95 GS Vs 88 Firebird Which would you choose?

[nelapse]

I have a 95 Gs and I spent alot of time a money on that car. I bought thius 88 firebird ttop for 400 bucks. It has a V6 though. What would you do. Spend the money and hook up the eclipse or spend the money and drop a 350 in it? Help me out here... did i make a mistake and buy this car?

 

[Chromespyder]

personally i would go with the firebird. you can drop a varierty of engines in it. i know some LS series engines will fit.

with the camaro(firebird, they are the same), you have about the same kind product market the eclipse has. although you will have about the same number of BS products. but, you can have a carb or TFI injection. with the firebird on v-8 power, tuning it is really a no-brainer.

but, then again, this is my opinion. you really dont have to take it.

by the way, what does it look like? you could make a real sleeper out of it, if it needs body work done to it.

 

[jammer]

id also go with the firebird. dont get me wrong, i love eclipses, but something just strikes me wrong about a non-turbo eclipse. to me, it defeats the purpose. but what do i know? $.02 -jam

 

[SUPER fly TSI]

i would look at gas milage but i would love to have a rwd car in the snow

 

[BaddAssGst]

depends what your looking to do with it. yeah the eclipse can look alot nicer, but you could also have that firebird hauling ass, depending on which motor you swap

like jammer said, it doesn't mean much, but it's my .02 cents.

 

[iowaboostin]

It comes down to what you want: Speed or Looks? Yeah sure, people have put a LOT of money into non-turbo DSMs and got them somewhat quick, but if you can get a decent amount from selling the Eclipse, and put it all into the Firebird (minus the $700 it cost), it'd be hella quicker. I've got nothing against v8's, but Firebirds have just never caught my eye though. My .02

 

[housegsx]

I have my eclipse and a 94 vette. I never drive the vette. I put 1500 miles on it in 1 1/2 yrs. Cars like that and firebirds/camaros are beasts and not fun to drive except in a strait line. Your eclipse is going to be a better every day car in my opinion. Sure it might be cheaper and easier to make the firebird fast, but that's all it will probably be...fast. That gets old though and you'll miss the comfort and looks of the eclipse. Then there is the pain of finding a strong v8 and good 6 speed. It's a lot of work for a 88 firebird. Any pics of either car?

 

[spades_gsx]

drop the 3.8l turbo motor in that firebird! eff the 350.

 

[kyledykstra]

I'd take the Eclipse, 3rd gens are dogs, and putting a decent engine in the car will cost too much money for too little payout.

 

[spades_gsx]

I'd take the Eclipse, 3rd gens are dogs, and putting a decent engine in the car will cost too much money for too little payout.

you honestly have never seen a turbo t/a run i assume! very, very quick! some motor as a grand national, nothing but respect.

 

[DV8]

Honestly Who taught you how to buy cars??? you have a v6 Firebird, and a eclipse GS.
I would sell both and either buy a turbo car or a V8 car already. unless you have lots of money and time to spend swapping parts. just my opinion

 

[sonicnofadz]

Honestly Who taught you how to buy cars??? you have a v6 Firebird, and a eclipse GS.
I would sell both and either buy a turbo car or a V8 car already. unless you have lots of money and time to spend swapping parts. just my opinion

Yeah seriously. You could of had a fast awd 1G car by now. How much displacement does the GS have? 1.8L ?! The firebird probably looks like arse but I'm willing to bet it will beat your little non turbo rice motor.

 

[kyledykstra]

you honestly have never seen a turbo t/a run i assume! very, very quick! some motor as a grand national, nothing but respect.

Actually, I almost bought a GN instead of my Talon. Sure a turbo T/A is fast, but a v6 fbody (of any generation), is slow. And swapping a motor is a PITA, especially going from a v6 to a v8. Now, if he can find or build up a turbo 3.8 block, that'd be cool, but it would also probably be prohibitively expensive.

 

[dsmracer_1991]

Honestly Who taught you how to buy cars??? you have a v6 Firebird, and a eclipse GS.
I would sell both and either buy a turbo car or a V8 car already. unless you have lots of money and time to spend swapping parts. just my opinion

I second that. i would just trade them both for a turbo 1g awd. my.02

 

[Defiant]

GMs are shit.

 

[mysticfire6602]

GMs are shit.

but what about these great cars:

oldsmobile tornado
oldsmobile cutlass supreme
pontiac firebird
pontiac trans am GTA
pontiac GTO Judge
pontiac tempest
pontiac fiero
chevy corvette
chevy impala
chevy monte carlo
buick sky lark

need i say more?

 

[Chromespyder]

but what about these great cars:

oldsmobile tornado
oldsmobile cutlass supreme
pontiac firebird
pontiac trans am GTA
pontiac GTO Judge
pontiac tempest
pontiac fiero
chevy corvette
chevy impala
chevy monte carlo
buick sky lark

need i say more?

yeah really. this is the only thing that bothers me out here. people with imports, have norespect for muscle cars. i had at one time a 1968 Ford LTD w/a 390. ran like crap,(before i put the 700cfm edelbrock carb on it) but it was a beast. beat many, many imports from a standstill to the speed limit.(if i got to not bog) you cant say that you're not imtimadated by a car that twists from all the torque when it revs at you.

i ant saying i'm hating on imports, but show some respect. i've seen a guy with a civic try to take on a mustang mach 1. talk about being owned. then he had the nerve to give his "ricer" excuses. how sad.


anyways, try to get that engine turbo'd if it isn't in terrible shape. GN's i've seen onthe track are insanly fast. i raced one on test-n-tune night, i got 16.6, he got a low 12, plus his was pretty much stock.

 

[nelapse]

The way I see it, I could turbo my GS for 3k. For that i possibly get my 350 block and new internals for 600 bucks, spend the rest on a tranny and nickle and dime stuff. For the price of a turbo I could get a decent 350 hp beats me...

 

[WHite97RS]

Spend the 3k on the new 572? or something like that crate motor, saw it in my g/fs dad's super chevy mag

 

[sonicnofadz]

The way I see it, I could turbo my GS for 3k. For that i possibly get my 350 block and new internals for 600 bucks, spend the rest on a tranny and nickle and dime stuff. For the price of a turbo I could get a decent 350 hp beats me...

If you ask me, its going to cost more than $3000 to have a properly setup turbo system on a 420a. This is because your going to have fork out all the cash on a turbo, manifold, intake, intercooler, and exhaust, PLUS a new engine. Why a new engine? The naturally aspirated 420a will NOT take much boost before it is totally destroyed (because of the high compression pistons) so you will need to rebuild your block along with everything else. If you choose not to rebuild your block, and use your stock block, don't expect it to last long, and don't expect see anything but 200-230 hp.
SOOOoo....I recommend building up the ol clunker or maybe sell the GS and buy a turbo dsm.

 

[oldman]

Honestly Who taught you how to buy cars??? you have a v6 Firebird, and a eclipse GS.
I would sell both and either buy a turbo car or a V8 car already. unless you have lots of money and time to spend swapping parts. just my opinion

 

[Defiant]

yeah really. this is the only thing that bothers me out here. people with imports, have norespect for muscle cars.

DSMs are American cars. I have respect for what used to be muscle cars, I just have no like for them. Too heavy, too big, too sloppy. Straight-line speed isn't my cup of tea. The question was "Which would you choose?", and my answer was in that light.
If you like the old muscle cars, you're welcome to my share. I'd take a nice 510 over any of them, but that's me.