seat belt harnesses

[talon84]

has any one installed a 4 pt harness latley and if so which do you preffer. am going for saftey not looks.... thanks...

 

[jtmcinder]

Any 3" that meets SFI. I have G-Force.

If these are going in a daily-driver, pay the extra for a cam-lock. Trust me on this.

- Jtoby

 

[cait sith]

Ditto what J-Toby said.

I'm going Team Tech cam lock.

 

[slugsgomoo]

i just picked up two sparco 5pts from speedwaremotorsports.com for $99/ea (blue only, unfortunately). They are SFI rated, 3" and have cam locks. It's a pretty good deal for that price. You'll of course need a cage/harness bar, and/or some of the mounting brackets, which are $10/ea (you'll need one for each point that doesn't go around a bar, naturally).

hope that helps

 

[1LE]

Current SCCA rules have 6 pt as a minimum, with a 7pt setup recommended... Other sanctioning bodies usually follow their lead, so consider 5 pr's out if you're a road racer or stage rallyist. Cam lock is easiest to use, but if used in dirty environments they're more prone to jamming up than a latchlink is.

 

[jim97gst]

If you're going to use them everyday, you might consider these:

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/eclsafety.htm

I have sparco 4 point cam-lock harness that I'm perfectly happy with, but I only use it during autocross. There's no way I would use it everyday.

I've been told it's kind of unsafe to wear a harness without a roll bar, because you're head is all locked into place, and in the event of a rollover you have a better chance of being decapitated. The stock 3 point belt lets your body move side to side easier if need be in that situation. I don't know how much truth there is to that though.

 

[Defiant]

has any one installed a 4 pt harness latley and if so which do you preffer. am going for saftey not looks.... thanks...

Despite the huge jump in safety, you may find that real harnesses are illegal for road use if you're in a mandatory seatbelt-use state.

 

[1LE]

It's true that it's a bad idea to wear a real harness in a car without a roll cage. Compression of the spine is a bad thing. There *are* some street legal harnessbelts out there. Schroth makes some. They're 2" and either 3 (y-belt) or 4 point. The Schroth belts have a device in them to allow the body to move over some in the event of crash, hopefully avoiding the bodily harm that might otherwise occur in a rollover.

I can't think of any 3" or cam lock belt that is DOT certified. Not usually a problem with LEOs, but it's one more thing they could use against you in a stop Been awhile since I looked it up, but IIRC, the national belt law goes something like "must be DOT approved or pass a 2000lb static pull test"...

 

[jtmcinder]

It's true that it's a bad idea to wear a real harness in a car without a roll cage. Compression of the spine is a bad thing.

You seem to be mixing two issues.

Compression of the spine is cause by having an excessive angle to the shoulder-belts. Classic example is when the shoulder-belts use the rear-seat lap-belt anchors.

What happens when you wear a harness, roll the car, and have the roof crush in is your neck gets broken (with helmet) or your head gets mushed (without helmet).

- Jtoby