air oil cooler size

[DsM KiD4]

ok i so ive searched and i could not find my answer. whats the smallest size engine oil cooler i can use on my 1g?? i know setrab is a good brand, but what about Derale? im looking at buy a Derale engine oil cooler and its dimensions are : 6"x10" and is 1 1/4 thick, is this size ok?

 

[Spoolin98]

I would think so, and I hope so. I just ordered one for my 2g, its 5 3/4 X 8 1/4 X 2 with 19 rows. Its the same dimensions this guy used in his write up.

http://www.automotivearticles.com/Oil_Cooler_Install.shtml

 

[DsM KiD4]

ok but what should the smallest size be? any of you using a Derale oil cooler?

 

[Spoolin98]

Of all the research I did, I never heard of a Derale cooler. Most people use Earls, Setrab, or a B&M.

I also never came upon a smallest size possible, so I cant help you on that.

 

[DsM KiD4]

i was thinking of getting THIS derale oil cooler, what do u guys think??http://www.derale.com/plate-and-fin.html

 

[Spoolin98]

Looks like a good quality cooler to me. The DSMotorsports oil cooler is 11" x 8" x 1.5", so you may or may not have a problem with the Derale one being too large.

 

[paper_clip_boy]

Why would you want the smallest possible oil cooler? The bigger, the better in this situation. More cooling and more oil capacity.

 

[Spoolin98]

Why would you want the smallest possible oil cooler? The bigger, the better in this situation. More cooling and more oil capacity.

Not true, too large of an oil cooler will drop your oil temps below where you want them. Especially if you drive your car in cold weather.

 

[DsM KiD4]

well for one im a dsmer on a budet, and why get an oil cooler bigger than what i need. i guess im going to try the derale oil cooler, when i get it on ill post pics and let you know how it turned out. one more question though. the 90 oil filter housing comes with-8an adapters, what size hose would i need?? and what size should the ports be on the oil cooler? im new to all the -aN stuff so i dont really know the sizes. can someone help me out?

 

[Spoolin98]

Personally I think you should go with an oil cooler an inch or two smaller and 2 inches thicker.

The 90 oil filter housing doesnt come with -8an adapters, it doesnt come with adapters at all. It come with two female openings for you to screw adapters into.

As for the adapters, you will need two M16-1.5 to -6 AN or -8AN adaptors, depending on what size lines your going to use. It also depends on what size male ends are on the oil cooler you plan on purchasing.

You can get the adapters at www.anplumbing.com

the M16-1.5 to -6 AN adapter is part number 9919DFJ

the M16-1.5 to -8 AN adapter is part number 9919EFJ

 

[DsM KiD4]

this is the oil cooler i just bought from summit. http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=DER%2D15800B&N=700+4294839034+400434+115&autoview=sku. im not familar with Army Navy fittings so i just had the summit rep figure out what AN sizes i needed, i just told him theres 2 female ports on the housing that will fit -8an and he got me the right fittings and hoses ( i hope). anyways, what do u guys think of that derale oil cooler??

 

[DsM KiD4]

Personally I think you should go with an oil cooler an inch or two smaller and 2 inches thicker.

The 90 oil filter housing doesnt come with -8an adapters, it doesnt come with adapters at all. It come with two female openings for you to screw adapters into.

i was referring to the oil filter housing at mach V. i think they sell it with the -8an adapters installed already. my bad

 

[paper_clip_boy]

Our oil filter housings have an oil thermostat in them that opens and lets the oil go through the cooler at the appropriate time.

Personnally since my car will be mostly running full out at either Road Course of Track, Im going with a Setrab Oil Cooler P/N 125-12 7 1/2" high x 8 1/4" wide. It has 25 rows in it. Also using 12an Lines for maximum Flow and Capacity.

 

[Spoolin98]

You might want to call summit and check with them that they sent you the size fitting I mentioned above, I can almost garantee they arent going to send you the correct fittings.

Also, If I remember correctly, Mach V sells the fittings seperately than the housing and for a ridiculous price. If you buy the housing from JNZtuning and the adapters from anplumbing you will def. pay less.

 

[Spoolin98]

DsM KiD4 I hope you linked the wrong cooler. That cooler is a tube and fin design, which isnt as good as a bar and plate. Also, its 10X16X5, thats HUGE.

 

[Spoolin98]

Our oil filter housings have an oil thermostat in them that opens and lets the oil go through the cooler at the appropriate time.

Personnally since my car will be mostly running full out at either Road Course of Track, Im going with a Setrab Oil Cooler P/N 125-12 7 1/2" high x 8 1/4" wide. It has 25 rows in it. Also using 12an Lines for maximum Flow and Capacity.

I was thinking about going that size but I went a bit smaller, the next size down, I went with 5 1/2 X 8 1/4 X 2 with -8AN

 

[DsM KiD4]

whats wrong with that design? will it not work or something? im new to this air cooler stuff ### i have a 92.. can anyone 2nd him?

 

[DsM KiD4]

ok i cancelled that previous order and got this cooler.. is this better?http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=BMM%2D70265&N=700+%2D128262+115&autoview=sku

 

[Spoolin98]

ok i cancelled that previous order and got this cooler.. is this better?http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=BMM%2D70265&N=700+%2D128262+115&autoview=sku

The first cooler would work, but its way too big.

The second one you picked is def. a better designed cooler. I still dont like the dimensions but thats up to you. Your going to need to order to 1/2" NPT to -8AN adapters for the cooler to make it work.

 

[DsM KiD4]

ya the rep that helped me the 2nd time got those npt to an fittings orderd for me. there isnt too much info on air/oil coolers for dsm's on the net so thanks for your help spoolin. ill post some pics in here once i get them from ups..

 

[Spoolin98]

Not a problem, glad I could help. There is a lot of info on external coolers its just that everyone has different setups and its hard to firgure out what to do for your own. I just ordered my cooler and did all the research, so its fresh in my mind.