stock turbo on stock N/T possible?

[Raph]

it has high 8.9-1 comp ratio i used a thicker head gasket to get lower compression

where did u get the thicker head gasket?

because im gonna turbo this thing!

 

[Raph]

2g nt's are totally different than 1g nt's i'd check out 2gnt.com or flip through the nt forum some more. i know there have been a few discussions on how to make your own 2g nt turbo kit, but you can't use hardly any of the parts from a 1g or 2g turbo to do it.

please help me with the car in the pic motor in the pic below

besides..would i need to worry too much about knock..this version has a knock sensor and is programmed to run on 95 and 98 octane...

im gonna go make a pic of the mas(since it is a 2g..maybe its the correct mas already?)

 

[EclipZ]

sorry to bring this thread back from the dead but i was just looking at that picture above and i am curious to know as why that engine is in that car? its a 1998 non turbo non spyder, shouldnt it have the 420a in it? even if it is the spyder it would have the 2.4L in it. i'm kinda confused on this, i have never seen that before

 

[goalieman24]

4g64

 

[GSGoinFast]

sorry to bring this thread back from the dead but i was just looking at that picture above and i am curious to know as why that engine is in that car? its a 1998 non turbo non spyder, shouldnt it have the 420a in it? even if it is the spyder it would have the 2.4L in it. i'm kinda confused on this, i have never seen that before

its not a 4g64... look where hes from... it says hes from Germany. my money would be that its the european version of the 2gnt, which came with the 4g63 in NA form.

EDIT: ya one of the pics in his gallery is titled 4g63 nt eurospec.

 

[Ntrain2k]

ya i found a guy on 2gnt that makes custom manifolds. but i couldnt seem to find a reasonable way to get around that high actuator thing. if you know away tell me, cause otherwise im ordering nitrous today

Simply make the can on the wastegete actuator bolt up so that it sits closer to the wastegate. Shim, spacer, or bend the bracket.

 

[TimG]

my money would be that its the european version of the 2gnt, which came with the 4g63 in NA form.

I concur.

 

[TimG]

the spring in the wastegate actuator runs at abot 7 psi which is more than low enough for whatever it is that you have planned.

I do not concur. When I ran the direct line from the intake manifold to my wastegate, it still opened at 11psi.

 

[mavisky]

I do not concur. When I ran the direct line from the intake manifold to my wastegate, it still opened at 11psi.

the pressure the wastegate line gives you will alter depending on your modifications to the exhaust. if you have a large 02 housing, downpipe, and cat-back i've heard as much as 13psi before from it. if you get too much boost by going this route you could probably adjust the arm of the wastegate actuator to lower that level. this is why i reccomend going to turbo internals. even stock turbo pistons can handle the extra pressure. to me running a turbo on an otherwise stock nt motor just isn't worth the time and effort since the minute you install it you're already at or near the limit for the power you can make on it. with a true turbo engine swap the sky is really the limit since all the proper hardware is in place now.

 

[TimG]

I agree with Kyle (Mavisky). You hear that folks. Please dont turbo your nonturbo motors; they will eventually blow. Just drop in a JDM turbo motor and you will be cooking reliably.

 

[92DSMErdrick]

I do not concur. When I ran the direct line from the intake manifold to my wastegate, it still opened at 11psi.

TimG did you mean intake manifold or what Mavisky said

if you're wanting to run lower than 10.5 that's simple. the 10.5 is based off of the computer using the bcs solenoid to control boost. sort of like an electronic boost controller would. all you have to do to run approximately 7 psi is to run a vacuum hose directly from the turbo outlet elbow to the wastegate actuator without running any hoses to the bcs solenoid. the spring in the wastegate actuator runs at abot 7 psi which is more than low enough for whatever it is that you have planned.

He said turbo outlet. When i convert I'm most likely gonna run it on the littlest psi, until i get new pistons to rebuild my bottom end. I just wanted to make sure if that was true? will it stilll be set at 11 psi or will it be 7 psi like mavisky said.. Thanks guys

 

[Chewie031]

Has anyone tried the new electric superchargers yet
reguards: Chuck

 

[mavisky]

Has anyone tried the new electric superchargers yet
reguards: Chuck

I'm assuming you're speaking of the Thomas Knight kits, I may be wrong but i was under the impression that those cost between $2,000 to $4,000 depending on what setup you went with. You could do a full turbo motor swap for less than the cheapest one.

 

[Raph]

hi guys,yep,thats my euro nt above..anyways.. ive decided to go witrh the turbo kit (for a 4g63 galant..still looking for a nice frontmouint..im thinking of taking one from a mercedes diesel panel van..there nice looking Intercoolers..and they cost next to nothing) and i just plan to drive it till it blows the piston rings.. then ill throw in other pistons..for me thats the easiest solution now..the kit says it runs runs 7psi.. so this sunmmer will be the tersting period for my motor(hoping that it doesnt blow its reings till otober(thats when the car gos back into storage)

i still dont know ecactly which cluth to use.. tim g or Masivsky, can one of you please tell / recomend me a clutch.. thanks..

 

[mavisky]

I'm currently having good luck with the act x-treme pressure plate and organic street disc combination from www.clutchcityonline.com