2g...evo???

[talon4show]

I was thinking something the other day and I am seeking an answer from anyone who knows. Would anything from an Evolution fit in a 2G? Like could the motor or tranny bolt right up? This is probably a dumb question but I was just wondering. Thanks

 

[Turbocharged]

No. The engine, turbo, and transmission face the opposite direction as our cars.

 

[Diplomat]

There are few differences between the EVO VIII motor and a DSM 4G63. There wouldn't be much point to the swap. If there were any outstanding [and inexpensive] OE EVO parts that would drop into your motor and create significant gains, it would be in a FAQ somewhere.

Now if you can figure out how get that 6-speed tranny from the EVO MR to fit in a DSM...

 

[eazy]

did mistu mirror the engine for a reason? I mean the evo III was just like our cars ...?

 

[1fast97gsx]

what a worthless thread... Pop the hoods on both cars, take a look and then make your decision. The engine and tranny are flipped, however things such as the MAF, FMIC, bov and probably a few other things can be fitted into a dsm. Why would anyone want to? Not a clue.

 

[eazy]

:thumbdown

 

[EvolutionR]

Ive seen the Whole thing done In a White GSX it had a whole Evolution Swap and It ran a high 12 with little mods... But then again Hearing you guys Saying it cant be done Means nothing.. Just like the Thread a while ago "1G AWD Tranny Switched into a 2G AWD CANT BE DONE".... Well Thats weird because i have a 95 Talon TSI that now has a 1G Tranny and Transfer Case..... So for all you Newbies Like i once was... Only Listen to these People if they Tell you how to do something NEVER if they Tell you It cant Be Done... Because Everything Can be done..... The Question is Will you Get off your Lazy Ass to do it?? Good Luck It can be done...

 

[Diplomat]

With a torch and a plasma cutter, you could put a Dodge Viper front clip on a DSM as well. It can be done. No one is saying it can't. However, as mentioned above, an EVO 8 in a DSM would not be a drop-in or bolt-up modification. There would be quite a bit of fabrication involved.

The reason all of the responses have been against this pairing is that you could spend half of the money, time and effort in building an equal or better performing DSM motor. It's not because of any prejudice towards EVO's. Hell, most owners of aging DSM's would probably buy one if they'd make a ####ing TWO DOOR! Are you listening, Mitsubishi? Make one, or I swear to god I'll buy a ####ing Ford!

 

[1fast97gsx]

Hell, most owners of aging DSM's would probably buy one if they'd make a ####ing TWO DOOR! Are you listening, Mitsubishi? Make one, or I swear to god I'll buy a ####ing Ford!

Ford?! :thumbdown ..... Get a chevy

 

[ronin807]

a Ford.......now that's something I CAN"T do........The Lure of the new 4g63 is obvious, it is a better bolt for bolt motor. But the amount of time and money make it completely impractical. If you have access to both cars and a fully tricked out fab shop and buttloads of free time to wastego ahead and do it up. I always think it's cool when someone with lot's of money to burn does something crazy for the hell of it and it turns out cool (twin engine Tiburon anybody?) but for us regular joes it's just not practical. Seriously if you think about it the money it would cost for the entire Evo drivetrain, all the fab work, the cost of your own DSM plus time involved to remove the enitre DSM motor and drivetrain, you might as well by a '06 Evo MR, it's probably gonna come close to costing the same minus loan interest... But i digress, inovation should be encouraged not scorned. If that was the case we'd all still be sitting around a fire beating up 'ol Ugthug the caveman for his stupid wheel idea....

 

[Squackdiddy]

four doors are hot.

 

[gixrman]

Anyone see the MONSTER GARAGE episode were they shove a new 350Z drive train into a old datsan 510. Now that is a "I have a$$ loads of cash and tools what can I do?" idea.

 

[ronin807]

But it's cool though, I love watching that stuff, all show and lot's of go is cool for that older stuff street rods and such.

 

[Revolution]

Ok let us not forget that the evo 1/2/3 share the same layout as the dsm 2g.

What makes the evo better aside from the slightly bigger turbo and injectors/intercooler is theit awd systems.

The evo'1/2/3 dont have open diffs in the front or viscous couplers in the center but true 1.5 clutch type lsd' wich offer better over all performance.

P.s As I found out earliewr yes you can interchange all three lsd' between the evo 3 and 2g.

So Who said the parts couldnt be transfered? P.s the oem mitso evo parts are upgrades for the dsm just like upgrading our brakes with the oem vr4 parts.

Dont post stupid comments in this thread as to why an evo 8 part wont bolt up , If he was that much of a noob he would have posted in the proper directory.

Have fun and play nice kids.

 

[ronin807]

..not to start some argument on here but..... Yes the first 3 evo's are the same layout and parts should be as interchangable as those from the galant. Those aren't really anybetter than the dsm 4g63, exceptions made for the bigger turbo, intercooler... But it's become obvious that the evo 8 4g63 is a superior design. higher survivableHP levels on the stock block upwards of 600 i believe. should say alot about the design, the elimination or the return to the normal rare occurance of crankwalk. I would consider these an improvement over the original design. and i'm sure there are other points to be made in favor of the newer 4g63.

 

[Revolution]

..not to start some argument on here but..... Yes the first 3 evo's are the same layout and parts should be as interchangable as those from the galant. Those aren't really anybetter than the dsm 4g63, exceptions made for the bigger turbo, intercooler... But it's become obvious that the evo 8 4g63 is a superior design. higher survivableHP levels on the stock block upwards of 600 i believe. should say alot about the design, the elimination or the return to the normal rare occurance of crankwalk. I would consider these an improvement over the original design. and i'm sure there are other points to be made in favor of the newer 4g63.

Ok If your going to state that the evo 8 motors are some type of super duper (supra like) hard ass stock engines that can go 600 hp and up just by what addressing the bolt ons and not the internals ,then my friend I must say cocain is a dangerous drug.

No NO no . First off I will agree with some previous post in this thread that for the same amount (or even less) money I could build my own wicked /better dsm engine and not have to worry about proper engine mounts and what not.

Remember that dsm chassis are enforced to hold the engines and trans the way they sit now , so why try and flip everything ? It's stupid.

You want power and driveability stroke the engine to a 2.3 L get A good turbo like the evo 3 16g and build the rest of the car up.

The us evo's dont have the clutch type center lsd but rather a viscous type , the us evo frails in comparison to the jdm evo for many more reasons wich sucks but what can you do it's still an evo right.

I look at the evo 1/2/3 models as a parts bin that could help me out in my own build up ,just like I look at the vr4 . P.s did you know you could use the coil on plug system from a 2jz engine for our dsm's?

Think about it their are always parts that can pe interchanged , it's all a matter of money , but is it worth the amount being spent , now thats the question that poeple should be asking themselves.

P.s nope no argument started.

 

[GreenStreak]

Anyone have a pic of the 2g with the evo VIII conversion done to it?

 

[91gstman]

Ive seen the Whole thing done In a White GSX it had a whole Evolution Swap and It ran a high 12 with little mods... But then again Hearing you guys Saying it cant be done Means nothing.. Just like the Thread a while ago "1G AWD Tranny Switched into a 2G AWD CANT BE DONE".... Well Thats weird because i have a 95 Talon TSI that now has a 1G Tranny and Transfer Case..... So for all you Newbies Like i once was... Only Listen to these People if they Tell you how to do something NEVER if they Tell you It cant Be Done... Because Everything Can be done..... The Question is Will you Get off your Lazy Ass to do it?? Good Luck It can be done...

Anyone have a pic of the 2g with the evo VIII conversion done to it?[/QUOTE


would like to see pics of this conversion to u have a link to this EvolutionR? and how is ur 95 with ur 1g tranny this front wheel or awd thanks man

 

[ronin807]

Now I wasn't even remotely trying to say it's some kind of ultra motor, I'm not stupid. I just was stating with the passage of time and ass loads of research, it's a better block. They don't refer to our engines as the venerable 4g63 for nothing, it's been around for a while..... it's outdated technology. that's why it's not used anymore. It's a good motor, but it's old. and yes cocaine is a very dangerous drug.

 

[evolvingGS-t]

Yes the 4g63 is an old motor, but the design and engineering isn't. Like I have mentioned in other threads that questioned EVO parts usage, I used to own an EVO and role around with some other EVO owners that were pushing in excess of 475whp on stock internals and a few bolt ons. So if you ask me, I'd agree with some of the members, that yes, the EVO engine is a type of "ultra motor."

I would have loved to see that type of power on my 1g fwd or 2g fwd turbo