purplerocket69
Probationary Member
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- Jan 15, 2012
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Lisle,
Illinois
How's it going guys. This is my first post, I'm not too new to tuner cars and stuff, I've been around the corners here and there.
First thing's first, I've got a 98 Eclipse GS 420A motor, 136k on stock right now. I've set my mind to building a new motor for my car. I started about 3 weeks ago, purchased cams, crank, and a few other little things. A few days ago, I got an offer from someone in Oregon for a 420A Shortblock, built by Slowboy racing. I read a few posts about slowboy and how terrible their service is, it's not from them this time, it is directly from someone that bought it from SBR to put in his Eclipse but he totaled it before he could put it in. He's getting rid of it and he said it is a $2500 block, I told him I can't afford that, my build was expected to be about $1400. He replied saying something along the liens of him needing money and that he can do $1400 and we split the shipping because I live all the way in Chicago, IL.
The specs for the motor: .020 Over JE 8.8:1 Pistons, JE rings, Eagle Rods, ARP Main and rod bolts, New oil pump, 95 block, ACL main and rod bearings.
Now, I am planning on a turbo build. Here's what it is going to be like:
1- Build the motor in a few months, get a full block ready and assembled and timed and ready to drop in, as well as a transmission rebuild kit as well as a stage 3 clutch. On top of that, have about $300 on side for any extra crap that occurs, maybe I need some extra hoses or whatnot. Once I have all this, I will take out the motor and tranny, have a buddy of mine rebuild it with the kit, once it is rebuilt, put it back in there with the new clutch, then put the new motor in the bay.
Here's the list of what my build was going to have:
SHORTBLOCK
A. The Slowboy racing shortblock with: .020 Over JE 8.8:1 Pistons, JE rings, Eagle Rods, ARP Main and rod bolts, New oil pump, 95 block, ACL main and rod bearings.
or B. (My original Idea) Find a block with around 100k miles, have it bored and cleaned at a shop, remanufactured crankshaft, Eagle rods, Wiseco forged pistons, and engine bearings.
HEAD
Cometic Head gasket, find a head with around 100k miles, have it ported and polished at a shop, probably Stage 1 porting, Brian Crower Stage 2 or 3 Cams, stock valves(unless I get a head for cheap with bent valves, I will put in PEP Stainless steel valves, Brian Crower valve springs and titanium retainers.
Gasket kit for both ends off of DSMGraveyard.
MANUAL TRANSMISSION
As sad as this sounds, I was looking at an Ebay tranny rebuild kit for about $400. Let me knwo what you suggest on that. The clutch, XTD STAGE 3 CLUTCH & X-LITE FLYWHEEL 93-99 ECLIPSE GSX off of Ebay as well.
The turbo part, I was thinking about doing once the engine was broken in. I would take a few months to build some cash to get a kit and then install it.
Now this is a big project for me that I would like to do, I know it isn't cheap and you will say that I'm better off selling my car and getting a GSX. GSX's are already done, there's no fun to them, I want to build something that I know what I did and i know how everything works.
MY main concern is about everyone's thoughts. Please let me know what you think or if you have any suggestions, I would really appreciate it. I am dropping a $550 deposit mid this week on the Slowboy racing motor unless I get told otherwise. I just want to know if my planned setup will be a go for a turbo. The 8.8:1 ratio seems pretty good but I'd like some more thoughts on that. Please feel free to comment and shoot me messages for anything. Thanks.
First thing's first, I've got a 98 Eclipse GS 420A motor, 136k on stock right now. I've set my mind to building a new motor for my car. I started about 3 weeks ago, purchased cams, crank, and a few other little things. A few days ago, I got an offer from someone in Oregon for a 420A Shortblock, built by Slowboy racing. I read a few posts about slowboy and how terrible their service is, it's not from them this time, it is directly from someone that bought it from SBR to put in his Eclipse but he totaled it before he could put it in. He's getting rid of it and he said it is a $2500 block, I told him I can't afford that, my build was expected to be about $1400. He replied saying something along the liens of him needing money and that he can do $1400 and we split the shipping because I live all the way in Chicago, IL.
The specs for the motor: .020 Over JE 8.8:1 Pistons, JE rings, Eagle Rods, ARP Main and rod bolts, New oil pump, 95 block, ACL main and rod bearings.
Now, I am planning on a turbo build. Here's what it is going to be like:
1- Build the motor in a few months, get a full block ready and assembled and timed and ready to drop in, as well as a transmission rebuild kit as well as a stage 3 clutch. On top of that, have about $300 on side for any extra crap that occurs, maybe I need some extra hoses or whatnot. Once I have all this, I will take out the motor and tranny, have a buddy of mine rebuild it with the kit, once it is rebuilt, put it back in there with the new clutch, then put the new motor in the bay.
Here's the list of what my build was going to have:
SHORTBLOCK
A. The Slowboy racing shortblock with: .020 Over JE 8.8:1 Pistons, JE rings, Eagle Rods, ARP Main and rod bolts, New oil pump, 95 block, ACL main and rod bearings.
or B. (My original Idea) Find a block with around 100k miles, have it bored and cleaned at a shop, remanufactured crankshaft, Eagle rods, Wiseco forged pistons, and engine bearings.
HEAD
Cometic Head gasket, find a head with around 100k miles, have it ported and polished at a shop, probably Stage 1 porting, Brian Crower Stage 2 or 3 Cams, stock valves(unless I get a head for cheap with bent valves, I will put in PEP Stainless steel valves, Brian Crower valve springs and titanium retainers.
Gasket kit for both ends off of DSMGraveyard.
MANUAL TRANSMISSION
As sad as this sounds, I was looking at an Ebay tranny rebuild kit for about $400. Let me knwo what you suggest on that. The clutch, XTD STAGE 3 CLUTCH & X-LITE FLYWHEEL 93-99 ECLIPSE GSX off of Ebay as well.
The turbo part, I was thinking about doing once the engine was broken in. I would take a few months to build some cash to get a kit and then install it.
Now this is a big project for me that I would like to do, I know it isn't cheap and you will say that I'm better off selling my car and getting a GSX. GSX's are already done, there's no fun to them, I want to build something that I know what I did and i know how everything works.
MY main concern is about everyone's thoughts. Please let me know what you think or if you have any suggestions, I would really appreciate it. I am dropping a $550 deposit mid this week on the Slowboy racing motor unless I get told otherwise. I just want to know if my planned setup will be a go for a turbo. The 8.8:1 ratio seems pretty good but I'd like some more thoughts on that. Please feel free to comment and shoot me messages for anything. Thanks.
. Now, I just need a diagram of the 420A to go off of so I can see what I'm missing on it such as pulleys, and sensors.
