wastegate/BOV

[Mighty Mouse]

Can a waistgate be replaced with a BOV or are they different set-ups?

 

[dave99gst]

Provide differant functions.. ya need both on a turbo car.

 

[clownface]

they both do the exact same thing almost though, BOV lets compressed air out, wastegate lets out exhaust and they both do it in the same way.
but you cant really use one for the other.

 

[Mighty Mouse]

thanx

 

[Mighty Mouse]

I’m having trouble finding a website that will sell me a waistgate actuator. Can somebody help me?
thanx

 

[dave99gst]

Originally posted by clownface
they both do the exact same thing almost though, BOV lets compressed air out, wastegate lets out exhaust and they both do it in the same way.
but you cant really use one for the other.

not even close !

BOV aka CBC ( compressor bypass valve ) let out air to keep from damageing the turbos turbine and throttle plate by giving the suden shockwav of pressure somewere to go.

WASTGATE keeps from OVER spooling the turbo ( keeps the turbo at the RPM it was ment to be in.. by letting out exhaust or keeping it in. )

if ya mean same thing as in,, there both on turbo cars? ya they are.

 

[clownface]

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no i think im right, the mechanics of both a BOV/CBV and a wastegate are very much alike. a external gate is alot more like a BOV then a internal but its still works in the same way.

 

[Defiant]

Originally posted by clownface
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no i think im right, the mechanics of both a BOV/CBV and a wastegate are very much alike. a external gate is alot more like a BOV then a internal but its still works in the same way.

Is that clownface, or clownBRAIN?

My god, they're as related as chalk and cheese.

A wastegate opens to "waste" exhaust energy instead of using it to drive the turbine, and a BOV (or, CRV) lets excess intake pressure escape. Yes they are both valves, and yes they both allow gas to pass. But they are NOT alike in what they do, nor in how they're operated, not even in the slightest.

 

[Mighty Mouse]

what the heck dose all that have to do with me finding a waistgate actuator?
can we stick to the topick please?
thanx

 

[clownface]

Okay I know there not related in what they do BUT come on they are so related in how they work, especially a external gate and a bov.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

spell check please might mouse

in a way they are a little bit related.. but imagine if they were .. two BOV's bwahahahhahah :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Defiant]

Originally posted by Mighty Mouse
what the heck dose all that have to do with me finding a waistgate actuator?
can we stick to the topick please?
thanx

What, are you trying to find one? I guess my psychic link must be fouled.

Try an ad in the Parts Wanted forum.

 

[NickBsGST]

DSMparts/DSMtalk/Horsepowerfreaks

try any of those

DSMtalk has actuators right on the front page

 

[Jimmy Jr.]

Search.

 

[kpt4321]

Originally posted by Defiant
Is that clownface, or clownBRAIN?

My god, they're as related as chalk and cheese.

I think he was trying to make the point that mechanically they are almost the same thing.

In terms of what they do, yeah, they are way different.

 

[kpt4321]

Originally posted by Defiant
What, are you trying to find one? I guess my psychic link must be fouled.

Originally posted by Mighty Mouse
I’m having trouble finding a website that will sell me a waistgate actuator. Can somebody help me?
thanx

:laugh: :laugh:

 

[dave99gst]

Originally posted by kpt4321
I think he was trying to make the point that mechanically they are almost the same thing.

if thats the case then a water pump and turbo are the same thing.
they both pump somthing. they both sorta/kinda work in the same way.


and Mighty Mouse.. this is still the orig topic. knowing weather or not there the same thing will tell you if you can replace one with the other.

 

[kpt4321]

Originally posted by dave99gst
if thats the case then a water pump and turbo are the same thing.
they both pump somthing. they both sorta/kinda work in the same way.

No.

A BOV and a Wastegate (external) and VERY similar in terms of manufacturing. You have a top chamber with a diaphram, which is preloaded with a spring. Then, you have a rod attached to the diaphram, which goes down through the spring to a plunger. That plunger sits on a flat seat, which it seals against.

When the proper manifold signal reaches the top chamber through a vacuum/boost source line, the plunger lifts off the seat. The pressurized air that is under the plunger goes around it, and out through an outlet hole on the side, 90 degrees away.

Sounds like they're pretty damned similar to me.

 

[dave99gst]

(shaking head) oooooooooooooo n/m
wtf does "manufactureing" have to do with?
THERE TO TOTALY DIFF PARTS that provide TO TOTALY DIFF FUNCTIONS.. PERIOD

there both vavle yes.. they both act the same.. yes..
are they the same ? NO~!

So with your thinking.. ill go back to my theory..
a turbo has a inlet/out let a water pump has a inlet/outlet
they are both driven from external forses to move mass.
they both have impellers they both work in the same exact way.

So im thinking, im gunna get me a water pump from a semi and
BOOST IT !

hahahhaa

 

[kpt4321]

Goddamn it.

He said they did similar things, that's all. They do.