test pipe ?

[Clipse]

Hey dude, chill out. I wasn't trying to be rude. I was just stating that because I noticed I didn't before. That time of the month?

 

[mrfloppy]

Test pipes are not good for engines. I say this because of the 02 sensor not working properly. If you let all that extra fuel into the engine it will shorten you life of the engine, they should only be used for race use. Clogging the piston the rings and carbon diposits will build up on the side walls of the engine. Leading to loss of engine performance.

On top of that you guys polluting the air because you want to go faster... in reality cats are not that restrictive anymore. Unless your driving a starion/conquest, then you cat isn't that restrictive.... maybe a a half pound is lost through the cat... and thats a big IF. Why f*ck up the air you and I breath? Cats have helped the air since the 1970's. Cali use to be 10X worse as far as air quality goes. And look at L.A. Still smoggy as hell!

This isn't the 80's where a test pipe would mean the difference in a race with two identical cars. ( seen this many times with 350 C.I. 3rd gen F-Bodies )

Unless your boosting really high, there is no real reason to have a test pipe. All it does is give you shitty gas mileage. The power made from a test pipe is only really worth it when your in the high rpm ranges... daily use i rarely hit 4K ( of course everyone else seems to be a race car driver these days ) but who knows..... something I wouldn't invest in until a new other mods were completed... like full exhaust and a different turbo.

Just my .02

Erik

 

[mrfloppy]

Originally posted by Black95GSX
John..... we know your car is a freak......


Seriously though 95's had sooo many different revisions to the software that some will never see a CEL reguardless, where others can have a cat on the car and still get a CEL (over sensative).

Mind you that emission laws in the US changed in 96. 95 cars have OBD I computers. Argue that how you may... wheather its a 95 BMW or a 95 Geo Metro... they all had the same thing. OBD II came into play in early to mid 96 models. Some early 96 cars may be different then others, but as of 97 OBD II was fully into play.

Lets fear the release of OBD III... they are trying to make it so it has a VSS and Emission control unit. So it can do an emission test from your car, it will not start if you can't pass emissions. Say good bye to gutted kittys and test pipes forever.. hopefully that won't happen though. Car makers are arguing that point strongly.

Erik

 

[Rob]

Everything is bad for your car

Ohhh noooooo

 

[doug]

Originally posted by BigDgs-t
Hey dude, chill out. I wasn't trying to be rude. I was just stating that because I noticed I didn't before.

I was chillin', hence the . I wasn't trying to be snotty or anything either, it's just hard to express yourself in writing sometimes and people can't see that you're trying to say something calmly. This certainly isn't the first time someone on an internet forum has been misconstrued-- no hard feelings were meant at all.

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night,

 

[greyforestgst]

test pipe bad?
my ass

-i dont get a CEL
-i get more horsepower

and the ozone can kiss my ass

 

[Rob]

Oh no the O zone
As hulk would say it " TEST PIPE GOOOOOD"

 

[mrfloppy]

Originally posted by greyforestgst
test pipe bad?
my ass

-i dont get a CEL
-i get more horsepower

and the ozone can kiss my ass

yeah ozone will kiss your ass... with skin cancer.... or just boil the the oceans to the point of where costal states will have major floods. hey what should i care though? i am inland... you live in texas. and florida is below sea level... what do you think will happen to them?

 

[Rob]

OH NO !!!!! SAVE THE WHALES !!!!! you really think were messing up the ozone us here in fla and texas? i guess you havent been to newyork or calli or D.c ? talk about bad

And beside were all going to die of like aids or something like it before it the ozone even goes or one of these countrys will drop the bomb and we were drop ours and pow were all going to have very bad skin cancer... thats if you have skin.

Peace out Green Peace

 

[SPEEDY]

I have been running a test-pipe for two years now. I use to get a cel about once every 6 months, and all I would do was disconnect the negative battery terminal for a few minutes to reset the computer to get rid of it. I have now went a year with out seeing a cel. I don't know what the poster on up above is talking about but a test-pipe is one of the best and cheapest upgrades that you can do to extract more power. And yes... it is bad for mother earth but try to tell that to all of the other racing organizations that are out there, Good Luck! A turbocharged vehical loves to breath, why do you think they make 3" high flow cat converters, 3" dp's, 3" exhausts for? "Duh" to get more air flow out. A naturally aspirated car is the only one that needs some back pressure. It will lose power on bottem end. Bottom line is... a turbocharged car loves to breath. An engine is like an air pump. The more air you can get in, and the more air you can get out, the more power your going to make PERIOD. Expect about a 15 to 20 hp gain depending on your supporting mods. Peace!!!

 

[44pirate]

If you got a pocket logger you can reset the CEL. Testpipe or HIFLO cat you need to open up the exhaust if you wanna go fast. Green peace up there work on people to quit smoking. There is a shitload of that causing way more damage to mother earth and human life. I feel your pain, I got a HIFLO cat. Test pipe is good. Hope you went 3" all the way.

 

[44pirate]

A spark plug screws in the hole nicely in place of the O2 sensor.

 

[Clipse]

Originally posted by doug


I was chillin', hence the . I wasn't trying to be snotty or anything either, it's just hard to express yourself in writing sometimes and people can't see that you're trying to say something calmly. This certainly isn't the first time someone on an internet forum has been misconstrued-- no hard feelings were meant at all.

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night,

It's all good bro... I know what you're saying.

 

[Clipse]

But this has never caused anyone's ride to run rich?

 

[95talontsi]

44pirate "A spark plug screws in the hole nicely in place of the O2 sensor. "

Can u say flame exhaust, just make it run rich with the afc and hit the spark. hehe

 

[mrfloppy]

Originally posted by SPEEDY
I have been running a test-pipe for two years now. I use to get a cel about once every 6 months, and all I would do was disconnect the negative battery terminal for a few minutes to reset the computer to get rid of it. I have now went a year with out seeing a cel. I don't know what the poster on up above is talking about but a test-pipe is one of the best and cheapest upgrades that you can do to extract more power. And yes... it is bad for mother earth but try to tell that to all of the other racing organizations that are out there, Good Luck! A turbocharged vehical loves to breath, why do you think they make 3" high flow cat converters, 3" dp's, 3" exhausts for? "Duh" to get more air flow out. A naturally aspirated car is the only one that needs some back pressure. It will lose power on bottem end. Bottom line is... a turbocharged car loves to breath. An engine is like an air pump. The more air you can get in, and the more air you can get out, the more power your going to make PERIOD. Expect about a 15 to 20 hp gain depending on your supporting mods. Peace!!!

yes i am well of aware of what the 3" pipes all do for the car. i have worked as an apprentice for over a year now and I have been working on cars ( more so old muscle cars then newer cars ) since i was 12. i am not a teenager that went out and bought a dsm thinking i am going to run 10's without doing a basic mod like mainfold back upgrades.

but its still bad for the engine.. all that fuel being dumped into the engine isn't all burnt up. why do you think that muscle motors had a hard time staying alive and clean ( in the inside of the motor ) because they always had unburnt fuel being put in there. it clogs the piston rings and leaves carbon.

all I am saying is use a test pipe when needed, save the gas and the extra gas money for someother important mods. you can't really boost high ( 20+ PSI with cat get more restrictive with every pound added) with out a test pipe, i know this. do what you want... its not like i am going to check every car, let alone every dsm, to see if they have cats or not. i like people like you, because then it comes around to the point where engine needs cleaning... and i get paid to clean them!

and i am not a green peace member, if anything at all think of the air you breath, because if you don't care anyways... take a nice huff of your exhaust pipe! same thing eventually.

cel won't come on as often on the 90-96 DSMs because of OBD I. The older the car the more likely it won't come on at all. again do what you want. i eventually will get a test pipe too, just use it when needed not drive with it everywhere. why should the oil companies get more of my business?

 

[Rob]

Well ive been working on Cars,Big Trucks and busses and in my 10 years of working on all of them cats or no cats if seen seen no problems besides most dsmers arent trying to get 200,000 miles on there motors we race them as long as we can till something gives

 

[44pirate]

With a SAFC you can run it pretty Lean and not have a whole lot unburnt gas.

/Can u say flame exhaust, just make it run rich with the afc and hit the spark. hehe/

Actually I read where someone did what you said. Crazy

 

[Rob]

SOME REALLY GOOD INFO HERE ON THE TEST PIPE I HOPE THE OTHERS READ IT =0) before posting " Test pipes are they good"

 

[doug]

Well I finally got my first CEL the other day. I knew I shouldn't have said earlier I never had one. But I just unhooked the negative battery terminal for a few minutes and it went away after that. It's been about 3 days now and it hasn't come back. I don't know for sure it was the test pipe that was causing it but I checked everything else I knew to check and it looked and ran fine.

 

[powells85]

to plug up the hole for the rear sensor you can get a oil drain plug and yes it is 18 x 1.5. looks better than a spark plug (or less ridiculous)

 

[Black95TSIawd]

i thought having a testpipe would let all the exhaust come out easier and not let it be stuck in the motor. Cats burn excess fuel by the cat. Not in the motor.


I love my testpipe. I got the most power out of my exhaust when i added one.

 

[Rob]

great info
thanks for leting the others know
Rob

 

[SPEEDY]

Originally posted by mrfloppy


yes i am well of aware of what the 3" pipes all do for the car. i have worked as an apprentice for over a year now and I have been working on cars ( more so old muscle cars then newer cars ) since i was 12. i am not a teenager that went out and bought a dsm thinking i am going to run 10's without doing a basic mod like mainfold back upgrades.

but its still bad for the engine.. all that fuel being dumped into the engine isn't all burnt up. why do you think that muscle motors had a hard time staying alive and clean ( in the inside of the motor ) because they always had unburnt fuel being put in there. it clogs the piston rings and leaves carbon.

all I am saying is use a test pipe when needed, save the gas and the extra gas money for someother important mods. you can't really boost high ( 20+ PSI with cat get more restrictive with every pound added) with out a test pipe, i know this. do what you want... its not like i am going to check every car, let alone every dsm, to see if they have cats or not. i like people like you, because then it comes around to the point where engine needs cleaning... and i get paid to clean them!

and i am not a green peace member, if anything at all think of the air you breath, because if you don't care anyways... take a nice huff of your exhaust pipe! same thing eventually.

cel won't come on as often on the 90-96 DSMs because of OBD I. The older the car the more likely it won't come on at all. again do what you want. i eventually will get a test pipe too, just use it when needed not drive with it everywhere. why should the oil companies get more of my business?

As with you I'm not a teenager either. I'm 34 years old, and if your trying to make power, it's all about flow my friend, it's all about flow. Test-pipe all the way!!