99's don't get c-walk?

[heavyD]

Originally posted by ItsStockOfficer
No, the walking correction in mid 92 has more to do with a bearing changed then a machining change. Turbo charging really has no large effect on Cwalk, and sr20's dont do it 10% of the damn time.

Turbo charging has no effect on crankwalk? Has someone taken their stupid pill today? You don't think an added 15 - 20 psi pressure in the cylinder stresses the crankshaft? There is a reason modded cars have a better (or more accelerated) chance of getting crankwalk.

 

[BUCK]

Originally posted by Tallen You can get crankwalk...if anyone says otherwise its BS.

Soooooo - it's kinda like AIDS?

 

[99spydersilver]

I think the CW might be coming to my car 99 Spyder. Most of the symptom mentioned on the article posted in the FAQ is starting to happen. Drop of RPM, hard to shift, clutch pressure being very inconsistent, etc... AND I DIDN"T EVEN MODIFY ANYTHING ON MY CAR, and one more thing, MY CAR IS NOT A TURBO!!

EVERY SINGLE CAR CAN GET IT!! I am going to have mine check up at the dealer today, or at least go to the dealer and build some relationship, hopefully I can get this thing done for free.

 

[ckozlgod]

True any car can get CW but I never heard of any N/T eclipse getting it...maybe your the first?


Mileage on the 99 has nothing to do with it, there are MANY 99's by now that have over 100k and you still don't hear about it. Besides it can really happen at any mileage, more likely over 60k.

If your worried about it then don't get a dsm, it's that simple. My car(mazda mx-6) has atx problems, but does it worry me? no...that be silly if I let it.

If you want to get one, then just take the precautions listen on the CW site.Oil squirter etc...


It is not as common as you may think.The reason why it seems that way is because once some does get CW, they run on here and talk about it,but what you don' realize is that MOST of them do not get it.You don't see people making threads saying "I don't have CW...yipee!" do you?

 

[Groomz]

Originally posted by ckozlgod
True any car can get CW but I never heard of any N/T eclipse getting it...maybe your the first?


Mileage on the 99 has nothing to do with it, there are MANY 99's by now that have over 100k and you still don't hear about it. Besides it can really happen at any mileage, more likely over 60k.

If your worried about it then don't get a dsm, it's that simple. My car(mazda mx-6) has atx problems, but does it worry me? no...that be silly if I let it.

If you want to get one, then just take the precautions listen on the CW site.Oil squirter etc...


It is not as common as you may think.The reason why it seems that way is because once some does get CW, they run on here and talk about it,but what you don' realize is that MOST of them do not get it.You don't see people making threads saying "I don't have CW...yipee!" do you?

Exactly. Every crankwalk thread I come across I let people know I have a 2G thats in specs @ 130,000 miles. Take care of your car and you should be fine. IF it happens, get a new motor ( 6 bolt ) and move on.

Now I'm going to go worry about more important things like asteroids hitting the planet or winning the lottery.

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

Besides what Defiant said, the number of turbo Eclipses in 99 compared to the number of Eclipses was around 5% or even less. When you don't have too many to begin with, you aren't going to have many walking 99's...

 

[Rice Over Wheat]

AT eclipses have a far less chance than MT eclipses. Another reason I went that route.

ROW

 

[ckozlgod]

Yea but where's the fun in a ATX?:thumbdown

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

Originally posted by ckozlgod
Yea but where's the fun in a ATX?:thumbdown

Ask Russ Coxe what he thinks...

 

[ckozlgod]

Sorry I am new to the site,don't know who that is

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

Originally posted by ckozlgod
Sorry I am new to the site,don't know who that is

10.318 @ 144 on an 95 GSX AT

 

[logic]

Originally posted by ckozlgod
Sorry I am new to the site,don't know who that is

Here you go:

http://www.ddsm.org/vrcracing/eclipse.htm

Hard to argue with 567whp. Granted, it's really nothing more than a shell of a DSM at this point, but low 10-second passes with an automatic DSM transmission are impressive.

 

[ckozlgod]

Oh I didn't mean it that way, I meant it's no fun driving an automatic.

Driving a stick is always fun...at least for me

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

Originally posted by logic
Here you go:

http://www.ddsm.org/vrcracing/eclipse.htm

Hard to argue with 567whp. Granted, it's really nothing more than a shell of a DSM at this point, but low 10-second passes with an automatic DSM transmission are impressive.

True, but it's still a 4G63 powered 95 Eclipse Chassis...

 

[1fast97gsx]

crankwalk is a matter of luck and routine oil changes on the 2g. Any year can get it. I took my block apart because I'm doing some machoine work on it for more power and I checked out the crank and bearings. I have absolultly NO signs of crankwalk and no scrathes or scores or burns or anything in he bearings. Thrust bearing looks like new. My car had 60k on it and it's been modded since it's had 5k on it. It has been through a lot of runs at the track and it has an act 2600 soon to be a 2900. As long as you change the oil regularly and you let the car warm up and cool down before beating on it or shutting it down it's fine. Mine is a 97 which is supposedly 1 of the worse years for it and like I said ... absolutly no signs whatsoever. Just take care of your car and with a little luck you won't get it.

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

Originally posted by 1fast97gsx
crankwalk is a matter of luck and routine oil changes on the 2g. Any year can get it. I took my block apart because I'm doing some machoine work on it for more power and I checked out the crank and bearings. I have absolultly NO signs of crankwalk and no scrathes or scores or burns or anything in he bearings. Thrust bearing looks like new. My car had 60k on it and it's been modded since it's had 5k on it. It has been through a lot of runs at the track and it has an act 2600 soon to be a 2900. As long as you change the oil regularly and you let the car warm up and cool down before beating on it or shutting it down it's fine. Mine is a 97 which is supposedly 1 of the worse years for it and like I said ... absolutly no signs whatsoever. Just take care of your car and with a little luck you won't get it.

I'd say your theories are sound, but I think even people who are dilligent about changing the oil and regular maintenance are still going to get the CW. From the people I have talked to and the things I have read, it's a clearance issue with bad specifications... Maybe things changed in 98 and 99.. I have no idea..

 

[1fast97gsx]

the theory I believe in is the clogged oil squirters. Magnus had an article that the 2gs get crankwalk because the oil squirters aren't sufficient and easily get clogged. I think this is the most believable theory since it doesn't make sense that only a small number of 2g dsms get CW .. so it can't be that they just used the wrong bearings or messed up with the machine work. That seems more like a 1 time thing not something that will happen, then get changed back to the right bearings, then the wrong ones again .. then the right ones again. ( some walk every year some don't ) That just doesn't make any sense to me.

The reason I believe the oil squirters and changing the oil often theory is because once oil stays in the motor longer it starts to thicken and collect dirt and particles. I think this eventually clogs the squirters and in turn doesn't give the thrust bearing / crank enough lubrication so it starts to wear and walk. If you have a clean motor and change oil often there is no reason these things should clog and then if this theory is correct also no reason you should develop CW, which I hope is true as I am going the built 7 bolt route

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

From what I have heard of the people who used the thrust and crank bearing kits that utilized the dowells haven't had any issues... Those kits are made for clearance issues with the stock design. The crank is secure and snug and doesn't get a chance to wear out those bearings. I don't think anyone has it 100% nailed down yet (CW that is). As bad a reputation as the 7bolt has, with the right aftermarket upgrades, there is no reason that you can't make it as strong a motor as the 6bolt, IMO...

 

[1fast97gsx]

which dowels are you referring to? I am building my 7 bolt right now so I'm just curious. Thanks.

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

http://www.crco.com/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?15X376544

Try that...

 

[logic]

Also see MachV's page for a few more details:

http://www.machv.com/conracmbcadk.html

This is definitely on list of things to do when I get my bottom end apart. I may not think too highly of inflated crankwalk statistics, but I'm not going to pass up a cheap piece of insurance. ($50 is cheap when you're looking at the total cost of an engine build, frankly.)

 

[1fast97gsx]

explain how your post is ANY more helpful than any of the other ones on these 2 pages?

 

[ckozlgod]

oh man this was a waste of bandwidth. all the kid asked was if 99's can get cw and you turn it into a 2 page debate. Crankwalk this crankwalk that just shutup already. stop living in fear of CW. o and the kid who had a nightmare about crankwalking how in the hell do yuo ahve a nightmare liek that jeez you must truly be afraid of it to have a nightmare. if your that afraid of it buy a 6bolt there not expensive at all.

Wow, well said...
Very helpful by the way
I guess?:thumbdown

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

Originally posted by Eliminat0r
oh man this was a waste of bandwidth. all the kid asked was if 99's can get cw and you turn it into a 2 page debate. Crankwalk this crankwalk that just shutup already. stop living in fear of CW. o and the kid who had a nightmare about crankwalking how in the hell do yuo ahve a nightmare liek that jeez you must truly be afraid of it to have a nightmare. if your that afraid of it buy a 6bolt there not expensive at all.

What a waste of 10 seconds it was to read your post.. Can I have it back please... If you are gonna hate, keep it to yourself.. There are plenty of other people who are getting information out of this thread...