR's defense, I don't think any of you will appreciate how hard it is to start and run a business like his until you try it yourself.

Once you do, you'll understand that it's a very hard juggling act between product quality, available time, business volume, profit margins, overhead costs, and customer service.

Ryan has employees, subcontractors, and probablly a lease to pay. He has to keep the money flowing in. He could've set the prices higher to keep the order volume down so he could have a easier time keeping up. But, if he set it just a bit too high, fewer orders would be placed. Change one thing... other things suffer. I agree, things seem to be out of balance... customers aren't happy and he's way too busy trying to set things right or trying to keep everybody happy (not possible)... and because of that some emails go unanswered, or some orders get mixed up, or production falls behind. Or, in my case, miscommunication on the order occurred and I didn't get exactly what I wanted.

Would I have perferred to get exactly what I wanted? you bet. But, what's done is done and what I did get was of pretty good quality.

So... bottomline is each person has to decide what they want and who they want to buy from.

If you really don't want to wait... just go to a local custom exhaust shop and have one built. Either way, you're taking a chance and a leap of faith that it will get done right and on-time. Question is, do you want to let someone who is familiar with the car do it or someone who has done nothing but good o' detroit steel muscle cars?

For what it's worth... at least get the downpipe. It's a really nice piece. The one piece o2 + downpipe combo was a pain to install, but it is very very nice.

Oh, and those of you 1G owners 91's and up (with the internal oil cooler), you may want to switch to a different filter mount to elminate the internal cooler. Once the downpipe is on, you may not be able to get your oil filter off without removing the downpipe. The downpipe is the part I have no regrets about.

 

[boostedinaz]

I completly understand what he may be going through. He also, as a business owner, needs to see when he is getting in over his head and hurting his business. If he doesnt have time himself or enough employees then he needs to stop taking orders for a bit and get caught up. Not only is he not doing that but he is comming out with new products. I see that Taboo on Talk has his own business and he stopped making products becasue he either didnt have enough time or the people he contacted with were not on time. I think Ryan could have an amazing business if he could sort out the customer service problems. His products are top notch and fit well but when people get mad then they talk and that will kill any business.

Michael

 

[PaulPDX]

Update, had the car on the lift after a month (or close to it) with the exhaust. I noticed the flex joint of the downpipe is rubbing on the front swaybar.

Also, according to the guy at the exhaust shop the high flow cat supplied by RNR is the wrong kind. He called it a dual puck cat... and because it is a dual puck it has a little tube coming out of it like a hook... this tube is capped off. The guy said that type of cat is suppose to face forward and have fresh air pumped into it. The right kind of cat is suppose to be a single puck cat.

Also, he said the exhaust band clamps "really suck". That's why I was in the exhaust shop to begin with. Went over a wide speed bump a little fast and the up and down motion caused the pipes to loosen and started rattling really bad against the heat shield around the cat.

So... Ryan, if you are still reading this thread... you might want to make some improvements like bend the downpipe a little lower to give the sway a little room and use a different cat... like a Random Tech (which is a little smaller).

The way my system is now, I can see having problems if my car is lowered by more than 1.5". I personally wouldn't lower it that much... but others might.

Oh btw, the lift isn't the kind that lets the wheels drop free. It's the kind you drive onto. So if the flex is touching the factory sway... there's bound to be more contact with suspension travel.

Longer band clamps would be good too.

 

[RnR Racing]

The cat that is used is just a universal 3 cat from Magnaflow. When you install it just put the tube facing the rear.



There is only one kind of band clamps that are made for 3" so we can't get anything longer. They are super high quality SS band clamps that work well for the piping. Also I wouldn't always believe everything the muffler shop guys say.


Thanks for the comments and suggestions. Ryan

 

[PaulPDX]

Perhaps my cat was installed incorrectly, but since everything is so tight (in terms of space and clearance) the cat is turned to the side a bit with the tube facing back and hanging down low... this reduced ground clearance by about 1".

The downpipe definitly need a little bit of reworking. The flex join is resting against front sway.

Minus the small issues... overall performance has been good.

 

[Clipse]

Update... I sold mine

 

[Scrymerr]

I have a few suggestions as well. I ordered a SS 2.5" cat elim. O2 elim DP. Got here in the estimated time without a problem. The only regret I have was not having a flange welded for the cat. I did not realize at the time that it would replace the cat... I thought it would be a pipe. I suggest that this option is offered when purchasing the exhaust. Many of us (especially in CA) need cats. I had to take mine to a local muffler shop and have them cut the pipe and weld the flange in, and they TOTALLY screwed it up. Now my exhaust is one long piece of dookie. One other thing: How hard would it be to take the O2 elim DP, and cut and weld flanges to turn it in to an O2 sensor housing, and downpipe seperately. I wish I had done this too. Anyway, I will sell this exhaust soon, and probably go with another RNR exhaust.

Thanks Ryan.

 

[Clipse]

Originally posted by Scrymerr
How hard would it be to take the O2 elim DP, and cut and weld flanges to turn it in to an O2 sensor housing,

It would be very easy, just take it to a reputable shop and have it done by someone who knows how to cut and weld clean.

Or just sell it...