Xantec HID kit

[talon2gbuyer]

Hey all, thinking of getting the Xantec HID kit for our cars. For the price you cant really beat it. Does anyone know if the bulb size is the 9006 (HB4?) for our cars before i order the kit? At this point anything would be a step up from the stock lighting, as right now i cant see jack crap at night (the bulbs just are not bright enough on the low-beams) I read a bunch of threads on the HID's and the xantec kit but no one put up what bulb size they bought and if it worked.

Thanks guys!

 

[DSMDEMON93]

I run the 9006 in 8k in my car. It's great! Just low-beams of course, since they are not a dual-ballast high/low setup. At first, I had a 6 month warranty where one ballast kept failing, so one light was 8k and the other was 6k, but it's resolved now!

 

[talon2gbuyer]

Sounds good, do you recommend them? There are alot of people on amazon that gave these a terrible rating. What do you think of them?

 

[jjaycxj]

Get silver stars DO NOT DO hids in stock housing as the stock reflector can't contain the light so it will be scattered and you will actually have less usable light . If you want to HIDs get a retrofit kit and do them that way.

 

[talon2gbuyer]

Ok, i have been debating getting actual projectors, so i think I'll add that to my list of parts come september. Thanks!

 

[jjaycxj]

Ok, i have been debating getting actual projectors, so i think I'll add that to my list of parts come september. Thanks!

thats the way to go i actually retrofitted my headlights with these Bi-xenon Morimoto Mini Stage III Kit (H1) - Complete Retrofit Kits from The Retrofit Source Inc
all i needed was a dremel and it took about 3 days to do. the quality is amazing and the light output is great. i went with 5k bulbs but im thinking of going to 4300 as they have a little more definition

 

[talon2gbuyer]

Well i went with the silvania silverstar's for now, and I can already see a difference. The light output is easily 3x what it was with the regular halogens. Good call

 

[talon2gbuyer]

Now with looking at that kit that you linked, does that not require projector lenses? $270 is kinda steep with still needing the projector housings.

 

[jjaycxj]

Everything is included projectors housings, bulbs and adapters the only thing I would recommend you get is a relay harness and run it straight off the battery as the stock wiring won't hold up well to the HIDS

 

[NHerron]

I believe what jjaycxj is speaking of is getting the kit from that link and by 'retrofitting' he means modifying the stock housings to fit the kit. That kit is a projector/HID all in one. Now it just needs a place to feel at home, and aim the light.

jjaycxj-

How is the cutoff in that kit? And are you able to adjust the angles still?

 

[talon2gbuyer]

Hmm.. i'll look into that kit then. Ive wanted to go HID's for a while, just wasnt sure about a kit that everyone agreed on.

 

[NHerron]

HID's are great, provided they are done correctly. Either a retrofit kit or buy an aftermarket HID kit with the HID housing. DO NOT buy an HID kit which uses the stock housing unmodified!

 

[born2tune]

WOW, speak for your self people. I use a HID kit w/my OEM headlights and its the most clear, straight and smooth pattern I've ever seen even compared to a "projector" housing.

If it has not worked for ya'll fine. but for the sake of individual feedback: I love it w/my OEM housing. (2gb not 2ga).

 

[NHerron]

Okay I'll give you that. Personal opinion.

But your setup is very illegal in a lot of states. And if it isn't illegal, it sure as hell isn't DOT approved anywhere. Why? It's all about how the light is delivered and distributed. HID's go with projection housings and filament style goes with reflective. Mixing and matching is like putting on someone else's glasses, it just isn't going to turn out right. You could have much better and safer results with a little research.

Thinking of switching to HID?

 

[jjaycxj]

Okay I'll give you that. Personal opinion.

But your setup is very illegal in a lot of states. And if it isn't illegal, it sure as hell isn't DOT approved anywhere. Why? It's all about how the light is delivered and distributed. HID's go with projection housings and filament style goes with reflective. Mixing and matching is like putting on someone else's glasses, it just isn't going to turn out right. You could have much better and safer results with a little research.

Thinking of switching to HID?

The cutoff is great! You can still adjust with the stock adjusters il post pics of the setup When I get on my computer.

WOW, speak for your self people. I use a HID kit w/my OEM headlights and its the most clear, straight and smooth pattern I've ever seen even compared to a "projector" housing.

If it has not worked for ya'll fine. but for the sake of individual feedback: I love it w/my OEM housing. (2gb not 2ga).

It doesn't work with an oem housing. Our 2g reflectors can't handle the light HIDS need to be projected and have cutoff lines while you may think it looks better it doesn't and your blinding everyone on the road everywhere.
HID overdose, the projetor build - Jeep Cherokee Forum
Here's a thread of my buddy's jeep I helped install running one of the retrofit kits in the link I provided even tho it's a different car you can see the difference with proper high quality projectors and bulbs not eBay garbage

 

[born2tune]

Okay I'll give you that. Personal opinion.

But your setup is very illegal in a lot of states. And if it isn't illegal, it sure as hell isn't DOT approved anywhere. Why? It's all about how the light is delivered and distributed. HID's go with projection housings and filament style goes with reflective. Mixing and matching is like putting on someone else's glasses, it just isn't going to turn out right. You could have much better and safer results with a little research.

Thinking of switching to HID?

You are in the right path, but no one is debating whether test pipes are used on the road or not, or "loud exhausts systems" are in compliance as per the law or not, or lawful vehicle ride height. or whether a 2000w sound system is pointless because anything heard from an excess of 25 feet is illegal, or there's no point of manufacturing vehicles to go over 75MPH when no road in america goes past that.... lets not get off subject.

You have some understanding with HID's in regular halogen housings but its not complete. what you should have said is that the intensity (measured in Kelvin) is way higher(not brighter) than regular halogen bulbs.

halogen bulbs produce about 3K of intensity and the reflectivity of the housing is able to effectively reflect off about 3K of intensity towards the road.

HID bulbs on the other hand may produce 6K in average (and higher) and when used in a reflective housing that may only reflect 3K forward, the other 3K+ actually bounces, bounces all over the place, technically going everywhere but forward to the street. therefore being "illegal" or "unsafe"

While a projector housing actually traps all reflection and bounce into a casing and out through the only opening, forward eye.

While it may slightly bother any incoming folks, it does look better from my POV.

Here's a thread of my buddy's jeep I helped install running one of the retrofit kits in the link I provided even tho it's a different car you can see the difference with proper high quality projectors and bulbs not eBay garbage

Cant believe anybody would try to put an HID kit on a jeep style housing, minus well leave them hanging out from the ballast. It like using a candle with a mirror behind it WTF .

but doing the projector mod did work nicely.

 

[jjaycxj]

You are in the right path, but no one is debating whether test pipes are used on the road or not, or "loud exhausts systems" are in compliance as per the law or not, or lawful vehicle ride height. or whether a 2000w sound system is pointless because anything heard from an excess of 25 feet is illegal, or there's no point of manufacturing vehicles to go over 75MPH when no road in america goes past that.... lets not get off subject.

You have some understanding with HID's in regular halogen housings but its not complete. what you should have said is that the intensity (measured in Kelvin) is way higher(not brighter) than regular halogen bulbs.

halogen bulbs produce about 3K of intensity and the reflectivity of the housing is able to effectively reflect off about 3K of intensity towards the road.

HID bulbs on the other hand may produce 6K in average (and higher) and when used in a reflective housing that may only reflect 3K forward, the other 3K+ actually bounces, bounces all over the place, technically going everywhere but forward to the street. therefore being "illegal" or "unsafe"

While a projector housing actually traps all reflection and bounce into a casing and out through the only opening, forward eye.

While it may slightly bother any incoming folks, it does look better from my POV.



Cant believe anybody would try to put an HID kit on a jeep style housing, minus well leave them hanging out from the ballast. It like using a candle with a mirror behind it WTF .

but doing the projector mod did work nicely.

That's the second set of retrofitted headlights In that jeep and he did it ### stock lighting on an xj sucks

 

[NHerron]

...etc etc etc....

lets not get off subject.

I would hate to.

You have some understanding with HID's in regular halogen housings but its not complete. what you should have said is that the intensity (measured in Kelvin) is way higher(not brighter) than regular halogen bulbs. halogen bulbs produce about 3K of intensity and the reflectivity of the housing is able to effectively reflect off about 3K of intensity towards the road.

Not true. You can get 3K halogen style or 3K HID stlye.

And 3K intensity huh? Intensity is the brightness or saturation of one absolute color. 5000 degrees Kelvin is not more intense than 4000 degrees Kelvin. Another version of intensity is Lumens. More Lumens, the more intense the light output is.

HID bulbs on the other hand may produce 6K in average (and higher) and when used in a reflective housing that may only reflect 3K forward, the other 3K+ actually bounces, bounces all over the place, technically going everywhere but forward to the street. therefore being "illegal" or "unsafe"
While a projector housing actually traps all reflection and bounce into a casing and out through the only opening, forward eye.

Color temperature has nothing to do with scattering light uselessly and pissing off drivers. It's all about how the light is focused. If you changed the color of your red laser pointer to green would it effect the optics or just the color?

While it may slightly bother any incoming folks, it does look better from my POV.

Nice touch
Ever heard of a placebo effect?
Let me guess. You have a ton of light directly in front of the car but quickly tapers off after 10FT. Do you realize you're eyes are only tuned for about that far now because of the short distance of the light output?

Cant believe anybody would try to put an HID kit on a jeep style housing, minus well leave them hanging out from the ballast. It like using a candle with a mirror behind it WTF . but doing the projector mod did work nicely.

Wow. Just wow man. You must be a spammer.

 

[smokestack]

I personally like them i currently have the h1 8000k kit in my 2ga haven't had a problem except for on one side getting wet. After awhile it would blink then one day it went out but for 30 on eBay u cant beat that. By the way i have the projector housings, don't think the stock housings will reflect the light correctly.

 

[jjaycxj]

I would hate to.



Not true. You can get 3K halogen style or 3K HID stlye.

And 3K intensity huh? Intensity is the brightness or saturation of one absolute color. 5000 degrees Kelvin is not more intense than 4000 degrees Kelvin. Another version of intensity is Lumens. More Lumens, the more intense the light output is.



Color temperature has nothing to do with scattering light uselessly and pissing off drivers. It's all about how the light is focused. If you changed the color of your red laser pointer to green would it effect the optics or just the color?



Nice touch
Ever heard of a placebo effect?
Let me guess. You have a ton of light directly in front of the car but quickly tapers off after 10FT. Do you realize you're eyes are only tuned for about that far now because of the short distance of the light output?



Wow. Just wow man. You must be a spammer.

I'm so glad someone else understands why HID In non projector housings is so wrong

 

[Mike02rt]

thats the way to go i actually retrofitted my headlights with these Bi-xenon Morimoto Mini Stage III Kit (H1) - Complete Retrofit Kits from The Retrofit Source Inc
all i needed was a dremel and it took about 3 days to do. the quality is amazing and the light output is great. i went with 5k bulbs but im thinking of going to 4300 as they have a little more definition

That kit won't touch the quality light output that an OEM hid projector from a Honda s2000 or Lexus sc430 projector will produce. These are the most common for a reason: they simply work better. If your going to get an aftermarket hid projector made to replicate an oem unit, there are options half the price of the ones you bought:
Projectors - Custom Lightz - The HID Headlight Projector Retrofit & Parts Specialist

 

[jjaycxj]

That kit won't touch the quality light output that an OEM hid projector from a Honda s2000 or Lexus sc430 projector will produce. These are the most common for a reason: they simply work better. If your going to get an aftermarket hid projector made to replicate an oem unit, there are options half the price of the ones you bought:
Projectors - Custom Lightz - The HID Headlight Projector Retrofit & Parts Specialist

I know but I wanted Bi xenon and the s2k are low beam only. This kit fits perfectly as our housing isn't that big and therefore won't fit a big projector and gives good light output compared to most cars. Either way it's better than sticking HIDS into oem housings