Support mods help

[koho2731]

Well I'm kinda going about this the wrong way I have a T3/T04E 57 Trim .63 stage III A/R, HKS SSQV, Walbro 255, Bosch rising rate FPR(which I don't know if it'll even work in this application), SAFC-II, AEM UGEO wideband, AVC-R, and a Tial 38mm WG. All of the parts came off of my Spec V that was totaled. The thing I need to know is what parts do I need to get the parts I have to work in a Gen 2 besides the FMIC, manifold, intake, exhaust, IC pipes, and fuel injectors (750cc ?). What I don't know is can I still tune with the SAFC-II or do I need to goto stand alone and what size injectors would work best with this setup. Also will the Bosch FPR work on the car? The car I'm most likely going to pick up if it's not in to bad of shape has some mods, but I'm looking at it today to see what all it has already. I have done a good bit of work on a Gen 1, but it only has a evo III 16g. He is running 660cc injectors and Supra TT fuel pump w/ a 3" GM mas and trans and a SAFC-II for tunning along with other supporting Mods. Any guidance would be appreciated. I do under stand that it will take time and money to make this setup work, but I want to run in to the 12's with out braking to much stuff or at lest run better the the 13.282@ 110.28 mhp Thanks again for any help.

 

[gurmanator]

this is idea to save money,trade parts with your buddys and do some testing to find out what works best.that's what we do...it takes time but at least you dont buy something you dont need.

 

[koho2731]

That was helpfull . I have done some research and from what I can see no one is using a T3/T04E 57 trim. I'm asking questions to see if the parts I already have will work or not like I'm just buying things just cause. I don't know if my FPR will work or not so I'd thought I'd ask. Also I'm just not that familiar sizing injectors to fit an application such as this sorry. Your method of just trying things to see if they work is just not how I do thing. I just want to it right the 1st time and be done with it.

 

[gthompson97]

for the mods your running, i'd be looking at dsmlink if i was you, instead of the safc-II. i think 750's would be a little overkill, but then again it's that much more assurance that you won't max them out. try looking up the aeromotive afpr. i've never seen anyone run the bosch, but it might work.

 

[koho2731]

Thanks man. I was look at the aeromotive afpr, because the Bosch is kinda crappy and I've seen more then a few go bad. I was hoping to use the SAFC-II just because I'm proficient at tunning with it. Oh well it's just something else I have to learn how to use.

 

[92awddsm]

That was helpfull . I have done some research and from what I can see no one is using a T3/T04E 57 trim. .

Not many dsm's are running the 57 trim because it just isnt as efficient as a 50 trim on a dsm. It will make enough power to get you into the 12's with no problem.

As far as the turbo is concerned, does it have a 270* thrust bearing or a 360* thrust bearing? The 270 will hold up fine if you are boosting less than 12psi but anymore and the turbo will go south. On a dsm, you will definately want something with a 360 bearing.

In order to keep the .63 ar t-3 housing, you will need to buy another exhaust manifold or use an adapter plate. Another option would be to purchase a dsm bolt on turbine housing. Here is a link to someplace you can purchase the turbine housing to bolt onto your 57 trim and then bolt up to your stock manifold.

You will also need an oil line kit(feed and return) for the dsm, 90*silicone coupler to connect the outlet to your licp, and an intake pipe to fit the turbo. These parts can be purchased from the same company that has the turbine housing.

Edit: with the turbine housing listed, it should clear the water pipe fine but you might need a slimline fan to clear the turbo.

 

[Talesin]

If it already has the Evo III 16G on it, I'd stick with that, myself. Those things can put out some nice numbers. Sounds like the T3/T4 won't serve you all that well.

DSMLink is the best, aside from a full standalone. Plus it's cheaper. And it's loads easier to get a good tune out of... plus, no matter the size of your injectors, with the right setup it'll idle and drive like stock, until you step on it. Personally, I'm going with 850s just to make certain I won't overrun. Only problem is that if you're going 2G, you'll need to track down a '95 EPROM ECU to use it.
Otherwise, an SAFC or ECU+ unit would be your best bet... but neither of them can touch DSMLink for smooth idle and drivability.

Aeromotive is probably your best bet for AFPR, or the AEM universal.. both are 1:1.

HKS SSQV, you'll want to make sure you have a MAF-T and GM MAS blowthrough setup, or figure out a way to recirculate it... you'll have a terrible time getting a good tune without recirculation, if you're on the stock MAS. Pig rich between every shift.

 

[koho2731]

Thank you for the info on the housing swap. If I went that direction how would you hook up the external WG or would the 38mm intenal WG stop the most boost creep problems?

The Turbo is a 360* thrust bearing so it's good there. I will most likely remove the A/C system any way so clearance shouldn't be an issue.

The SSQV can be recirculate with a kit that HKS sells. I'm familare with the stalling issues with having a draw through MAS and trying to vent atmosphere. That is why I converted My Spec V to a Blow thourgh from the get go. Thank's for the heads up though