16G or no?

[TurboB5]

Whats up guys , i just recently bought my first 1G Talon.

I was wondering if it has a 16G like the guy i bought it said. It says TDO5H on the intake side of the turbo, im just wondering if it is the stock or no. I did search , and came up with nothing. Am i using the stock trubo or no?

TIA

Joe

 

[andymoraitis]

The first generation Talons came with a 14B, which is the same cover used on the 16G turbos. If you were to get us some serial numbers, we could tell you if it's a 14B or 16G. An even easier way to tell is by pulling the intake off and looking at the compressor wheel. If you see twin blades, that indicates a 16G, while single blades are typical of a 14B.

In case you have a 16G and want to see the size, you can read the serials as follows:

49178 - 01520 = Small 16G
49178 - 01420 = Big 16G
49178 - 01470 = EVO III 16G

Please note that the serials above ONLY apply if someone hasn't changed the wheel and kept the existing cover, which is somewhat common.

Let me know if that helps,

Andy

 

[ddavisaf]

If dude said you have a 16G in the car then I would get him to write it down on something. There's a BIG difference in price and power with those turbos. He says 16G and it's got a 14b. Time to get some money from him. Seriously. A buddy of mine is going through the same thing right now.

 

[CyberEye]

Pull your intake hose off and look at the blades on the turbo. a 14b will look like it has single blades, 16g will have two blades on behind the other all the way around.

 

[TurboB5]

Pull your intake hose off and look at the blades on the turbo. a 14b will look like it has single blades, 16g will have two blades on behind the other all the way around.

ok ill do this tomarrow when i wake up...he said it wasnt a big 16G, but just a 16G with a ported 2G manifold.

when i bought the car it was only the second or third DSM i was in, both others having a 50 trim T3 and a 20G...so i didnt have much to compare the power to myself coming from a GT28RS Passat...i have never been in a 14B/16G 1G DSM...

so bear with me...the blades should look like this " // " and not like " / " going around circular...if that makes any sense at all. If i take off the heat shield on the mani would that make it easier to distinguish?

 

[andymoraitis]

so bear with me...the blades should look like this " // " and not like " / " going around circular...if that makes any sense at all. If i take off the heat shield on the mani would that make it easier to distinguish?

There's no need to take off the manifold heat shield and you're correct on the blade alignment. Really, all you need to do is remove the intake where it meets the cold side of the turbo and look. Other than that, the serial number reference I gave you also works. Take a flashlight and look on the housing. You'll see 49178 - 01xx20 and the two numbers inside the xx area will be stamped on.

Let us know what you find!

Andy

 

[TurboB5]

There's no need to take off the manifold heat shield and you're correct on the blade alignment. Really, all you need to do is remove the intake where it meets the cold side of the turbo and look. Other than that, the serial number reference I gave you also works. Take a flashlight and look on the housing. You'll see 49178 - 01xx20 and the two numbers inside the xx area will be stamped on.

Let us know what you find!

Andy

hey andy thanks for the help man...

so this is where i feel like a complete idiot and cannot find these #'s anywhere...so i see with the flashlight where the turbo is stamped TD05H, then in towards the turbo some more i see stamped letters and numbers, but nothing regarding what your saying...

is it somewhere im not looking... this is so frustrating cause i dont know wtf turbo im running and its driving me crazy

i could try and take the intake pipe off on the turbo but it just seems like a PITA with all the hoses in the way and the wastegate pipe and then sliding it off bla bla bla...i just wanna see where these stamped #'s are...if its the 14B it wouldnt even have these #'s stamped on it would it

 

[andymoraitis]

Maybe this will help out a bit.

Here's a shot of my turbo and you can see where the serial numbers are. These are found before the j-pipe and should be clearly visible, even with a stock intake setup. Get those numbers off and post them here so we can tell you for sure what it is. Also, it's really not too hard to yank off the intake and look at the blades on the wheel. At least you'll know what you have. To answer your question, yes, 14B's have serials on them as well (unless it was ground off).

Let us know!

Andy

 

[timm98gst]

mine says 49178-01300. what's that mean?

The first generation Talons came with a 14B, which is the same cover used on the 16G turbos. If you were to get us some serial numbers, we could tell you if it's a 14B or 16G. An even easier way to tell is by pulling the intake off and looking at the compressor wheel. If you see twin blades, that indicates a 16G, while single blades are typical of a 14B.

In case you have a 16G and want to see the size, you can read the serials as follows:

49178 - 01520 = Small 16G
49178 - 01470 = Big 16G
49178 - 01420 = EVO III 16G

Please note that the serials above ONLY apply if someone hasn't changed the wheel and kept the existing cover, which is somewhat common.

Let me know if that helps,

Andy

 

[ddavisaf]

Seems like you'll have more luck with the blades of the turbine. Lossen the clamp and pull real hard, it'll pop off, poke your finger in and see if you feel a double row of blades stacked or just one. Please make sure the car is cool when you stick your finger in it. Engines tend to burn skin.

Mind you also that serial numbers could possibly be misleading. I've got a 14b housing with an 18g cartridge soooo.... 16G's will also fit in a 14b housing (since it's the exact same housing I would hope it would at least.... )

 

[Jimmy Jr.]

There are even 20g's out there stuffed into the 16g housing.

Just take off your intake tube and feel the blades....if they are all the same height then you got ripped off, the inducer blades should vary in length.

 

[1993eclipseGS]

I'll attach pictures of the turbo's I have laying around my house, The middle one is a 16g, You can see the difference in the compressor wheel. The exhaust manifold is a 2g manifold, Notice the flange that bolts to the head. On a 1g manifold, The flange is not shaped like that at the top, It is shaped like this /'\ . Hope he didn't rip you off

 

[TurboB5]

Maybe this will help out a bit.

Here's a shot of my turbo and you can see where the serial numbers are. These are found before the j-pipe and should be clearly visible, even with a stock intake setup. Get those numbers off and post them here so we can tell you for sure what it is. Also, it's really not too hard to yank off the intake and look at the blades on the wheel. At least you'll know what you have. To answer your question, yes, 14B's have serials on them as well (unless it was ground off).

Let us know!

Andy

hey man i can see the 49178-0 but then i cant see any #'s following that. I looked but it seems like its further back then how you have yours pictured. This being said, if i can see the 49188-0...whatever the hell it is...does this conclude that i do, in fact, have a 16G like i was told?or do the 14B's also have this same serial # on them


Thanks again andy for the pic and the help man i appreciate it

 

[andymoraitis]

I did my research and 14B turbos are also marked 49178 (the last digits are different). The ONLY way to tell is to pull the intake and feel inside or shine a flashlight in there.

Sorry, but that's the best I can do!

Andy

 

[1993eclipseGS]

Just look at the pictures I posted, Then look at your car.

 

[oldman]

Why is this so difficult? WTF Enough people have told you to remove the intake pipe and check the blade, do it already.

 

[IHeartTurbo]

hey man i can see the 49178-0 but then i cant see any #'s following that. I looked but it seems like its further back then how you have yours pictured. This being said, if i can see the 49188-0...whatever the hell it is...does this conclude that i do, in fact, have a 16G like i was told?or do the 14B's also have this same serial # on them


Thanks again andy for the pic and the help man i appreciate it

Stop making this harder than it is and pull the intake off and look at the blades. You would've been done a long time ago.

 

[Goobdog]

Maybe this will help out a bit.

Here's a shot of my turbo and you can see where the serial numbers are. These are found before the j-pipe and should be clearly visible, even with a stock intake setup. Get those numbers off and post them here so we can tell you for sure what it is. Also, it's really not too hard to yank off the intake and look at the blades on the wheel. At least you'll know what you have. To answer your question, yes, 14B's have serials on them as well (unless it was ground off).

Let us know!

Andy

From the numbers you gave that would mean your turbo is an EVOIII but in your profile it says you have a big 16g ?

 

[andymoraitis]

From the numbers you gave that would mean your turbo is an EVOIII but in your profile it says you have a big 16g ?

Thanks for catching that! The EVO III is the 47 and the Big 16G is a 42 and this has been corrected in my earlier post.

Cheers!

Andy

 

[frigginlazer]

hey 1993eclipsegs, I just blew my stock turbo, wanna sell me one of your spares?