Suggestions for 97 GSX Project

[CDgr97GSX]

Hello everybody. Before i start this thread i did my research...but i still have some doubts and many questions. I'm from Romania, and soon i'll start rebuild my car...but unfortunately before i can do this i have to order all the parts that i need...and i have to order them from America...so i have to know exactly what to order. It will be a daily driven car...and sometimes in amateurs drag contest. Honestly...in the beginning i wolud like to keep my engine stock as much as possible because is still life in it...and make enough power with best possible gas mileage. I'll apreciate any help, any suggestion and advice and i wish everyone it will be patient...because i will be a long way till the end of the project. Here is a list with everyting i was thinking to order. U can add, erase or comment about the choices i've made.
1 DSM FP3065 Ball Bearing Turbocharger 1520$
2 FP DSM Race Manifold 199$
3 TiAL 44mm vband Wastegate 385$
4 FP Custom 3" SS O2 Housing 625$
5 FP DSM Intake Cams 214$ HKS 272
6 FP DSM Exhaust Cams 214$ HKS 272
7 Injectors 300$
8 Extreme PSI Intake Kit 150$
9 GReddy Type-RS Blowoff Valve Kit 266$
10 Walbro Fuel Pumps 70$ FPGSS342
11 Walbro Install Kits 20$ 400-847
12 ACT Xtreme Street Clutch Kit 2600 510$
13 Fidanza Lightweight Aluminum Flywheel 200$
14 ECMLink (DSMLink) V3 600$
15 Apexi Super AVC-R Boost Controller 450$
16 Apexi GT Downpipe 255$
17 Apexi GT Cat-back Exhaust 800$
18 GReddy Intercooler Kit Type 24V 800$
19 GReddy Piping Kit 250$
20 Tein Type Flex Damper Kit 1500$
21 Tein EDFC Controller Kit 240$
22 Tein EDFC Stepping Motor Kit 160$
23 Tein EDFC Strut Kit 30$
24 Mishimoto Fan & Aluminum Shroud Kit 190$
25 Fuelab 515 omplete Fuel Pressure Regulator Kit 210$
26 FueLab "818" Complete Fuel Feed Upgrade Kit 160$
27 AEM High Volume Fuel Rail 192$
28 Megan Racing Rear Strut Bar 50$
29 Megan Racing Front Strut Bar 50$
30 Rotora Big Brake System - Front 2700$ 355x35mm
31 Rotora Big Brake System Rear 2000$ 330x30mm
32 Wideband O2 Sensor 270$
33 Racing Short Shifter 100$
34 Prothane Motor Mount Inserts 70$
35 Prothane Total Kit Bushings 200$
36 Lotek Triple Pillar Pod 50$
37 AC-Autotechnic S7 EL Instrumental Gauges 100$
38 AC-Autotechnic D5 Race Gauges Oil Temp 100$
39 AC-Autotechnic S7 Race Gauges Air/fuel 80$
40 AC-Autotechnic S7 Race Gauges Boost 60$

 

[CDgr97GSX]

Hi guys...I'm almost reddy to start working on my car. Is taking a lot of time to find a good workshop that wants to work on this car. Because i'm gonna pay some money only in the shipping and workhand...i need to keep everyting in the buget that i have right now. So...my question is...should or shouldn't buy a turbo like Fp3052 if u are running with a stock engine and the only updates are made on fuel..intake...exhaust but without update the internals from engine too. I'm asking this...beause i don't think i can rebuild my engine right now...and the turbo that i want is Fp 3052...or something similar...that can give me the opportunity to go higher when i can...without change the turbo...but still can run on a stock engine.

 

[slowgsr]

a 30R is fine on stock engine.. heck you could even use a 35R. I run a S258 in T3/0.70a/r on the stock motor and its slighly bigger than a 30r and i have no complaints.

 

[CDgr97GSX]

Antoher question. I just order the dsmlink v3 and i'm a little bit confused about the MAF type i should use it. Should i stay with my stock 2g MAF...or buy a GM MAF and the GM MAF cable from ECMTuning for 75$ and using with dsmlink. As far as i know the GM is good for atmosphere blow off...and the stock one can handle about 400hp. In the same time...what kind of injectors should i get...i know u can run oversize injectors with dsmlink....but i don't know exactly how big. About my gols...i want to use the stock engine with the maximum safe power i can make...untill i'll be able to go up...and rebuild the engine. Anyway...i need an advice. Thanks.

 

[shaunp]

As far as intercoolers goes I would really consider Punishment Racing 2g kit. You can not beat that price.

 

[shaunp]

Antoher question. I just order the dsmlink v3 and i'm a little bit confused about the MAF type i should use it. Should i stay with my stock 2g MAF...or buy a GM MAF and the GM MAF cable from ECMTuning for 75$ and using with dsmlink. As far as i know the GM is good for atmosphere blow off...and the stock one can handle about 400hp. In the same time...what kind of injectors should i get...i know u can run oversize injectors with dsmlink....but i don't know exactly how big. About my gols...i want to use the stock engine with the maximum safe power i can make...untill i'll be able to go up...and rebuild the engine. Anyway...i need an advice. Thanks.

I'm not sure about the MAF, On my build I plan on using my stock MAS.

The injectors will depend on your horse power goals, but I think some 650's or 750's will be enough.

 

[CDgr97GSX]

Hi guys. I just sandblasted my car and i have some problems with the headlight support..it's rusted and i want to know if i should replace only the parts form that area or should i change all the radiator support. Here are some parts number i was thinking about.
MB959295 or MB959292
MR273782
MB959304
MR273792
MB959270
Or the radiator support
MB959299
I'll put a picture to see what is the problem. Thanks a lot!

 

[CDgr97GSX]

Not so much help till now....but i think i'm gonna order just the parts because the radiator support is to big to be shipped international. I have a problem and maybe somebody will help me out. From this picture i have to order "61312R" but i get 2 part numbers MB959292 and MB959295. Which one is the right one? And also i got w/o abs and w/abs option so i'm a little bit confused. Also the part "62640" is coming with the hood latch support?

 

[CDgr97GSX]

To not open a new thread i'll ask for some help here...maybe this time i'll be more lucky and get some advices. After i've ordered the oem parts from the headlight area is time to get some performance parts. So far i have the Ecm Link V3 ,Megan Racing exhaust and Fidanza 3.2 clutch...and i want to be sure what i'm gonna order now is the right parts...everything will fit together and i'm not missing someting.
1.FP3052 Ball Bearing Turbocharger
2.FP 2g Oil Supply Line (FPMLSS2GHEAD)
3.FP Blue Oil Drain Tube (FPMODTTD05GT)
4.Water Fitting Set (M14 x 1.5mm/3/8" hose)
5.FP DSM Race Manifold (Turbo Bolts: Included)
6.7CM Turbo to Manifold Gasket
7.OEM Exhaust Manifold Gasket (Part Number MR323654)
8.OEM Exhaust Manifold Stud Set (Model:7 Bolt)
9.TiAL MV-R Wastegate: 44mm V-Band
10.Extreme Turbo Systems Intercooler Kit (Core Thickness 3.5")
11.HKS ver.3 SSQV Blowoff Valve Kit
12.FueLab "515" Complete Fuel Pressure Regulator Kit
13.FueLab "818" Complete Fuel Feed Upgrade Kit (fuel filter)
14.FIC 950cc Ball-Style Injectors
15.Walbro 255 HP with Install Kit
16.Tein Type Flex Damper Kit with EDFC
17.Megan Racing Front Strut Bar
18.Megan Racing Rear Strut Bar
19.B & M Short Throw Shifter
20.Prothane Motor Mount Inserts
21.Head gasket
22.ARP Head Studs

 

[FLASH1970]

I personally wouldn't get a ball bearing turbo. They cannot be rebuilt so if it goes bad, you need a new one. Get a journal bearing turbo so it can be rebuilt if needed. Also, do you have a horsepower goal for this car?

 

[Khadaw66]

Hi guys...I'm almost reddy to start working on my car. Is taking a lot of time to find a good workshop that wants to work on this car. Because i'm gonna pay some money only in the shipping and workhand...i need to keep everyting in the buget that i have right now. So...my question is...should or shouldn't buy a turbo like Fp3052 if u are running with a stock engine and the only updates are made on fuel..intake...exhaust but without update the internals from engine too. I'm asking this...beause i don't think i can rebuild my engine right now...and the turbo that i want is Fp 3052...or something similar...that can give me the opportunity to go higher when i can...without change the turbo...but still can run on a stock engine.

The fp3052 is a good street turbo. All you need to do to make some more power safely is changing your headgasket to a mls and getting arp head studs. That should be good enough based on your goals.

 

[CDgr97GSX]

Definitely i will get a ball bearing one...i want to be able to hit 500hp..maybe more...and 11's. I don't think i will get broke so fast...i hear only good things about Fp...this is one of the reason i'm going full Fp. Honestly i'm not so sure even right now what turbo to get...the 3052 or the HTA DSM 76(GT3076R) kind of a 3052 with HTA wheel. I went to some posts where some guys was saying this DSM76 is not good for a DD and one of them got the 3-th gear wheel broke because of this turbo. I have a brand new tranny...so i have to think about that too. So maybe the 3052 is enough for but i don't want to buy a turbo and then be sorry i didn't get a bigger one.

The fp3052 is a good street turbo. All you need to do to make some more power safely is changing your headgasket to a mls and getting arp head studs. That should be good enough based on your goals.

I have them on the list. I had so much problems with this car since i bought it...and i'm trying to have it like i want for more the one year. I so expensive for me to get all the parts and get them shipped. Last thing that happend was so frustrating... i got a full bodykit from ED and a carbon hood from Vis...and the bodykit is totally wrong...have to be rebuild or something...and i payed more then 1k $ with the transport and everything for nothing. Good thing is the carbon hood is fitting and is a piece of art.

 

[KevinE326]

Not seeing ARP Head Studs and perhaps a higher end head gasket. Buy em or regret it when your head pops.

 

[FLASH1970]

There are plenty of journal bearing turbos that'll get you over 500hp. Have you looked at Borg Warner turbos? Or looked into the Holset turbo threads on this forum? There's lots of good info on Holset turbos here and they are cheap. I wouldn't go for 500hp on a stock 7 bolt engine. I know you said you plan to eventually rebuild it but I'd say 350 maybe 400hp would be a good goal for a stock 7 bolt engine. The 7 bolt cars have weaker connecting rods. 7 bolt engines are used on 92-99 cars. Some 92 cars were 6 bolt engines but they switched half way through the year. Anyway, if your new trans is stock, it might hold 500hp. How long it lasts will depend on your driving.

 

[CDgr97GSX]

Not seeing ARP Head Studs and perhaps a higher end head gasket. Buy em or regret it when your head pops.

I have them on the list but i forgot to write it here. Oem multilayer or Cometic?

There are plenty of journal bearing turbos that'll get you over 500hp. Have you looked at Borg Warner turbos? Or looked into the Holset turbo threads on this forum? There's lots of good info on Holset turbos here and they are cheap. I wouldn't go for 500hp on a stock 7 bolt engine. I know you said you plan to eventually rebuild it but I'd say 350 maybe 400hp would be a good goal for a stock 7 bolt engine. The 7 bolt cars have weaker connecting rods. 7 bolt engines are used on 92-99 cars. Some 92 cars were 6 bolt engines but they switched half way through the year. Anyway, if your new trans is stock, it might hold 500hp. How long it lasts will depend on your driving.

I had a look at Holset turbo and i can say is not an option. I want something that i can take it out from the box and put it on the car and be done with it...and i don't have to be worried about fitting or something else...because is hard for me to send back something to the seller for warranty or refund. And for sure i'm not gonna push more then 350-400 Hp or 20 Psi with my stock engine....after i'll rebuild it i want to be able to get as much as possible without buying other parts but not more then 550-600...i think is more then enough!

 

[CDgr97GSX]

I have a question about pillowball mounts from Tein suspension. I want to buy the Tein Flex or SS-P so i can have it with EDFC but i found in Europe in UK another kit but without pillowball but still works with EDFC. I've read this thread ( http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/handling-tech/213838-tein-upper-pillow-mounts.html ) and some others and it seems pillowball should give you more stability then rubber mounts. But here is an answer from Tein Uk regarding their kit without pillowball mounts.

"There is any reason in particular, you wanted pillow
ball top mounts?

Tein UK did not include them in the design for cars configured
with wishbone / multi-link damper units all round.

We found that this feature was more than our customers needed for
street use. Pillowball top mounts on this type car, will only
give you the benefit of better linear movement of the damper,
eliminating a little vagueness in steering and feedback through
the chassis. Only sensitive drivers will feel the benefit over
the stiff rubber used in GSR56-B1SS3.

Additionally, pillow ball top mounts require additional
maintenance, as the spherical bearing will eventually need
replacing due to wear. With the stiffened rubber items, there
probably will never be a need to change them throughout the life
of the damper, and it will also be more quiet in its operation.

These are the reasons we have chosen rubber of spherical bearings
for this application."

MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE

MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE D32A 95-99

Also it seems the UK version is more streetable. So i'm a little bit confused Is it worth the extra money for pillowball or not...after this answer...i would say no.

 

[CDgr97GSX]

I just got an answer from Fp about what would recommend to be a better setup for me a Fp 3052 or Fp Dsm76. They said would be better for me to go with Fp Dsm76(Gt 3076R) because of HTA wheel. What do you guys think?