LS-1 MAF translator vs ARC-2/ VPC

[Silent2g]

water injection idea's.

now why would you have water going back to the mas air?
mine is bone dry, i do have water injection.

put the jet at the TB elbow, it gets sucked in anyways.

 

[ATF 2GTalon]

Since I keep seeing that quicker spoolup as a benefit, for the guys that bought it, can you do before and after turbo spoolup runs so we can get an idea of how many rpms faster your turbo spools. If you can let's say drop it by 300rpms, there would definitely be a lot of people with big turbos wanting one.

 

[Ramchargers]

If all you are looking for is 300RPM improvment then I will be a hero. It was better than that on a 16G which is already a fast spooler.
Mike

 

[DSMraver]

Sure was. More like 750rpm on a 16g.

***NOTE: this was with a 99.5% stock 1gmas, as well.*** Spoolup gains will be different with a hacked mas, but with the GM MAF, it will STILL be night and day.

 

[91TSiGuy]

Sure was. More like 750rpm on a 16g

!!!!

Please have enough of these being produced right now. I'm going to wait until I read the first parts review of the translator from a customer before I commit to purchasing one, but I'll be upset if my waiting that long results in an out of stock item.

 

[ATF 2GTalon]

Yes I know spoolup is car and turbo dependent but this at least gives a rough idea of what to expect.

I should of said I was running a Green now which generally hits full boost at 3800rpms. And the "pulled out of my ass" estimation of 300rpms is already pretty significant for the Green.

But 750rpms is just insane!!! I definitely want one now, as soon as I can locate a cheap MAF, and decide whether to go draw through or blow through.

 

[ttawd3s]

I would think the "GREEN" would see better benifit from it than a 16G...

 

[DSMraver]

Like I said before, it's not so much an on-off type of measurement, but there is a TON more power under the peak, and the turbo/motor is definately making more power, earlier in the rev-band.

Like I said, it's night and day, and my car only has a b16g/2.5" turbo back, and had the translator on it!

 

[gotwood?]

i dunno as soon as i see some piping for it and maybe have the money im definetly gonna change...

 

[CvicKila02]

Does anyone else have more info on this product it seems like it would really be a great investment. I know earlier in the post some people said they were going to buy it and try it out, can anyone who bought it say some more about this product. Thanks

-Dave

 

[Spinall4]

Ok, read through the whole thing and only had a couple questions. First will the open element cone K&N that most of us have work if we can find some sort of reducer? I think the opening on the K&N is either 4" or 4.5" but I'm not sure off of the top of my head. Second, can we use somthing like the Granatelli Motorsports maf's that summit sells? There quite expensive at around 330$ each plus shipping, but just wondering

 

[90AWDTalon]

Originally posted by DSMraver

1. takes literally 10 minutes to completely install, plug in the convertor box to the stock mas plug, plug in the GM mas, and tap one of the CAS wires, DONE!

3. almost NO restriction in the intake, as a by-product, the spoolup/turbo and BOV sounds are 1000% louder (for the riceboy in us all )

Sounds great, but these two statements have me a little confused. From what I get from this is the stock MAS is still in the car, but it is no longer a restriction in the intake. So I'm thinking that for this to be true the stock MAS isn't in the intake tract anymore but off to the side some where, is this correct? If I'm wrong then how does it work. Or is the stock MAS completly gone and when you said, "plug in the convertor box to the stock mas plug," are you talking about the wireharness not the actual MAS itself?

P.S. Some pics would be great. Some one said they had some, but we haven't seen them yet.

P.S.S. How you know if you need a 3" or 3.5" GM MAS?

 

[DrZiplok]

Ok. Since I've been pretty well schooled on this by now, I think I can answer this.

A question first though; has anyone found an online source for these MAFs? Most junkyards online are quoting > $100, wheras folks have been saying that 10-20 is a more reasonable junkyard price.

Originally posted by 90AWDTalon

Sounds great, but these two statements have me a little confused. From what I get from this is the stock MAS is still in the car, but it is no longer a restriction in the intake.

No. The stock MAS is removed. Gone. Dumped. Never to be hooked up again.

P.S.S. How you know if you need a 3" or 3.5" GM MAS?

The 3" MAS should be adequate for most applications.

The Gratanelli sensors are overpriced, and reading between the lines are not calibrated in the same fashion as the sensors that Ramchargers are recommending. I'd suggest staying away from them, especially at the prices that are being charged for them.

 

[1 fast POS]

Looks like the translator has a 1G harness and a GM MAS harness. Is the 2G the same unit, or a different one? Or do you have to samurai the wires to make the 2G harness work?

 

[91TSiGuy]

A 3000gt/stealth verson is being sold which uses the same type of harness the 2g mas does. That one will work for ya.

 

[ttawd3s]

www.GMpartsdirect.com sells the 3.5'' LS-1 MAF for $105 brand new... For the same price you can get the LS-6 MAF thats 3.75'' But I wouldn't think a DSM would need over a 3'' LT-1 style, which I'd bet GM parts direct sells too..

 

[dunndilly]

this translator is awesome!! I'm getting one as soon as I get the money. I have a 3" intake pipe, if I get a 3" maf do I still need a plumbing reducer? Also what car is an LT-1?

 

[DrZiplok]

Originally posted by ttawd3s
www.GMpartsdirect.com sells the 3.5'' LS-1 MAF for $105 brand new... For the same price you can get the LS-6 MAF thats 3.75'' But I wouldn't think a DSM would need over a 3'' LT-1 style, which I'd bet GM parts direct sells too..

$98.16. Screw the junkyard, I'm buying new.

 

[RedlinedTSi]

Got a used one for $30 shipped to my door.

 

[16gkid]

How could u install a blow through set up ?

 

[larryd]

cut your uicp, put the maf anywhere on that pipe, inbetween the BOV and the Throttle body if you intend on venting to the atmosphere. You would also need 2 reducer couplings from the MAF to the piping.

 

[eclipse2via]

Originally posted by DrZiplok


$98.16. Screw the junkyard, I'm buying new.

Mike what part number is that? Is it the 3" or 3 1/2". Website sucks unless you have part number.

 

[4wd-Eclipse]

It's 25180303
go back to page 3.

I'm not sure please correct my if wrong

 

[Ramchargers]

I stuck a little info up on the site at 5PM Mon night I have been home sick in bed ever since. I have more text part numbers and the rest I just need to get heatlthy enough to get back to work. I will keep tryig to answer these questions.
Mike

 

[GVR-4]

Mike, hats off to you for keeping up with all these questions. Here's another: Can the GM MAS handle the pressure/volume in a blow through set up? Obviously they were designed for a draw through application. But we'll be forcing up to 22psi through this thing if it's blow through. Aren't MASs still a bit fragile?

Dave Peter