Supra smic 2g diy install page??

[dmak]

I am going to put on a supra smic on my 2g soon, but the link at vfaq for the diy is not working. Anyone know if i can still find it on the net??

thx

 

[Slo TSI]

Yea its been down for a while now but if you want I'll take pics of the install to help you later.

 

[v8killar]

If you had those pics could you post them up or email them to me. i'm actually about to do something similar.. thanks

 

[DSMunknown]

there are two or three install guides that have been down for quite a long while. here is one that i just today found out is back online and working:


http://www.jakelatham.com/1gDSM/projects/supra_ic/



i suggest you save all the photos and copy/paste the guide to a Microsoft Word document, and then save. btw i just finished my own supra smic install this past week. i do not have any pictures because i do not have a digital camera and i refuse to waste valuable money on those crappy disposable boxes

however, if i can find someone who can lend me their own digital camera, and someone to make a page for me, then i will (within the next few weeks) give my own install guide for all the noobs. on a side note (somewhat off topic) it is BS when people with 2Gs claim that cutting up the area where the uicp connects to the smic is absolutely necessary. more on that if and when i get my own guide up and running.

 

[alex99gst]

I just replaced my supra smic with my new front mount. I had some crazy piping on the supra intercooler as well as some killer boost leaks, but it was a huge improvement over the stock intercooler. I would recommend taking your time so that the bumper doesn't bulge. I have a picture of my install in my gallery as well as a couple pics I took during the install (might help even if its a 1g). Also, if you can get your piping welded up for you this would be a big plus as my piping hung down about 2" below the car. The inlet part of the intercooler faces downward, so get the piping back up in the engine bay as early on as you can. My intercooler eventually got caught up on a driveway and ripped out the bottom of my car. This was only after continuous scrapes on things when I would forget to be careful.

 

[DSMunknown]

I just replaced my supra smic with my new front mount. I had some crazy piping on the supra intercooler as well as some killer boost leaks, but it was a huge improvement over the stock intercooler. I would recommend taking your time so that the bumper doesn't bulge. I have a picture of my install in my gallery as well as a couple pics I took during the install (might help even if its a 1g). Also, if you can get your piping welded up for you this would be a big plus as my piping hung down about 2" below the car. The inlet part of the intercooler faces downward, so get the piping back up in the engine bay as early on as you can. My intercooler eventually got caught up on a driveway and ripped out the bottom of my car. This was only after continuous scrapes on things when I would forget to be careful.

i have only seen pix of the install on a 1G, but it is a different experience when you see it face-to-face. i cannot comment on the install in a 1G, but i can on a 2G. and what do ya know, the thread calls for a 2G install. im not trying to bust you balloons here, alex99gst. im just trying to make the point that the install was quite a different experience for me.

again, when i get around to my write up, i'll go into detail. let me say simply this. on a 2G, you do not HAVE to do any cutting or use a sawzall or anything of that nature to make the smic fit. i was able to use the oem lower intercooler piping and my Brode pipe just fine. however, i did need to go and get 2 exhaust adapters (which can be found at CAP or Autozone or someplace similar). they were sized 2.5 inches-to-2.25 inches.

i dont know if this makes any difference in the matter, but i just completed this install last week, so it is fresh in my mind.

also, i was able to install the smic so that it does NOT hang below the oem bumper. again, when i get some pix taken, you will see what i did. just to give you an idea, the smic does not have to be perfectly parallel to the ground. this means it can be at an angle, and thus the inlet near the ground does not face downward but is horizontal. there are some other "tricks" that i am saving to show-n-tell when i get this install guide underway.

 

[Primaveria]

Did you have a chance to take any pics yet DSMunknown? I am about to install one on my car and would love to see what you did. I am glad to hear you did not have to cut the sheet metal at all, I read one of the DIYs and figured that there was probably a way to get around that.

I have a 2G BTW.

 

[DSMunknown]

Did you have a chance to take any pics yet DSMunknown? I am about to install one on my car and would love to see what you did. I am glad to hear you did not have to cut the sheet metal at all, I read one of the DIYs and figured that there was probably a way to get around that.

I have a 2G BTW.

no, not yet. my friend enjoi926 is lending me his digital camera because i don't have my own. i guess a family member is taking it on a trip to the west coast, and they will be back about two weeks from now. that's when i'll get pix taken and the guide up and running. fyi i will be taking lots and lots of pix. i understand how frustrating it can be when there is an install guide that does not have enough photos. i expect i will take at least 15, but most likely there will be more. i will post all the ones i take. i would say check back after june 4th. it sounds like a long time to wait, but it's really only about two weeks away.

 

[MadTripper]

2G Install from VFAQ via wayback machine

Most of the pictures are missing and I can't seem to get page two but maybe it will help.


Tripper

 

[kenamond]

DSMunknown: you get those pics yet? Inquiring minds want to know...

Does the Brode pipe go under the fuse box (in stock location) or between the filter and fuse box? Just wondering if my Dejon unit is similar enough to the Brode. The Dejon goes under the fuse box.

 

[DSMunknown]

DSMunknown: you get those pics yet? Inquiring minds want to know...

Does the Brode pipe go under the fuse box (in stock location) or between the filter and fuse box? Just wondering if my Dejon unit is similar enough to the Brode. The Dejon goes under the fuse box.

well, it looks like im gonna have to fork out a little cash to get these photos up. because i love you guys so much i will go out and get high-quality film, take the damn shots, go down to the photo store and ask to have them put on a CD.

actually, the brode does none of the things you suggested (that is, if you go my route). if you pop the hood and wiggle your fuse box, you will notice that there are two metal brackets holding it in place. the bracket that should be under the stock location of the BOV is the one that needs "ajustment". you will be taking off the other smaller bracket completely. the longer bracket will need to be hammered down.

yes, i said it- hammered down. on the stock engine, this bracket is basically at a 90* angle (that is, it is perpendicular, and it is also parallel to your legs as you stand in front of the car). so essentially you will hammer it so that it is now basically parallel to the ground.

next, you will have to rotate the fuse box on its side.

look here for a quick reference:
http://members.shaw.ca/dsm.1000q/Engineprimer/2G/visual-index.htm

notice in the picture the side of the box that is between the top of the fuse box and the intake filter. you will turn the fuse box so that this side is now on the bottom, facing the ground. it will be a tight fit depending on what intake system you have. the way i have done it will not allow the individual to retain the stock intake filter and intake filter box. i have an ExtremePSI intake (very similar to an Injen) and i was worried it would not fit, but it did.

essentially, the fuse box will be going inbetween the brode pipe and the intake filter/intake pipe. also, the brode pipe will be significantly higher than it is usually seen. the fuse box is placed in this fashion to avoid clearence problems with the hood, while the brode pipe (in combo with aftermarket BOV) still does not interfere with hood clearence.

i sincerly appologize for the delay of the install guide. it will be up and running in this website's "tech articles" section ASAP.

 

[kenamond]

well, it looks like im gonna have to fork out a little cash to get these photos up. because i love you guys so much i will go out and get high-quality film, take the damn shots, go down to the photo store and ask to have them put on a CD.

Get a cheap 3 megapixel digicam or a used, good 3 megapix cam off ebay. You don't even need 3 megapix for pics to look very good on a computer screen (printing them is a different story, though). Not sure how much you'll end up having to spend, but it ain't gonna be a whole lot ($50 maybe). Here is one for $25, but it's a bit low resolution (fine for posting SMIC pics on the forum, though ).

 

[DSMunknown]

Get a cheap 3 megapixel digicam or a used, good 3 megapix cam off ebay. You don't even need 3 megapix for pics to look very good on a computer screen (printing them is a different story, though). Not sure how much you'll end up having to spend, but it ain't gonna be a whole lot ($50 maybe). Here is one for $25, but it's a bit low resolution (fine for posting SMIC pics on the forum, though ).

thank you very much for the link and the heads-up. still, as the saying goes, "you have to give the people what they want." therefore, i have to stick with what i have for now.

 

[thekellbeast]

Alright, I just got my Supra SMIC all installed and set up, and it works fine. I had one problem - the top end tank blew off because the previous owner didn't put the fasteners down correctly. 1/2 a tube of JB Weld will keep that from ever happening again. Plus I beat the shit out of the clamps.

Anyways, mine is at a bit of an angle, like DSMUnknown said his was, and I managed to get it to work without cutting a new hole or banging on the frame. The stock shroud doesn't line up all the way yet, and the fender plastic had to be hacked a bit. I also swiss cheesed the hell out of it and put mesh behind it.

I hung the IC using metal strapping, to the very front mount for the stock IC, and to the bolt hole that used to be in the middle of the fender plastic. I think my pictures will tell the story better. The I doesn't appear to hang any lower than the bumper, but the metal strapping kinda curves down about 1/2" below. It's not bad though.

I don't know how much better it is than stock though, because I'm only running at stock boost level. I'll run it hard when I drive it this afternoon and see if it gets hot to the touch.

Anyways, the point of this whole post is to say that I do have pictures on my digital camera now, and I just need to get it synced up with the computer and post them.

 

[DSMunknown]

i too have currently taken over 60 photos. i took kenamond's advice and finally recieved my digital camera yesterday. since this smic is already installed, i still have to take photos of the "uninstall" and "re-install" process. i expect i will be able to take these install photos on this upcoming friday and have the guide completed by the following day or so.

i will also be posting other random photos that others have taken, to show differences and similarities.

 

[kenamond]

i too have currently taken over 60 photos. i took kenamond's advice and finally recieved my digital camera yesterday. since this smic is already installed, i still have to take photos of the "uninstall" and "re-install" process. i expect i will be able to take these install photos on this upcoming friday and have the guide completed by the following day or so.

i will also be posting other random photos that others have taken, to show differences and similarities.

 

[SaintGRW]

i too have currently taken over 60 photos. i took kenamond's advice and finally recieved my digital camera yesterday. since this smic is already installed, i still have to take photos of the "uninstall" and "re-install" process. i expect i will be able to take these install photos on this upcoming friday and have the guide completed by the following day or so.

i will also be posting other random photos that others have taken, to show differences and similarities.

Did you post this already? I can't find it and I'm trying to install mine the only methods I can find pictures with include cutting the car which I'm not going to do.

I look at the end tank and it looks like if it wasn't flipped all I would need is a 3" to 2.5" coupler but that can't be right.

 

[kenamond]

Did you post this already? I can't find it and I'm trying to install mine the only methods I can find pictures with include cutting the car which I'm not going to do.

I look at the end tank and it looks like if it wasn't flipped all I would need is a 3" to 2.5" coupler but that can't be right.

He supposedly got a digicam, but I haven't heard from him. PM him and ask; I've bothered him enough.

 

[DSMunknown]

i submitted my Supra SMIC Install Guide (for the 2G folk) this past monday evening. i found out that there is a process that all future guides must go through. i am told that a moderator must view and authorize each guide. pm Ludachris if you would like to know more about this.

i pm'ed DGaijre777 about this. he said that he submitted an article about a month ago, and it is still not up and running. well, people have been hearing me yap away about this install guide long enough. i will post the write-up in the next post with lots of photos in following posts. i am only able to post up ten photos per post, which is why there will be many posts with many photos. as you can understand, this will take me a few hours. i will also be updating my write-up and adding little tid bits that i may have overlooked (it is easier to know what needs to be discussed with the photos right in front of me).

EDIT: i will try my best to put all the photos in order of which i speak of them. for instance, when i talk about the MKIV Supra intercooler piping and i have the brackets ( [ ] ) then that is where the photos should be in my install. since those are the first brackets i use, then the MKIV Supra intercooler piping will be the first photos i post up. it will be easier to understand what i am doing by looking below.

 

[DSMunknown]

never mind. 99gst_racer was kind enough to view and post my guide up.




http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234172



again, it will take me some time to get all the photos up and add any blurbs to my guide. please allow me at least a few days (if not a week) to get all my photos up and to make the small additions to the guide.

 

[thekellbeast]

I just made my own write-up with pictures. I don't know how long it will take to post though, I guess it needs to be moderated first. It doesn't have too many pictures, but it should give you some ideas for the route I took.

 

[DSMunknown]

I was given this link by mikyrc over at DSMtalk. Here is the link he sent me:



http://www.clubjapo.com/foro/viewtopic.php?t=7218




Because it is in spanish, I took the liberty of translating it and incorporating the english into the quote box below:

Good compis here you abandonment another Mikybrico. Adapting an intercooler of Toyota Supra MKIV al eclipse 2G turbo.

Tell you that is indispensable to have installed a filter of not very wide and direct admission (the K&N do not serve, they are very wide)

I had one and it tube that to change

Also comment you that you will need to modify or to change the upper and lower tubing of the intercooler so that adapt well the new one intercooler.

Good the first thing that one must cause is evidently to remove our IC original. We dismantle the protector of plastic underneath of the step of wheel of the side of the companion. It will go you a lot better if you remove the wheel of the car so that remain you space to work.

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Then you remove the filter, caudalímetro, nozzle of the I turbo, upper tubing of the intercooler and we remove the screws of the fuse box. Remaining thus: (Yes, it itself, is disgusting.)

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Good the following step is a little coñazo but one must do it. We have to rotate one of the two covers of the intercooler so that the connections they remain us well oriented. With the aid of a screwdriver, we have to go raising the clamps that hold the cover of the IC that want to rotate. We rotate it and we put it again without damaging the rubber of watertightness. Then with some pincers we go pressing the clamps until remain well tight all.

Photo of the before:

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And of the later:

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Good here I put you a photo so that can compare the IC original with that of SUPRA. DIFFERENT truth?

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Good, now it comes it more entertained, to present the IC and to begin to take measures and positions so that remain us well placed.

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As it bothered me me to a little the departing one of the hole of the lateral light, I cut him with the dremel. Outside himself he is not noted.

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Later, what does more pain to have that to do, we mark the zone where will we have to cut a little sheet to cause to pass the upper tubing of the IC and we cut as we be able. I put him then a species of protective rubber for all the perimeter of the hole.

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EDIT: I had to break up the quote box into two segments so all the photos would fit.



If you notice, mikyrc's Supra SMIC fits quite well. However, he did have to make the intercooler piping hole bigger to allow this fitment. This was one of the things I DID NOT want to do. I wanted to prove to everyone that the common belief that "you must cut up your car to make the Supra SMIC fit" is simply untrue. I could have done the install using a saw-zall like most others do, but I wanted to prove a point.

 

[DSMunknown]

Here is the continuation:

Then it is qüestión to go doing us backups with handrail and screws of 6mm. Aprobechamos some screws and nuts that already are in the car to screw the backups al car. The IC al to have many nuts already integrated of 6mm goes us of pm to screw the handrails. Here you abandonment some views of the backups:

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The following thing is to redo the connections of the tubing. Here you can see the connection of the tubing of entrance al IC. I have reused that of origin without cutting neither nothing. As I have had that to adapt two pipes of rubber (one of 2,5" and another of 2" that insert well), I put him a steel tubing gobbet inox of 2" inside the small one for thus be able to press well the bracket.

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Then the top. I time ago that built me the upper tubing in steel inox of 2,5" to which I welded him the backup of the recirculadora. And an elbow of silicone for pipe of 2,5".

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Then we put the cover of the step of wheel again. I tube that to cut a piece and to double it so that entered me well since the IC goes very just.

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Good. Here it is seen once finished. The ones that you have a filter K&N as had I, already can forget you of him because is too wide and did not fit. The upper pipe of IC exceed him a lot more than before.

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Pursuit yatá.

The results are quite good. To see, al to it be cold was I have not been able to appreciate a lot of the diferéncia, since that will be seen in summer. But what if I have noted is that now the I disturb enters before and recovers before. That was to expect since that IC flows a lot more than the restrictive one that biene of origin. You recall that is a 30% higher and wide, the double one of thickness and with tubing of 2,5" (that of origin is of 2")

I expect that serve you.

If anyone is wondering why parts of the dialogue are oddly worded, I used http://www.freetranslation.com/ to translate the install guide. I have asked mikyrc to look over the install guide, and let me know if there are any parts of the translated sections he would like to have translated better.

 

[mikyrc]

Thanks for posting it Anthony
I'll end totally translating it to english as the automatic translation is very bad.

So as soon as i have it translated i'll post it here.

 

[mikyrc]

Done. Im pretty fast, don't?

Forgive me if my english is not very good. I do what i can, sorry.

Well guys here it goes my Vfaq about installing a Toyota Supra MKIV IC on the 2G eclipse

turbo.

I have to tell you that you must have an aftermarked cone style air filter, not very wide.

(The K&N one doesn't fit, the upper IC piping gets closer to the front headlight now)

Y had a low mileage K&N filtercharger and i had to replace it for a round shape one.

Also i must say that you'll have to modify or replace your upper and lower IC piping to

comodate the new IC.


Ok, the first thing you have to do is obviously take the stock IC out.
We must take the wheel well guard off. But first take the wheel out, as you'll work much

better with free space there.

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Then take out the air filter, MAS, Intake rubber that goes to the turbo, upper IC piping and

unscrew the fusebox.

It looks like this, yes i know there's a lot of dirt here.

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Next step is not fun but you have to do it.
pipes oriented right where we want.

With a screwdriver we must lift the teeth that holds one of the plastic end tanks. I flipped

the lower one, so the little side bracket face towards outside the car, as you'll need as

much space as you can. And also as it's the input side of the IC and this way you can clean

the inside very well.
Ok, we flip the end tank being very careful to not break the rubber seal.

Then we bend back the teeth with some kind of pliers.

Sorry i don't have any pics of the process.

Before:

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After:

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Here you can compare the two ICs. Pretty different, right?

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Well, here comes the most bored part. Put the IC ther, holding it with your hands or with

whatever you have and take measurements and clearances around.
It took me like 10 minutes or so to get the best place for it. Remember that you'll have to

put the plastic splash screen back there.

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For you to see how tight that IC fits, I had to cut a bit of the bumper where the sidemarker

goes. As the yellow sidemarker covers it, is not notticeable from the outside. I used a

dremel with a cuting disc.

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Then, the most sad part. I first didn't wanted to end cutting anything, but that was not

possible without leaving the bumper bent out. So i had to enlarge the upper ic piping hole a

bit.

Mark it and with the tools you have in hand cut it as well as you can. I did it with a hand

saw and drilling holes with the electric drill.

Here you can't see it but later i put a rubber around the hole to protect the silicone elbow.

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