14B dyno record

[Kevin Jewer]

Doh! And the pic is right there... Thanks for straightening me out there.

 

[NosLaser]

Not calling BS or anything, but Bryan, that car was at the track the night I ran my Stang (less than a month ago) and he was running high 14's/low 15's at around 101-102mph.

Regards,

 

[Nos~4G63]

Ya he is never gonna hear the end of that one. The car was on 7psi at the time and making 270whp and he still couldnt go faster than 14.5 @ 104. The car was on a stock ecu and had 850s, using the translator to compensate was causing alot of timing advance 28degrees advance on pump gas. We had the car tuned well using a datalogger and we spent a few hours out on 27 but he changed some settings at the track and he couldn't make a clean pass. :thumbdown

The dyno sheet is on the Wall of fame at Cartek, and Im going to take a pic of his copy as soon as I get a chance so I can upload it for everyone. Also the vid is still coming as soon as the camera is repaired.

 

[diambo4life]

Bullshit, huh?

Here's the dyno sheet. read it and weap. And if you still don't believe I ran 10psi, given the number of witnesses from South Fla DSM that were at the dyno organized by members of the club, then I really don't give two sh!ts... though, had you looked at my mods list, you would have noticed the only difference isn't my pistons, asshat.

I COULDN'T run any higher boost than 10psi. When I ran 15psi on the street, I would hit fuel cut around 5200rpm. Lowered it to 10psi so I could take it as close to the rev limiter before running insanely lean... which I did anyway, and had to back off before redline.

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So I'm a "asshat" since I don't believe you made 26x WHP on a 14B @ 10psi? Thanks buddy I don't believe it. You can throw your little tantrum again (as expected :laugh: :laugh: ) I called BS from the mods you listed in your post and I stick by it. Go cry elsewhere.

Maybe if you show me your timeslip at that 10psi and I will maybe merit your claim. Happy tuning buddy. :laugh:

 

[Bohrn]

good job on those 14b numbers Very nice.

Anyone know who's made the most on pump gas, stock engine internals(no head porting or cams, no built motors) and no spray with a 14b?? This is the what I am after.

Last pass at the track, using HP calculators, I made 296 or something, but again, not a real dyno.

 

[myblack98gst]

dont know about his HP,

but there is a local guy here with a 1g awd.. It has a boost controller, 2g manifold, 2.5" downpipe.. he recently ran a 8.13 @ 83mph 1/8th mile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the car is a freak

 

[J92EGSX]

i made 270 whp and 270 ftlbs at 19psi on a ported 14b with a stock engine, stock fuel pump/ injectors, and stock sidemount. Using an Afc.

 

[stage2eclipse]

My name is Mike and I own the gst that made these numbers. I was very surprised to see these kind of numbers from my 14b as well. I was hoping for around 300hp, but I got a little more than I had expected. Finally I have the dyno sheet online to prove myself.

 

[Nos~4G63]

We are still waiting for the camera so we can upload the vids.

 

[95GST4G63]

Nice to see that you are finally posting on here Mike. Congratulations on the numbers. I'm sure that's hung up on ur wall. Get that vid on here or take it by my job so I can see it.

Mike

 

[ArcticTsi]

good job on those 14b numbers Very nice.

Anyone know who's made the most on pump gas, stock engine internals(no head porting or cams, no built motors) and no spray with a 14b?? This is the what I am after.

Last pass at the track, using HP calculators, I made 296 or something, but again, not a real dyno.

I ran 12.39 @ 112.66 with my 14b @ 18psi on 93 octane pump during the 2004 Forced Performance Shootout. No port work of any kind, stock bottom(pistons & all), stock head, stock cams, stock exhaust manny, stock intake manny, stock fuel pump(re-wire), stock 450's. go fast goodies-FMIC & BOV, downpipe & exhaust, MBC, MAF-T & 3.5 GM Maf(blow-by setup), homemade cold air intake. Ive yet to dyno the car. Anyways, she is back in storage again, hopefully for not as long as before.

Jose
ArcticTsi

 

[ryu]

I ran 12.39 @ 112.66 with my 14b @ 18psi on 93 octane pump during the 2004 Forced Performance Shootout. No port work of any kind, stock bottom(pistons & all), stock head, stock cams, stock exhaust manny, stock intake manny, stock fuel pump(re-wire), stock 450's. go fast goodies-FMIC & BOV, downpipe & exhaust, MBC, MAF-T & 3.5 GM Maf(blow-by setup), homemade cold air intake. Ive yet to dyno the car. Anyways, she is back in storage again, hopefully for not as long as before.

Jose
ArcticTsi

 

[DSMu4ia]

Use a good gauge to measure boost, something other than an Autometer gauge. They are not terribly accurate and could be why some people dyno "higher" on low boost than others dynoing at the same boost level.

As for the 14b dyno, good job.

The dyno plot looks weird, definately doesn't look like a 14b's spool numbers, especially on the juice. But I'm not a benchracer and I won't try to steal anyone's accomplishments.

 

[IMMORTALSPYDER]

There's a guy from around me that posts on here. I don't think he ever dyno'd his car, but he did run a 21.00 on a 14b. I'm guessing he would have put down pretty good numbers.

 

[DSMeclipse4G63]

you non belivers of a 14b make decent power at low boost have to realize, the 2g motor has mo0re compression and very well setup head compared to the 1g. Our heads may not flow AS MUCH but they flow well that and upped compression gives makes it somewhat possible. That and in fwd manual form it will make some good power.
Andrew

 

[DSMu4ia]

Ok, well since no one caught onto my post.

Why does the 14b take so long to spool? 4500rpm?

That's 50trim area. Even on the juiced pull the spool isn't much faster (like it should be on nitrous).

 

[ryu]

Ok, well since no one caught onto my post.

Why does the 14b take so long to spool? 4500rpm?

That's 50trim area. Even on the juiced pull the spool isn't much faster (like it should be on nitrous).

wow....thats strange...

 

[anconover]

you non belivers of a 14b make decent power at low boost have to realize, the 2g motor has mo0re compression and very well setup head compared to the 1g. Our heads may not flow AS MUCH but they flow well that and upped compression gives makes it somewhat possible. That and in fwd manual form it will make some good power.
Andrew

Hmm, the 2g head flows better than the 1g head now? I know some people are bent on it being a better design, but....


Thats 1 laggy 14b, must have a sock in the turbine housing.

 

[92redman]

Ok, well since no one caught onto my post.

Why does the 14b take so long to spool? 4500rpm?

That's 50trim area. Even on the juiced pull the spool isn't much faster (like it should be on nitrous).

That is probably an indication of a leaking wastegate or cracks around the flapper...

 

[diambo4life]

That and in fwd manual form it will make some good power.
Andrew

You are not making any sense. What does the drivetrain configuration have do with the HP output of the engine?

If the 2G head "flows as much" as you say, then why don't we have a bunch of 16G's running low 12's high 11's at 15psi?

I am still very sceptical about the whole thing. If it's as you state though, Congratulations! I just have never seen anything like that before.

 

[GSX_RCR]

Wow, if that A/F reading is correct....wow. Talk about lean. Was it one of those tail pipe sensors? If so, I've always seen that the tail pipe A/F's are a split second slower in response, as compared to my own wideband datalogs. So in comparison, the "unusually slow" spool could be contributed to the mixture moving from lean to extremely rich (10-11's). Also, I read that they guy did his own porting? I wonder how much he ported out to get that much flow out of it? Nevertheless, awesome numbers.

 

[Spidey]

Also curious about the spool-up, what's up with that?

 

[IMMORTALSPYDER]

You are not making any sense. What does the drivetrain configuration have do with the HP output of the engine?

Because a dyno reads power at the wheels. AWD and automatic have more drivetrain loss therefore they make less power to the ground even though they may make the same at the flywheel.

 

[nazthug]

man some of you guys are gulible

Its not rocket science, its not like magically someone has a special 14b or something that makes a trillion hp

I dont care how many dynos you throw up there

let me get this straight:

27xwhp on a 14b, at 10psi, NO NITROUS????

HAHAHAAA...why even bother coming up with that??

Tuning or not, magic or not, its simple, that turbo, at that boost, CANNOT FLOW ENOUGH AIR to create 270whp on a 2.0L turbo car regardless of timing, what you think you can just keep cranking timing to get more power???

and all these guys runing low 12's at over 112mph on 14b with 18psi or so, stock fuel or stock IC, wtf is your magic trick?

Why cant the next guy get a STOCK 1g gsx, raise the boost and run 12s? I barely see them getting in the 14s and 13s

U guys are all great magicians

 

[nazthug]

Ok, well since no one caught onto my post.

Why does the 14b take so long to spool? 4500rpm?

That's 50trim area. Even on the juiced pull the spool isn't much faster (like it should be on nitrous).

you are 100% right

And if you notice, the nitrous has nothing to do with the spool because he hits it after it spools up, if you look close at the graph

I DONT BELIEVE IT, a 14b spooling at 4500rpm...haahaaa...come on guys, just cause there is a dyno shown, doesnt mean ANYTHING, i can go get my dyno from my buddies shop of a t04r turbo supra at 740whp and post that, doesnt mean SHIT

I just dont believe these tinny 14b's making SOO much power at so little boost

I will believe it however if someone just didnt care about their turbo, spun it up to like 26psi, welded their wastegate shut and praying to god it dont blow

Frankly, i see this all the time, people think turbos are god, just crank it up and get more power........