td05 14b or 16g housing?

[forged93]

hi there, i have bought a td05 recently (intended to send for upgrading to 20g)
after bringing it home... i then found out it is a 14b from the code which stated... 01400...

i am in big big dilemma whether i should just continued with it or look for other td05 which is a 16g... because from what i read from some post (some from google) which claimed that it is not worthy to waste money on a 060 aka 6cm^2 turbine housing...

as from what i search here and there... stated that a 01400 td05 = 14b and it has a 6cm^2 housing...

i am quite disappointed at the beginning until i double check with the turbine housing... and i am shock (happy thou) as there is a code stamped at the turbine housing [070]... however, i am still not sure if it is a 7cm^2 housing... so i have uploaded several pictures and hopes that someone can tell me if it is a 6cm^2 / 7cm^2 turbine housing

 

[Arthris]

Looks like a 7cm to me. My 14b 6cm had a step that gets smaller just after the flange. You can upgrade a 14b to a 20g. Its just a little more work in machining to do it. I was gonna have my 14b made into a 20g but had a 20g built instead.

 

[pj91gsx]

Thats a chinese 7 cm and a 14b compressor housing

 

[stacked1G]

7cm / 14b.

 

[007jimmy]

Thats a chinese 7 cm and a 14b compressor housing

I agree. All of the mitsu housings would have the diamond star logo on them. The PO probably had a cracked to hell 6cm housing and needed to be replaced. Its easier to source a chinese knockoff then a genuine housing. It will still work fine though.

 

[forged93]

Thats a chinese 7 cm and a 14b compressor housing

huh... sobz...

does it mean that i am conned???

is there any differences with it... in term of reliability... dont hope to dump money in if it might not last...

i do aim for power... but reliability is important to me...

BTW, i do thanks for ya all for pointing out the thing...
am just too confused with it... until now...

 

[JusMX141]

Definitely a 14B, definitely an Evo III 7cm turbine housing.

I disagree with it being Chinese- the "78-13700" Mitsu part number is visible, and I've yet to see a Chinese housing numbered as such. At the worst it's a Taiwan-built housing from someone like Kamak Dynamics, but I honestly think it's Genuine.

Post pics of the wastegate flapper if you can.

 

[forged93]

uploaded the picture... kinda blur...WTF

Definitely a 14B, definitely an Evo III 7cm turbine housing.

I disagree with it being Chinese- the "78-13700" Mitsu part number is visible, and I've yet to see a Chinese housing numbered as such. At the worst it's a Taiwan-built housing from someone like Kamak Dynamics, but I honestly think it's Genuine.

Post pics of the wastegate flapper if you can.

btw, the flapper was weld from outside... thus cant open it...

 

[JusMX141]

That's a Genuine Mitsu Evo III turbine housing for sure.

 

[forged93]

That's a Genuine Mitsu Evo III turbine housing for sure.

... i bet no one can imagine how i feel...

up and down.... hehehe...

again... i would like to thanks you guys...


btw... someone has approached me and offer a billet 20g compressor wheel... below is the wheel's spec... does it really fits... (i dont trust seller so much... tends to seek for advice before getting it...)



APPLICATION - Mitsubishi TD05H-20G／TD06-20G／Greddy TD06SL2-20G Turbo

Inducer／Exducer - 52.65 mm／68 mm

Hub Length - 31.5 mm

BORE SIZE - 6.5 mm

Bottom - Super Back

Blades - Dual 6-blade


would like to know if it is worthy to use a billet compressor wheel???

 

[JusMX141]

You'd need to get the 14B's center housing machined, and you'd also need a different compressor cover.

The only turbos that a 20G compressor will drop on without requiring the center housing to be machined would be the Big 16G or 18G.

 

[TSITurbo95]

^ Don't forget the Evo3 16g. . . But to the OP, that is an authentic MHI 7cm turbine housing. The chinese version has a circular flapper arm.

 

[Travisgsx96]

If your looking to run a 20g down the road that should work fine till that time comes. If your gonna be getting a 20g with a td05h housing you can just do a strait swap later.

 

[forged93]

yea... contacted my local turbo service center and he told me that maybe an adapter will be needed for the compressor housing... cant figure it out...

read some old post where they mentioned that the 14B compressor housing may be ported to paper thin in order to fit the 20g

 

[TSITurbo95]

Adapter for what? And yes the 14b compressor cover can be machined to fit the 20g wheel.

 

[JusMX141]

Don't forget the Evo3 16g. . .

Evo III 16G's are a Big 16G made specifically for the Lancer Evolution III.

read some old post where they mentioned that the 14B compressor housing may be ported to paper thin in order to fit the 20g

If you open up a 14B cover to fit a 20G compressor clear to the inlet without "stepping" it (leaving the inlet smaller then cutting the radius of the wheel larger), the weight of your intake will snap the inlet bell right off the cover. I've seen it happen.

The only way you can properly install a 20G wheel in a 14B cover is to sleeve the inlet with a piece of larger aluminum piping....or just use any 16G cover.

 

[forged93]

Adapter for what? And yes the 14b compressor cover can be machined to fit the 20g wheel.

adapter for the compressor housing... i have no idea with it thou...

Evo III 16G's are a Big 16G made specifically for the Lancer Evolution III.

happy with an E3 turbine housing... ...

heard that the material of the turbine housing is different from the previous version??? any idea???

 

[JusMX141]

happy with an E3 turbine housing... ...

heard that the material of the turbine housing is different from the previous version??? any idea???

It's lighter, and has a higher nickel content in the casting- will not crack. Sure likes to eat bolts, though.

The Evo III turbine housing also has a larger outlet than the standard 7cm turbine housings....many feel this is what contributes to boost creep in performance applications.

 

[forged93]

It's lighter, and has a higher nickel content in the casting- will not crack. Sure likes to eat bolts, though.

The Evo III turbine housing also has a larger outlet than the standard 7cm turbine housings....many feel this is what contributes to boost creep in performance applications.

thx for ya info... appreciate it so much...

 

[TSITurbo95]

Evo III 16G's are a Big 16G made specifically for the Lancer Evolution III.

But the compressor wheels are slightly different, so wouldent that make them different?

 

[JusMX141]

Different in design perhaps, yet nearly identical in spec.

A billet 20G compressor is still a 20G....is it not?

 

[forged93]

Different in design perhaps, yet nearly identical in spec.

A billet 20G compressor is still a 20G....is it not?

it was claimed with the same dimension.. diameter... and so on...

but it was also claimed with lighter weight... (slightly different design wheel???)