2.3l mod help

[Mulfordautomotive]

Trying to find out if I can run this build with stock cams and turbo, I just got the car and the engine is still apart from the engine shop that did the mech. work on it.
car came with stock engine but it had a rod knocking so trying to see if I can use stock stuff on the 2.3l build or if I HAVE to run big turbo and bigger cams.

also I am a mechanic just have not done this build before.

 

[AshyBone]

You can run stock everything but the turbo probably wont be able to keep up with the engine. You'll see faster boost but it might fall on its face. The cams are fine. Most people wont upgrade cams till other work is done.

 

[Mulfordautomotive]

well I am looking at a kit that comes with a 16g, and FMIC with all the hardpipe for the car but what do I need to change to run the 16g with that 2.3l. I am guessing FPR, 550cc injectors, and a SAFC 2 or Nano?, I have Data Logging equipment in my laptop since I run my own shop. Also Head was ported and polished, wiesco pistons, matched bearings and block was bored 20 over. everything was balanced also. And 3inch custom exhaust

 

[boost97gst]

Think BIG . especially with a 2.3L. You want atleast hx35 size, IMO an hx40 or equivalent. Itll spool faster than a 2L for sure and kick ass. A 16g is THE turbo everyone has and it IS an all around performer but if you want a 2.3L i assume you shooting for no less than 500whp. A 16g just isnt suited great for that extra 300ccs.

Go with dsmlink or AEM EMS as well. Just buy it once and be done with it. Too many, myself included, buy too small a turbo, too small injectors, etc.... when we start out and quickly realize how addictive horsepower is. Im done ranting.

The simple answer is yes i believe besides your crank, rods, pistons, everything else can be stock on a stroked 4g63

 

[Calan]

An E3 16G on a 2.3L is just evil from light-to-light, but you'll run out of air up top if you push it, especially with stock cams.

Personally, I would go with a little bigger turbo (20g, HX35/40), and at least FP2 (272) cams if you want to get the best balance out of that stroker.

 

[Mulfordautomotive]

well the Engine was something someone else started and it has not been put together yet. everything is still sealed in box or bags . I have 3 engines for the car including the not built yet 2.3l but I just want to get in running and it would be my Daily driver. not looking to go nuts with the car yet just make it run well and still kick the Sh*t out of the Civics around my town . My almost stock laser flys as it is but trying to figure out best option for this car. Stock engine had a rod knock so last owner pulled it with plans to stick the 2.3l in but he gave up and got a Built 1969 camaro ss so now I have the car

 

[BogusSVO]

Since you have 3 engines, you should have 3 pairs of cams. Find the biggest ones you have on hand.

There should be a large cast in letter just behind #1 cam journal.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/cyl...5135-camshaft-identification-information.html

 

[n0de]

well the Engine was something someone else started and it has not been put together yet. everything is still sealed in box or bags . I have 3 engines for the car including the not built yet 2.3l but I just want to get in running and it would be my Daily driver. not looking to go nuts with the car yet just make it run well and still kick the Sh*t out of the Civics around my town . My almost stock laser flys as it is but trying to figure out best option for this car. Stock engine had a rod knock so last owner pulled it with plans to stick the 2.3l in but he gave up and got a Built 1969 camaro ss so now I have the car

Ok so now that I understand your intentions with this car I can safely say that you will want a turbo no smaller than a 20g. If you want something that is cost effective and will suit the 2.3l for low-mid power then you will want the 20g or HX30(if running the HX you will need to search for proper oil pressure and where to run the oil line from).

I can tell you that I've been looking into getting a 2.3 in my talon for the last 2 weeks (picking my new 2.3l longblock motor on the 22nd ) and I cant tell you how many people in threads have said they would never go back to a 2.0. You might just want to turn this car into more than you have in mind for it.

Just sayin'

 

[boost97gst]

Like craig said, and i forgot to mention, big cams would REALLY help a 2.3L breathe and be a perfect combo for a larger frame turbo. Id suggest kelford 272s as ive heard they are the most aggressive 272s made. But this is hear say, im not 100%

 

[Mulfordautomotive]

Thanks guys but I want to keep the MPG up also, and be able to run midgrade when its used for a daily driver, I know alot of the guys race their cars and stuff all the time but I don't intend to use the car for that all the time, and only 2 engine have cams one set is stock 1g, other is stock 2g. also what is best way to fix rod knock on a stock 7 bolt, I hear long as crank and rods are not damaged to just toss a $300.00 master kit in with the right size bearings will do the job. That work as long as everything still in spec? Also I don't want to add new computer, just trying to make car run, if I have to use the 2.3l instead of fixing stock engine

 

[BogusSVO]

Depends on how bad the rod knock is.

If the rods are not black from being burnt, or scored from bearing spin, the rods being resized will be ok

The oil galley balls in the rod throws of the crank, really should come out so all the crud can be cleaned out, so at prime/start up/break in the fresh oil will not carry that crud right into the bearings.

What head are you going with on the 2.3? the 1g or 2g head?

 

[1Badvan]

Well if your worried about gas your going to want a mid pump turbo or bigger like what was stated by others, 20g-TD06H, 50 trim, etc. etc. The smaller the turbo the faster the spool and the more fuel you will be using. Anything 16g or smaller is going to spool extremely fast on a 2.3, probably full boost @ 3k rpms or less. With a bigger turbo if you stay out of it, you will retain your gas mileage until you get on it since it will start spooling and reaching full boost higher in the rpm range.

Just something to think about.

 

[n0de]

1Badvan you have my dream sleeper car. Just sayin.

 

[Calan]

Thanks guys but I want to keep the MPG up also, and be able to run midgrade when its used for a daily driver, I know alot of the guys race their cars and stuff all the time but I ...

You should sell that stroker to someone who will put it to good use.

 

[n0de]

^^This

 

[YZFR1]

Trying to find out if I can run this build with stock cams and turbo, I just got the car and the engine is still apart from the engine shop that did the mech. work on it.
car came with stock engine but it had a rod knocking so trying to see if I can use stock stuff on the 2.3l build or if I HAVE to run big turbo and bigger cams.

also I am a mechanic just have not done this build before.

I know someone that runs a stroker with large cams and OEM turbo and loves it. I also know someone that runs a stroker with stock head and cams and a large turbo, they are not complaining also. You would be just fine with it

 

[Mulfordautomotive]

I know someone that runs a stroker with large cams and OEM turbo and loves it. I also know someone that runs a stroker with stock head and cams and a large turbo, they are not complaining also. You would be just fine with it

The stroker has a ported and polished head with 3 ang. job on it, soo do I still need to do ecu mods if I just rock stock cams and say a 16g or 20g with a FMIC?

 

[Calan]

The stroker has a ported and polished head with 3 ang. job on it, soo do I still need to do ecu mods if I just rock stock cams and say a 16g or 20g with a FMIC?

You ALWAYS need a way to datalog, and make adjustments to the ECU if you have anything much more than a completely stock car. Not going with a good tuning solution right out of the gate is just silly and asking for trouble IMO.

I've said it many times, but I think ECMLink should be the very first mod anyone does to these cars... if for no other reason than getting the most out of a stock setup while learning about EFI systems and how to tune.