Need some Knowledgeable people.

[sillylepricon37]

I don't know if you all have read my other threads but the problem is still not resolved.

I am pulling timing really bad and my manifold glows cherry red; So does the Turbine housing. The car feels like it has no power and my wastegate is opening too early making this hilacious noise.

I have replaced the following.
-Ecu
-Knock Sensor
-Hooked the wastegate up right but it still makes that noise.
-Intake sounds like a turkey (Probably Compression Surge)
-FPR was un hooked, plugged it in.
-Spark plug wire was off, put that back on.
-Checked the turbo, seems to be fine.
-I get 100 miles to a tank of gas.
-A cold start up, and it wont rev above 2k.
-I can go 1 block down the road and the manifold glows.
-White Exhaust smoke. when its cold out. A lot of It.
-No check engine light
-No Codes
-Disconnected the exhaust and still the same problem.
-Mechanical Timing is dead on.
-Spark Plugs are in the correct firing order
-Threw on some RC550cc injectors and still the same problem except the idle jumped to almost 3 and stayed there!?

Tell me what you think. Im a little confused and cant come up with anything else.

 

[Demon33]

-It's an Internal Wastegate. O2 Downpipe
-I checked the converter by disconnecting the whole exhaust.
-No Wideband hooked up. Do have one but i am waiting for a new exhaust.
-Cam Timing is tight yes.
-About the timing- My Friend Did the Timing when the engine was out. We had the brand new kit. So nothing was re used. No big deal, We through the motor in. Everyone On this website is telling me Timing Timing Timing! So i told him and he got mad . He came over one day and checked the timing. I gave him a 1/2 in ratchet and he slowly turned it and said Wow It is so dead on it doesnt get any better. It doesn't even come from the factory timed this good. So that was that. I can tell him what you are saying but i don't think its the timing

But why is my Wastegate opening early!?

The timing everyone is referring to is IGNITION (SPARK) timing NOT THE TIMING BELT which controls cam and valve timing. Ignition timing is adjusted and set with a timing light by adjusting the CAS to 5 degree BTC. The engine needs to be at proper operating temperature and running when adjusting the ignition timing. Check your IGNITION timing. The procedure is in the VFAQ. My guess is that it's retarded greater than 5 degrees. Retarded timing WILL cause higher exhaust temps which if sufficient will cause your manifold and turbine housing to glow. Good luck!

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

Did you check for a vacuum leak

Boost leaks are also vacuum leaks on a turbo car.

 

[sillylepricon37]

The timing everyone is referring to is IGNITION (SPARK) timing NOT THE TIMING BELT which controls cam and valve timing. Ignition timing is adjusted and set with a timing light by adjusting the CAS to 5 degree BTC. The engine needs to be at proper operating temperature and running when adjusting the ignition timing. Check your IGNITION timing. The procedure is in the VFAQ. My guess is that it's retarded greater than 5 degrees. Retarded timing WILL cause higher exhaust temps which if sufficient will cause your manifold and turbine housing to glow. Good luck!

The IGNITION timing is not adjustable on a 99

 

[ckrummy]

Boost leaks are also vacuum leaks on a turbo car.

Yeah your right i never thought of it that way. Hook up that crazy device and start spraying around with soapy water, sounds like a plan.

 

[sillylepricon37]

I think my friend is gonna hook up his ecu with dsmlink and we'll diagnose the problem that way. since this is to much of a pain in the a$$.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

Sorry for the late response, did you get this fixed?

I hate to tell you, but if your friend checked the timing in the car, he is not checking it right. By properly checking PHYSICAL timing, you need to remove the covers and make sure that ALL of the timing marks are correctly aligned at TDC, not just the cam gear ones. Hopefully, that is how he checked it.

99's are not adjustable, but it doesn't hurt to just make sure the ignition timing is correct anyway. Just put on a timing light and verify.

Did you do a proper boost leak test? How much boost were you able to maintain?

What is your compression?

When diagnosing, you just stick with the basics.

 

[sillylepricon37]

its okay blcknspooln. I hate to hear your parting out your talon, or selling it. it's one of my top3 favorite dsms out there. GLWS.

anywaysss. A lot has changed. I bought my own dsmlink and got it all hooked up. I put my boost gauge in, and my wideband. I did a boost leak test and i was leaking and ungodly amount of air at the throttle body, the two far left injectors, and my bov. so i did the test at 25 psi and got all of the leaks fixed. Did a little bit of tuning and she is actually boosting and producing a little bit of power. it's at 10 degrees timing and pulling at 11.2:1 and idleing/driving without the turbo at 14.7-15:1, and idleing at 15:1-15:3... It barely starts in the cold and if i give it gas, it dies. but once it is to full runniing temperature its fine. The manifold still glows, but not nearly as bad. one thing is that the turbo lags quite a bit, but its a 16g and should spool pretty quickly. It will start to boost and show 10 psi on the gauge and then about 1.5 sec later it will kick in. It's worse in 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th gear. not so bad in 1st. let me know what you guys think.

Also, does having an 02 dump reduce hp? will i lose power by having a dump.