1g Brake Upgrade with FD wheels

[1SIC1Gb]

So I have the single piston calipers up front and my braking is ok but staging the auto, I easily push through the brakes! I was really interseted in the VR4 fronts, however i dont know if they will fit my FD wheels?? Reading on the Evo forums, i noticed they get their factory Brembo's to clear using 20mm spacers in the front if you have the non reinforced FD wheels marked "50" on them which I have. I run no spacers front or rear now and the wheels look great on there, if i ran a 20mm spacer it would look like crap.


Whats my options here ? Would upgrading to the oem 2 piston fronts help me where i need? Will the VR4 brakes fit?


Thanks

 

[kchaazz]

The VR4 brakes arent likely to fit. If the car in question is the 94 TSI AWD in your profile, how is it that youve ended up with the small rotor, single piston front brakes, as the late 92 to 94 AWD cars came with the two piston setup up front? If you indeed have the single piston brakes somehow, Id go ahead and get some two piston calipers, get new rotors and some Hawk HPS pads and see how she stages up after that, its the cheapest and easiest route.

 

[1SIC1Gb]

The VR4 brakes arent likely to fit. If the car in question is the 94 TSI AWD in your profile, how is it that youve ended up with the small rotor, single piston front brakes, as the late 92 to 94 AWD cars came with the two piston setup up front? If you indeed have the single piston brakes somehow, Id go ahead and get some two piston calipers, get new rotors and some Hawk HPS pads and see how she stages up after that, its the cheapest and easiest route.

Yes it is a 94 TSI AWD, But I have no idea how it does have 1 piston calipers. The guy i got it from must have switched them out to the crappy 1's.

 

[daplatano91]

I would advise you to try pluming a vacuum pump into the equation before trying a new brake setup. I have single piston calipers with hawk pads on my 1g auto and it holds up to 4500 just fine.

 

[codeofdastreets]

I would advise you to try pluming a vacuum pump into the equation before trying a new brake setup. I have single piston calipers with hawk pads on my 1g auto and it holds up to 4500 just fine.

Agreed on the vaccum pump idea..You wire it to a switch to turn on when you want to use it, then hook it to the brake light switch thats on the brake petal.. Once you press the brake and you have the switch activated the pump would go on as soon as the brake Lights go on..

 

[1SIC1Gb]

Thats definately a good idea, I'll look into that for sure. It is time though really to replace my pads and the pass rear caliper has a weak return spring for the e brake so i need a new one. Thought of just overhauling the brakes while im that far.

Think i am just going to settle with the dual piston fronts and new rears on StopTech pads. Make me feel a lot better about these high speed runs!

 

[Steve93Talon]

Look into the Outlander brakes, they should clear the FD wheels fine and will give you a good upgrade.

 

[1SIC1Gb]

Look into the Outlander brakes, they should clear the FD wheels fine and will give you a good upgrade.

I did a little reading on the outlander brakes but it seems that they bolt right up to a 2g but the 1g's brake line attatches differntly. Im sure it could be modified .

 

[kchaazz]

Regarding Outlander brakes, you dont have to use the Outlander calipers, the calipers themselves are the same calipers used on the two piston 1G and 2G setups, so you can use 1G two piston calipers and just the outlander caliper mounting brackets in order to avoid having to change the brake hoses.

Edit: Also, since youve got the puny brakes, you may have a 15/16" brake master cylinder as well. The late 92- 94 AWD cars are supposed to have a 1" master cylinder, but who knows since youve got single piston brakes. You can place a small mirror on the underside of the master, and it should have either 15/16 or 1 cast on it. Since most 1G master cylinders leak (You can verify this by looking at the paint on the booster where the master bolts onto it- bubbled, peeling paint is indicative of a leak) you might want to grab a new one and get the 1" if your car doesnt have it. The larger master is better suited to the two piston calipers, though the 15/16" does work alright, just not as firm on the pedal.