FP Green questions?????

[Violater101]

I wouldn't trust a pocket logger on a 2g. If you go that route, your going with an AFC. With an plogger, you can't really log knock, but instead timing. Although you may think that you are not knocking and getting great timing, that may in itself, so so far from the truth, its not even funny. Your car may want to give you 10 degrees of timing advance(because the afc is lying to car about airflow) and then pull all but say 3 of it back (7 degrees of knock retard). Hence, it looks like your not knocking because with a logger, the timing would still be advancing. This isn't always the case obviously, but enough to concern me that I wouldn't want to do this to my engine.

 

[dsmturboawd]

Originally posted by AWDFury
That is CRAZY a STOCK 7-Bolt can handle 12 sec passes with a big turbo with fuel mods, more air flow, and dsm link!!!! mmmmmm.. Thanks

no0b.

 

[AWDFury]

So with DSM Link I have to buy a lap top computer huh? whew!!!
DSMTURBOAWD what does noOB mean? Are you saying I need upgraded internals now to run 12's?

 

[dsmturboawd]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=4

 

[leet]

Originally posted by dsmturboawd
no0b.

Sigh.

 

[hostile]

No you can run dsmlink on a palm pilot or laptop, dsmlink gives you a lot more features than just a logger and fuel control.

DSMlink.com has all the new features listed on their website.

Like I was saying it is safer than having an egt guage because it will flash a knock light when your knocking. EGT is a tool, but an accurate knock indicator is much easier to look at when racing.

It is also a better logger than anything else oout that works with the stock ecu. When they upgrade the ecu ti allows you faster logging, and you can log more stuff at once.

My first suggestion, would be to buy dsmlink and atleast 660 injectors, and mess around with tuning before you go with a bigger turbo.

Once you get it running good with large injectors you should be able to put on a bigger turbo like a 50 trim or 20g without having any problems.

 

[candela]

link > logger Its all about the timing, you can tune with the logger; only view a little bit about whats going on.

 

[AWDFury]

Thanks for the info!

 

[dsmturboawd]

Originally posted by leet
Sigh.

you must be kidding.

 

[DSMJim]

I tuned my car with AFC and logger (plus a Wide Band eventually) and made 357whp and ran 12.59 @ 110mph. The wideband was later on and I picked up an additional 3mph by the 1/8th just leaning my mixture out to around 11.8:1 (vs. 11.1:1 like before on the 12.59 pass) and the power came up a lot. Too bad I never got a clean pass to really see the diff. Based on the increase of 1/8th mile speed and trap I was on the way to a 12.3 or better.

At the time that was on stock cams and stock intake manifold just turbo and fmic upgrade. I have a magnus intake now and am working on some HKS 268/272's. Thats a stock 7 bolt. I wanna try and run a high 11 on turbo power on my 7 bolt next year.

 

[leet]

Originally posted by dsmturboawd
you must be kidding.

No, my friend, I am not.

 

[Violater101]

Thats awesome Jim ..how much boost was you pushing when you made 357? That was on pumpgas? Nonetheless very nice for stock cams What did you trap in the 1.8th? My best so far is only 86 with my crappy timing and rather rich 10.9:1 a/f. I and still working on my tuning issues.

 

[AWDFury]

Great job man! That's awesome! Hopefully a year from now I can say that stuff too! Jim don't you think it is a good idea if you get 720 injectors and plan for 272/272 cams with that turbo? Wouldn't that make you faster than having 650 injectors and a 264/272 setup?

 

[DSMJim]

Originally posted by AWDFury
Great job man! That's awesome! Hopefully a year from now I can say that stuff too! Jim don't you think it is a good idea if you get 720 injectors and plan for 272/272 cams with that turbo? Wouldn't that make you faster than having 650 injectors and a 264/272 setup?

If I stay with SAFC as my management (, management) then the 264/272 combo will be better off for me. I'm still not planning on running much more than 23-24psi on pump gas so 650cc should still be adequate. If I end up going with an AEM or something along those lines I will be going with the 272/272 and 720cc as you suggested but only because stand alone has much better control over those two items and allow for better streetability.

When I made 357 that was at 22psi on pump with stock cams & intake mani. I have the mani on now but can't drive the car as winter just showed up so it's stored in the garage now.

Oh well next year I'll get to mess around some more.