Anyone running a FP Green?

[mclaren55]

I would rather stick with a proven turbo then a new one. I guess that is why I run a 4 or 5 year old (design wise) turbocharger opposed to a new one. Which is better, well that is something you have to ask actually owners of the turbo's. Not a bunch of guys that go by flow numbers and what the companies website says. Hell if I had done that, I would have gone with a bigger turbo. Yet I made 610-620bhp out of this one. So, check out guys setups, there times, there dyno's, etc, and make your own decision.

 

[jdmawd]

Anyone here who knows Sean Ivy's 1g -- knows that his L3R dynoed at over 450hp to the wheels with major tuning problems -- the car was NOT dialed in for crap. -- and he didn't use the bottle.

it was actually 478 to the wheels with ALL types of tuning issues. i know Sean personally he has had that L3R on his car for a while. he was the first in that group to run 10.5 on the red. needless to say he and many others dumper their reds for L3R. it does not take a rocket scientist to know a faster spooling more efficient turbo will work better.(even *i* know that)

Do I trust hype? No... If I did I would of bought a Mutt a long time ago, but instead I let them prove that there turbos sucked.

When did they prove that? Is it fair to judge a product by the fool that buys it?? i think not all this Internet turbo hype BS is old, either go fast or dont. quit all the dribble already.

this turbo that turbo blah blah blah

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by TRBOTSI
Oh you're the guy who paid Extreme Motorsports $7500 to rebuild your engine and then have it crankwalk 700 miles later...... Looks like you enjoy throwing your money away...enough said!!!

at least he had it to spend, problems can happen anywhere. extreme is 5 miles from my house. when time comes, for a completely built motor. you best believe the glazers will be turning the wrenches. *EVERYONE* on the planet does not want to be bothered with shipping blocks,heads core charges and making a F@cking mess all over the house. some people in the dsm community can (are you sitting down) afford to have big name shops work on their cars. just because most dsm's are associated with backyard mechanics, and Jerry rigging does not mean some cant afford to go big budget on there cars.

 

[GoFastTSI]

It's getting deep in here....

 

[4ged4G63]

Originally posted by GoFastTSI
It's getting deep in here....

like how....stepping in #@%#@%#@%#@% deep or tension building up deep?

 

[696]

Who makes the L2R? Where can I find there website for more info?
696

 

[696]

Never mind, I found it...
696

 

[larryd]

www.agpturbo.com for anyone else who doesnt know

 

[TurboTalon90]

ok, ok ok....we're all here to get and give info., now everybody rub asses and make up

 

[GSX4LIFE]

Oh, BTW. Did anyone mention that www.agpturbo.com also has a t-28, with what appears to be the same specs as FPs Big28? Oh wait a minute, FP never reveals thier specs. J/K I think its basically identical, though. And brand new its only $850. Oh, and for anyone checking out AGPs site, thats my car on the first page. Yeah Dog.

 

[larryd]

u suck

 

[Violater101]

I think this thread got way off topic. I have a Green currently after previously having the Big28, but I am having creep issues right now, so I havn't really gotten on it. Hopefully I will have this problem fixed shortly and I post my thoughts. I have no doubt that its everything that's advertised and more.

 

[GSX4LIFE]

Hmm, I ran 13psi on my L2R with NO creep whatsoever. And, yes, its internally gated.

 

[jdmawd]

some time has passed since this thread was started. also many of the turbo's discussed have made some pretty impressive accomplishments also. would this not at least prove that a good design on paper is a feasible way to choose/select a turbo. would this not justify buying a turbo based on what wheels, housings and center cartridge type. is a sensible way to make a turbo selection if it fits your goals. in actuallity nothing has changed as far as the turbos disscused. only that people have tuned them and put hard numbers down at the track. In my opinion, its safe to assume that turbo selection *can* be made by compressor maps and data gathered on paper and not exclusively track only feed back and times.

 

[jw]

Can someone post some links to the L2R and L3R timeslips? I tried searching on times.dsm.org and only 1 AGP L3R showed up

 

[Violater101]

I've since fixed the boost creep issue, but havn't had any real time to tune the car...plan on doing it this weekend on the dyno

 

[UndergroundR32]

Originally posted by jw
Can someone post some links to the L2R and L3R timeslips? I tried searching on times.dsm.org and only 1 AGP L3R showed up

Yes, well you have to understand that the AGP turbos haven't been proven yet.

Right jdmawd

 

[harryb]

L2R owner's go home. This thread is about the green and not about which is better in your opinion. The guy asked for our opinions on the Forced Performance Green Turbo. Not the AGP L2R. Jesus some people have nothing better to do..

 

[raylaf]

jdmawd have you talked to Sean lately. I hear he trashed his L3R because it ran poorly.

 

[AntGVR4]

Like my sig says.
Let the numbers talk.

Ant

 

[jw]

Quoted directly from FP website:

"Our commitment to excellence begins with thorough R&D and track testing on every custom turbo combination we offer for the DSM, before we offer them to the public. We bolt every one of our new designs onto our own cars, and put them through hours of dyno and track testing, and we'll show you the proof. You will never hear us say "well it should flow 8 billion CFM"... Who cares what your turbo looks like on paper?? If it can't deliver results at the track, it's just an expensive paperweight. "

That is what I like, NO B.S.

Vendors want the customer to prove the turbo? Too expensive to help them do their job.

Originally posted by UndergroundR32


Yes, well you have to understand that the AGP turbos haven't been proven yet.

Right jdmawd

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by raylaf
jdmawd have you talked to Sean lately. I hear he trashed his L3R because it ran poorly.

i have not spoken to him since he switched. actually jared told me he switch to a t66 or something. im not 100% sure of the reason.

 

[Kevin Jewer]

Just another data point pertaining to the original topic... A friend of mine just ran his (well supported) car on the dyno last weekend with a green. 26 psi on -pump gas- with AF ratio all over the place yielded 406 WHP. Not too shabby, IMO

 

[Violater101]

I am dynoing my car this weekend on 20psi and pumpgas. Hopefully I will be making some good power...the car sure feels like it according to the buttometer

Problem with threads like these is they get way off topic and other people start throwing there 2 words of advice in like "have you thought about this vendor's turbo" etc. Nothing wrong in that if they were asking for an opinion that that vendor's turbo, but when they ask about the Green, that is what should be talked about. Any advice on what kind of timing I should tune for on 20lbs of boost? I think I will shoot for an A/F ratio of around 10:1

 

[Kevin Jewer]

I believe the car I mentioned above made the most power at closer to 12 to 1. Most cars did thier best when fluctuating around 11.8 to 12.2, but every WB sensor is a bit different. Good luck at the dyno