1G RWD build

[RipperXX]

Looks like a nice drag build, good job! Whats the weight & balance now?

 

[RickClarke23]

im also curious what the biggest drawback of the awd was? at that power level what was the main weak point.

 

[ThunderChild]

im also curious what the biggest drawback of the awd was? at that power level what was the main weak point.

Most likely transmissions.

Awd is great when parts hold up, but being transverse mounted, compact and high hp, you've got to have a serious trans/t-case package to play, and still plan on breaking things. Everything downstream of the motor can become a liability at his power levels.

With rwd he can run an auto trans that is cheap to build, lots of accessory choices and loads up nicely. Among a plethora of other positives.

Looks great man, wish I had the time and money to do this! Maybe I'll fake it with my viscous coupler and welded diff in the future

 

[RickClarke23]

Yea That is for sure. I was just curious what the seemed to be the main thing he would have problems with. I know he is looking to push his car further than it has been, but I would be Satisfied with a 5.5 or so on the street. I was just looking to see if he maybe had some tips on trying to keep the drivetrain living the longest. I know the rear end is a problem and I wouldn't have a problem fabbing up the Live axle 8.8.

 

[bastarddsm]

Also the awd chassis doesn't respond to normal chassis tuning techniques. I think it becomes hard to get the car to hook up well at big power with AWD.

 

[biglady112]

I have been saying it for years AWD is not an advantage. Maybe to a point, on the street. At the track the playing feel is equalized. And you are right, big power AWD cars are terrible. Look at all the 8 second and 7 second cars skating all over the track.

 

[ThunderChild]

Also the awd chassis doesn't respond to normal chassis tuning techniques. I think it becomes hard to get the car to hook up well at big power with AWD.

exactly. if the parts were strong enough or cost effective for upgrade to do harder launches at high power, it would be another story.

I have been saying it for years AWD is not an advantage. Maybe to a point, on the street. At the track the playing feel is equalized. And you are right, big power AWD cars are terrible. Look at all the 8 second and 7 second cars skating all over the track.

depending on the track environment, if youre focusing on drag racing, youd be mostly right. however there are other racing classes i prefer awd in. also, for the mix of DD and weekend racecar, i like the awd.

at the same point, my next project is going to be RWD, v8 and very small. maybe 4-425 hp and 400 tq. but that will completely eliminate winter driving haha.

 

[RipperXX]

^ LS2 Miata? Those are beastly. I want to do one actually...

 

[abelebd]

Looks like a nice drag build, good job! Whats the weight & balance now?

Thanks, the weight is around 2200 with out driver and the balance was not great when I scaled it so i will likely have to shift some things around.

 

[abelebd]

As for the issues with the AWD setup the most common breakages were transmission gears and transfer cases. The chassis did work very well AWD with the solid rear end, it would go consistent low 1.2x 60'. The main reason I switched to RWD is to get more reliability. The cost was less to do it with a 2 speed PG than it was to switch to a 2G auto trans and use the Hollands performance aftermarket gears and new converter plus the cost of spare 300m transfer cases. On top of that I have dropped around 200lb from when the car was AWD.

 

[turbotalon1g]

I'm so glad you are posting up some of your work, it's always nice to see what you guys are up to.

Good luck with this, it looks amazing!!

 

[ThunderChild]

^ LS2 Miata? Those are beastly. I want to do one actually...

No mx3 hatchback.

Wait, Holland does aftermarket gears now? Looks like I need to start looking at their stuff more. They're local, see them at the strip in the summer all the time.

I bet that PG will be muuuuch nicer to load up on too.

 

[Spazz526]

Very clean, very nice! Great job!

 

[abelebd]

Here's a crappy cell phone video of it's first pass down the track RWD. Only ran WG boost of 15lbs to make sure it went straight and went 6.40@108

 

[weasel1G]

Good to see it moving

 

[Evo-Jr]

She's going to go little by little.. Glad you have it running already

 

[weasel1G]

Just saw you on YouTube 1320video, badass.

 

[sleeper1ga]

It's a good lookin car man and made a pretty quick pass!! Here's some photos I took of you at Streetcar Takeover-Indy!!! Sadly the pass I took video of was the pass that didn't go well, figure you don't want it posted, but if you want it I can send it to you.

 

[abelebd]

Cool, good pictures thanks for posting them.

 

[sleeper1ga]

No problem man, it was nice to see a dsm/4g63 repping at SCT as my gvr4 had title issues and was unable to make it. Hope to see you at some more events I cover!

 

[phizzalot]

Awesome build!!! Are you using an electric water pump? I see the block off plate for the factory waterpump and the plumbing done with the air to water intercooler but iam a little confused about how the rear portion is put together, in particular where the thermostat is.

Noice work!!

 

[JasonTSI91]

What is the rear end setup like? Thanks.

 

[godschylde777]

I started with the factory wiring harness and basically cut the plug connection for the ECU side off and started fresh from there.
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This is beyond Awsome. I am picking up an 87 Quest at the end of July, that after I finish Gracey is done (my 97 talon build), I will be doing a red 4g63 swap.

 

[turbotalon1g]

Updates?

 

[Joeschmo101]

If you were to guess, how much weight did you loose going to rwd?