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what MAFs do you guys use for DSM link

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Pennywise

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just looking for the different combos, if you could post dyno #'s and turbos would be cool to. left the DSM crowd about 3 years ago and at the time I was planning for the infamous VPC AFC combo. This DSM link looks very impessive just wanted to see the different combos.
 
For DSMLink you can use the 2G MAS (good for upto 400HP) or the GM MAF with MAFT. If you use the MAF/MAFT combo you have to turn all the settings on the MAFT to 0 and then tune with DSMLink. As you know, you can't use the GM MAF without the MAFT.

The other option I like is ECU Plus, which is a piggyback like the SAFC but if you have a 2G you don't need to get an EProm ECU. The ECU plus also has a logger, MAFT, wideband input, RPM ajustments by 250RPM etc. Check it out if you are interested, www.ecuplus.com/features.htm. Don't get me wrong, DSMLink is a very good product, but since I have a 2G I will be going the ECU Plus route instead of spending money on a MAFT and Eprom ECU.

You could also wait until this summer, DSMLink is supposed to have a new version with MAFT capability.
 
Pennywise said:
just looking for the different combos, if you could post dyno #'s and turbos would be cool to. left the DSM crowd about 3 years ago and at the time I was planning for the infamous VPC AFC combo. This DSM link looks very impessive just wanted to see the different combos.
The DSM-Link can be used with any Mitsubishi MAS and a GM MAF if used with the MAF Translator.

As for HP levels, the best to worse (in stock form) would be 3.5" MAFT, 3" MAF, EVO MAS, 3G MAS, 2G MAS, 1G MAS :dsm:
 
DSM90AWD said:
The DSM-Link can be used with any Mitsubishi MAS and a GM MAF if used with the MAF Translator.

As for HP levels, the best to worse (in stock form) would be 3.5" MAFT, 3" MAF, EVO MAS, 3G MAS, 2G MAS, 1G MAS :dsm:
Thanks thats what i was looking for, looking for 400 so I would think that the 2g or evo would work out. i was just seeing what everyone else uses.
 
DGajre777 said:
If you use the MAF/MAFT combo you have to turn all the settings on the MAFT to 0 and then tune with DSMLink.
Not quite, actually. The MAFT-based setups (and the GM MAFs in general) seem to have quite a bit of variance, so calibrating the MAFT turns out to be fairly important to getting a reasonable DSMLink tune (or at least logging reasonable airflow numbers). But that's really just me being pedantic. You're pretty close to 0 on the MAFT at the end of it, just not exactly.
DGajre777 said:
As you know, you can't use the GM MAF without the MAFT.
Yet. :D
 
i dont have my maft set at zero i have it set for stock 450's then tuned with the dsmlink... i just put down 350awhp on my 2g
 
I meant turn all the fuel trim settings to 0 and use the stock injector size setting. Sorry for the confusion.
 
logic said:
Not quite, actually. The MAFT-based setups (and the GM MAFs in general) seem to have quite a bit of variance, so calibrating the MAFT turns out to be fairly important to getting a reasonable DSMLink tune (or at least logging reasonable airflow numbers). But that's really just me being pedantic. You're pretty close to 0 on the MAFT at the end of it, just not exactly. Yet. :D
Keep in mind that this is mostlikely w/ drawthrough. I say mostlikely becuase some have reported needing no more than 2-3% changes on their MAF compensation functions in DSMLink to accurately run in blowthru. But, others have needs 20-30% compensation. Likely most will be somewhere in the middle w/ blowthru.

If you're willing to take the time to dial in the MAFt in blowthu, it will have a distinct advantage. I noticed a 200 rpm earlier spool running my SMALL 16G in blowthru. I'll wager that w/ my 60-1, spool rates would be quite pronounced shifting from drawthru to blowthru.
 
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