PTE or MHI Turbo

[DWR-DSM]

I can't decide on what turbo I should get, I have a 1G AWD TSI. I don't wanna get crazy, I just would like my DSM to run a 10sec without nos. I was looking into the MHI 20G or a ball bearing turbo from PTE. I believe I have every bolt on possible in my house waiting for me to put it on my DSM next month when I come home from Iraq. If anyone has one or any input would be great. Thanks!

 

[50trimmed1g]

I guess you should try to go with a pte Dual ball bearing 60-1 for you goals. 50 trim or 20g could do it but it would be much easier with a larger unit.

 

[DWR-DSM]

Would it be easier to run a larger unit because I would be able to pull more boost from it than the 20G? My car is a str8 street car, not a daily driver.

 

[hubz91talontsi]

"don't want to get crazy"

You said 10...maybe you think it is easy...
20g i don't think is going to cut it
A 60trim with a lot of money is the way you have to go.
You know that you will need around 500-600hp to run at 10?

 

[DWR-DSM]

I know how much HP, do you have any good sites where I can look at these turbos. Plus my honda is pushed a high 10 so I think I would have no problem doing this for my DSM before next summer.

 

[DWR-DSM]

So say I do get this 60trim Turbo, should I port the turbine inlet n outlet for better performance?

 

[dsmmatt28]

i agree 20g will not get you into the 10s. In fact there is more to the recipe to run 10s you cant just stick a big turbo on there and turn the boost up and say ok Now im running 10s. You have to add alot of fuel with that. also the driveline needs to be beefed up. Cause shit will break my friend. You have to think about suppension aswell. Not to mention you will need a roll cage when your running 11.5 of faster. Think about what you want out of your car first and then what you are going to have to do to get there. How much it will cost and how much shit are you willing to break to get there. If you want to run 10s thats fine just think about what it really really takes to get there. Its alot easier to run low 12s than it is to run 10s.

 

[DWR-DSM]

I have thought about all of that, I dont need a roll cage because this car is my street racing car. Suspension is already complete, the turbo is considered the last bolt-on I need. Once I decide which turbo I will add, the only that I would have to do is order a new racing motor and camshafts. Once I'm there it comes down to the tuning. Thats for the advice Matt

 

[1gDSM4g63]

...I just would like my DSM to run a 10sec without nos. I was looking into the MHI 20G or a ball bearing turbo from PTE.

I don't you what to say, you expected10s with a 20G or 60-1 it pretty much impossible. You need to be in the 600hp range in order to do that and to go into that range you'll have to have a highly modify engine with DSMLink or AEM EMS with a very good tuning.

 

[RonRonTSI]

ball bearing is a most

 

[Dragon TalonTsi]

I don't you what to say, you expected10s with a 20G or 60-1 it pretty much impossible. You need to be in the 600hp range in order to do that and to go into that range you'll have to have a highly modify engine with DSMLink or AEM EMS with a very good tuning.

Wow!!! You noobs are something else... You guys didn't even read Rule #3 before replying... If you have all the supporting mods, and you have all the tuning aspects dialed in to that specific car, you can get into 10s with a 20G or a 60-1 easy. There is a buddy of mine on here with a SCM 60-1 and he is running low 10.'s all day, with a built motor and all the supporting mods and no N2O (NOS)... I was in high 11's with my Evo 3, and I had all the supporting mods, with no NOS either... And no, 600 WHP isn't the only thing you need, you need torque as well, not just HP, that's only half the game... Listen, to the OP, it really is up to you and your budget, what is the car's goal (realistically), and your skills... Once you find that out, you won't need this website or its lurkers giving you bad advice... Find out for yourself, and be done with it...

PS... For the skeptics, here is a website dedicated and updated regularly to uphold our records for everything, you name it... DSMTimes.org - Home

 

[jongreene]

I have thought about all of that, I dont need a roll cage because this car is my street racing car. Suspension is already complete, the turbo is considered the last bolt-on I need. Once I decide which turbo I will add, the only that I would have to do is order a new racing motor and camshafts. Once I'm there it comes down to the tuning. Thats for the advice Matt

no offense but you sound like you are a total noob. your street "racing" car? I dont know how much youve visited this site but it isnt for "street racers".

If you want real help, post a mod list and a power goal.
Strapping on a huge expensive turbo isnt automatically going to get you the 1/4 mile times your after.

 

[DWR-DSM]

Jongreene, all I was looking for is a better turbo to put onto my car for better performance. This site may not be for street racers, but I wanted this car to only run on the street, and I have another car that is track. The main point of this forum is to decide which turbo I would like to use, seems like a lot of people here are getting a little off track from what I'm asking.

 

[turboglenn]

I have thought about all of that, I dont need a roll cage because this car is my street racing car. Suspension is already complete, the turbo is considered the last bolt-on I need. Once I decide which turbo I will add, the only that I would have to do is order a new racing motor and camshafts. Once I'm there it comes down to the tuning. Thats for the advice Matt

You MUST HAVE A CAGE to run 10's the second you crack 11.99 without one you will be asked to leave teh track, so unless you're going for a 10 on your first and only run you bettter get a cage. A good clutch and some stronger axles would be a good step too(depending if you have a 3 or 4 bolt rear end setup).

I've tuned a few hondas that are in the 10's, and my mitsubishi may be similar in the amount of mods, but do to weight, a higher geared gear box and a few other reasons; the DSM will take WAY more than your average lightweight honda to get into the 10's.

Like has been said above, there's not a "recipe" for 10's per-se, butyou are going to need more than the average guy to hit 10's...wether it's way better than average driver skill on a E3-16g, or a bigger turbo making the car pull that much harder... Either way there's a lot or work into 10's. And since you cna't hit 10's without getting into the 11's a few times, you will need a cage.

Good luck! Get home from Iraq safely and get out there and race that car...dont' worry about 10';s right off, go race and have fun... it will soon be apparent what else will be needed for your goals after you make a few passes... FOr now your goal is getting home safely, work on that and keep the US a free country ( i am taking it that you are armed services...who else would go to iraq on purpose )

If you're just wanting a fast street car now ( your last post) then i say 20g... I've been running a 57 trim on the street for years and years, and now i want a 20g for a better, wider powerband. Guys have gone 10's on less turbo, but those guys are working hard to wrench every last breath of performance from their vehicles and drivin them like they stole em

 

[DWR-DSM]

Thanks Turbo, once I come home I would run my car a few times to see what it is running with the smaller turbo first. I was thinking about the 20G because it is going to be more street but the 60-1 60 trim turbo seem much stronger. I think I can do it with a 20G if i build my motor & tune it good.