Stroker for the street??? or track???

[gsxeclipsed]

I have a read a few things about how the stroker give you more torque and thats always good for an awd. But is it worth building one for a street car? my goal is 400 awhp. is this a good choice for my DD?

Thanx guys.

 

[dsmRemy]

you can do 400 hp without a stroker. Ive head something about strain on the rods with the stroker crank in the 4g63. The best thing to do is a 4g64 block with 4g63 head for reliablity.

 

[1993eclipseGS]

My buddy just got done building a stroker motor with a fully built head and all, he has around 9grand into it already, He's using it in a street car.. It's crazy.

 

[Lunch_Box]

I wil be daily driving my 2.4L once I get everything back together. But for 400Hp a stroker isn't needed.

 

[Injected]

First of all there is a discrepency in the question. If you are talking about the torque potential of a stroker motor, then you need to pose the question about reaching a specific torque figure. With a super high revving engine and very little torque, 400whp is not unreasonable (think Honda). But you are talking about a stroker 4G63T right? If you want to know about the specific outputs of this then pose the question like this: "For those of you with a stroker kit, do you suggest doing this for a daily driven vehicle? Does anyone have a dyno-sheet for a stroker motor?" I hope you find your answer.

 

[liquordrunk]

i run a 2.3 stroker in my 91 tsi fwd and its my DD., its awesome. i run a 60-1 fpred. fp2 cams Jmfab smim . i have gooooooobssss of torque i spin in 1st and 2nd . its so fun
and 9 grand in a stroker for a daily driver well WOW thats insane. there is really no sense in that. i built mine fully built long block for 3500 this is all new parts. cept for hte block and head. not much more than it would have cost for a bullet proof 2.0
is you want INSTANT power
When in doubt, Stroker out!!!

 

[NDgsx]

Ive head something about strain on the rods with the stroker crank in the 4g63. The best thing to do is a 4g64 block with 4g63 head for reliablity.

No it's the same rod ratio, unless you use the magnus 156mm rod setup on a 2.4L block. What idiot started this rumor? I'm seriously sick of reading that the 2.4 has a different rod ratio than the 2.3. THEY BOTH USE 150MM ROD WITH A 100MM STROKE.

 

[gsxeclipsed]

Thanks for the responses they helped some. i think im ganna go with the stroker cuz i want my eclipse to be different. i wanna go like all out so this sounds like the right option for me.

 

[MNGSX]

It's a great street motor and ok at the track.

I have gone over this before.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161702&page=4&pp=25

 

[Injected]

It's a great street motor and ok at the track.

I have gone over this before.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161702&page=4&pp=25

I've been reading the other thread, it has a LOT of good information (and a funny rapping sequence ! ). I then remembered two vids posted in the vid section of two different guys at the track with their 2.4L engines. For an all out drag car, check out Rau's set up. For a normal-ish street track car capable of 10's on boost only that is completely streetable, it seems that the 2.4 is a good choice for a setup. MNGSX is right, a great street motor, but I would contend that a high nine to high ten second car is more than "ok at the track". If you haven't read the link, READ IT.

 

[MNGSX]

I should have rephrased that.. An all out track car will live longer with a 2.0 and perform better at really low ET's due to being able to ride out 4th gear longer.

 

[Ams2gJim]

2.3 are awesome for street/track cars. Eric and I both run 2.3L in out daily driven race cars and absolutely love it. off boost tq is just insane. Its night and day compared to a 2.0L.

For instance on a t/4 g35r with a 2.3L and a well designed header we are seeing full boost right around 3600 rpm.

2.4L are great motors but the only problem with them are the head gaskets. Only company who makes one is cometic and I see some friends replace there's every month.

 

[Lunch_Box]

Why does the extra .1L of diplacement cause so many head gasket problems?

 

[91gstman]

and do they replace the cometic every month anything wrong with the cometic headgastket?

 

[Mindslayer]

I run a 2.3L in my DD. And love it. If you have any problems with a stroker kit they may didn't shake the block for extra clearance. But it's night and day verse 2.0. I have a 2.0 setup with web cams and 60trim. And now i run 2.3 with pte 60 and FP2. And power is stronger. 2.3 is more so for the street imo. And 2.0 for the strip.

 

[Ams2gJim]

Why does the extra .1L of diplacement cause so many head gasket problems?

It's not the .1 thats diffrent its the blocks journals that or in diffrent positions. there for you can not use a HG such as mls, Hks, or any other good 2.0L gaskets.

 

[Ams2gJim]

and do they replace the cometic every month anything wrong with the cometic headgastket?

Cometic makes some very good hg. For some reason on the 2.4L it doesn't like to hold the boost as there 2.0 gaskets. Anytime they see 25+ boost it seems to take a crap. Jim

this is one main reasons we only build 2.3L at the shop. Jim

 

[swordfish]

Never changed a head gasket on my 10.0:1 2.4L long rod (527whp 26psi). It's an .080 overbore too. Sees plenty of boost and is a daily driver. Every single day. Plus it sees drag race, road course and auto X events on a pretty hectic schedule. Machine the block to a low RA as well as the head. That's the big secret to sealing a cometic, or any MLS gasket for that matter, properly. We use cometics on both our 2.4L and 2.3L (653whp 34psi) cars and have never had a failure. We use ARP bolt torqed to 100 ft lbs.

For street driving, I love the extra torque that the strokers provide. And like Jim mentioned before, the larger displacement engines spool larger turbos much quicker.

jeff

 

[XakEp]

Cometic makes some very good hg. For some reason on the 2.4L it doesn't like to hold the boost as there 2.0 gaskets. Anytime they see 25+ boost it seems to take a crap. Jim

this is one main reasons we only build 2.3L at the shop. Jim

The only difference between them is the bore size - otherwise the HG are the same. How exactly do the 1mm larger bores compromise the HG design?

 

[Ams2gJim]

Never changed a head gasket on my 10.0:1 2.4L long rod (527whp 26psi). It's an .080 overbore too. Sees plenty of boost and is a daily driver. Every single day. Plus it sees drag race, road course and auto X events on a pretty hectic schedule. Machine the block to a low RA as well as the head. That's the big secret to sealing a cometic, or any MLS gasket for that matter, properly. We use cometics on both our 2.4L and 2.3L (653whp 34psi) cars and have never had a failure. We use ARP bolt torqed to 100 ft lbs.

For street driving, I love the extra torque that the strokers provide. And like Jim mentioned before, the larger displacement engines spool larger turbos much quicker.

jeff

Sounds good man. I'm glad its working out for you. Going off what I've seen they don't hold up all that good to cars we have tested them on. These cars where around 600 whp.

Ya the extra displacement is very nice on larger turbos. Off boost TQ is what makes it worth wild.