94 Eagle Talon ES vs 98 Honda Civic Si

[trixtert]

A buddy of mine just bought a 1998 Honda Civic Si and he wants to see just how quick his car is. He has a cold air intake in and the rest is stock. He challeged me to a race. My car is pretty much stock except for wires and plugs and all around maintenance. Which car should win.

 

[disturbed]

Hate to say it but the si will pull you pretty good man.

 

[trixtert]

WOW!!!

Really thats weird man like The Si makes around 130hp the talon makes 135hp so no real difference there. And the Civic will be a bit lighter but again not by that much. Willthe Civic win because of the cold air or is the Talon just to weak

 

[disturbed]

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Spec_Glance.aspx?modelid=1354&trimid=3724&src=VIP#specs

hmm looks like they make 160 hp to me? maybe that site is wrong but i still think the si will pull you a good one.

 

[dsmmyth]

This may get locked because it's "bench racing" but the Si should win. Lighter car, better hp to weight ratio.

 

[97eagletalonesi]

yeah from what i hear those si put out at least 160 or alittle more

 

[hkdl]

I hate bench racing but I just had a match up like this the other day. The damn SI walked all over me. I felt better a couple hours later when some dip in a integra reved on me.

 

[trixtert]

WOW 160hp from a Hona Civic!!!!

Thats ridiculous so maybe i'll make up some excuse and not race him till next summer by which I hope to lighten up the car a bit (lighen hood no tire,jack) and I also plan to have a Cold Air Intake a 2 and 1/4 inch straight through exhaust. And maybe a Piggy Back or some high lift cams. By that point I'm hopin for maybe around 165 or a 170. Speaking of Cams anybody know any manufacturer that makes solid cams for a decent price.

 

[trixtert]

Well I checked out the link from disturbed and your right they make 160hp the one on the site is a 99 but I dont think much changed from 98 to 99. But that car only has a 1.6L engine how does it make such horsepower.

 

[smokey90gsx]

V-TEC!!!!!!!!! j/k

 

[Royalty]

it has better stickers than us. and we all know vinyl makes hp

 

[Eagle_Summit]

WOW 160hp from a Hona Civic!!!!

Thats ridiculous so maybe i'll make up some excuse and not race him till next summer by which I hope to lighten up the car a bit (lighen hood no tire,jack) and I also plan to have a Cold Air Intake a 2 and 1/4 inch straight through exhaust. And maybe a Piggy Back or some high lift cams. By that point I'm hopin for maybe around 165 or a 170. Speaking of Cams anybody know any manufacturer that makes solid cams for a decent price.

i dont think your gonna get 165-170hp from just cams and exhaust and cai. if you can go from 135-170 with just that, let me know.

 

[bkblazen2003]

hondas make so much power on smaller engines becuase honda is smart enough to produce their cars with fairly high compression on a stock motor. Their is a rare n/t talon 1g out their that had higher compression pistons and also a turbo intake cam. it made 165 stock. To bad there were only 250 made.

Go and race him if you have a 5spd. you may be a better driver and win even though he is making more power. But you shouldn't really consider a serious race(money race) with your car till you atleast do your intake and exhuast. the 2.0 n/t can be pretty fast if you know how to launch and shift right. Last week i kept up with a v6 mustang from launch until 65-70mph than it beat me. And i only have cold air intake , hacked maf, crocked mount n1 muffler on custom piping, blocked egr and adjustable coilover conversion coils. If i had a turbo intake cam, performance clutch, header and light weight pulleys, i would have beat it.

 

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