Jeep TB review

[madracer247@aol]

A guys I was wondering if I get the TB FROM THE JEEP WILL IT BE a direct bolt on Or wil It be a custom job???

 

[Doug99RS]

No, modifications are required. Both throttle bodies have to be disassembled and then reassembled with the correct parts. It's actually no longer a Jeep TB nor an Eclipse TB. It's now a hybrid.

 

[Malenko]

your wiper fluid is low.

and you valve cover missing threw me off for a minute

 

[Doug99RS]

That's not wiper fluid. It's mouth wash. My bottle in my apartment was leaking.

Well how about this pic?

 

[wookieneck]

Doug or Toney,
I have emailed Toney a couple times trying to say "hey, I want one" and havent gotten any response , probably getting caught in a junkmail filter.

I need to know if [email protected] is the address to paypal the cash to, how long before I can expect it to ship out and the address to ship you guys my core. (will just be sending my stock clipse parts)

Thanks

 

[Doug99RS]

Toney has not been able to get online for a while now. He goes to State college here and they are out for spring break. So he doesn't have everyday access to the internet to check his email and PMs.

We've currently got a list of at least ten people. I asked Toney to stop taking names until we are able to start sending some out. This is enough work to last me at least two months. There are several reasons for this. First, my supply of cores is small (meaning I only have two on hand not including what's on our cars), second is the only jeep throttle body we have is on my car now and I am still in the process of testing it (though it's working flawlessly now), and third I don't send out a throttle body unless it's been on my car or Toney's for any less than two weeks. I am trying very hard to make sure the TB's I send out are worth having. Each time I make one I do a better job. Finally, I work full time as a dealership technician and Toney is a student who also works after school. I am making these things in my spare time so unfortunately I can't turn them out at a rapid pace.

I don't mean to put anyone off or discourage them from buying from Toney and I. But I feel you guys should know that it has and always will be a slow process to get a Hybrid TB from us.

The way things normally work is like this. Toney deals with customer relations i.e. taking the order, he's got the paypal account/mailing account, he gets the money and the core charge, I build the TB and port match the Throttle body opening in the upper manifold to the TB outlet side, I then test them on my car, possibly on his car as well if time permits, then I give him the product to ship out. Normally, I like to allow as much time to get the core back as it takes for me to build, test and ship the product. Meaning you pay us and it takes two weeks to get the product to you, you have two weeks to get us the core back. I think that's only fair. After we receive the core, I inspect it and determine the core fit to use then we reimburse the core charge. Should I find ANY of the core to be damaged or unfit to use then ALL of the core charge is forfeit. If everything is good then we normally refund within a day or two of my inspection.

If the buyer choses to retain the core then we will keep the core charge. If the buyer fails to return the core within a reasonable time then they will receive an email requesting an explanation as to why we have not received the core. If I do not get a response or a response I am happy with then Toney then emails again. Again the same goes. If a tracking number is not given within two days of the final email then the core charge will not be refunded. This has happened before and I have no problem keeping the hundred bucks and going out to eat at McD's then replacing the core.

It's all pretty cut and dry. Buyer doesn't screw me, I don't screw buyer. I offer tech support to buyers in the form of install instructions, tech background on the car and the product as well as sometimes even talking just to pass the time. Malenko and I talk every now and again and share pics of the cars and stuff. Toney and I are in a club here in NC and just about everyone can vouch for my work ethics and desires to provide quality work and valuable assistance.
Doug

 

[wookieneck]

Bummer, I will wait for him to drop me a line when you guys get caught up. Thanks

 

[Doug99RS]

We'll probably start back here soon. He's got paychecks rolling in and I'm about through testing this one. I just want to run it at the track and make it to a meet or two before taking it off.
Doug

 

[Malenko]

I frequently talk to both of them and Doug is a wiseman for a good reason!
and Im pretty sure that when I get my car back this saturday I'll be the only 2GNT turboed with a Jeep Throttle Body =)

All I can say is that they got the jeepie out to me fast (before all this demand) and refunded my core charge very promptly.

I plan to snap some pix of the engine bay with the turbo and Jeep TB installed, so stay tuned!

 

[siueclipse]

i would like to put one on as well, so malenko isn't the only turboed car with one.

hehehe

 

[Malenko]

I'll still be first! haha

 

[siueclipse]

hehe DAMNIT..

 

[Chuckt]

to start with , im a newbie, so bare with me... haha, i read all the posts and this sounds like a great mod. As of right now, i have an Ingen CAI and would love to start making some other decent mods on my car that actually show in my performance without spending $300-500. As i said i read the posts and i want to make sure i get this right. We pay for the jeep throttle body, (which is really a hybrid or and eclipse tb and a jeep tb built by you guys) then we swap out our stock tb and put in the hybrid, then basically sell you out stock tb to you so you can reuse it on another hybrid... i think i have it right but just making sure, also, what all consists of swapping out the throttle body???

 

[wookieneck]

4 bolts holding the upper on
2 bolts holding on the throttle linkage
2 or 3 hoses
2 or 3 wiring clips and yank your cold air off.
Oh , and two bolts holding on the EGR piping , its pretty much gravy.
These guys supply the gasket too from what I understand.

 

[dsmrunnah95]

From what I read, for $250 they supply the intake manifold with the throttle body already installed. After you install the manifold you send yours and they refund $100 back.

 

[wookieneck]

I think it was 275 , then 100 dollar rebate if your core is useable. I dont remember what they credit for the Jeep TB if you send it. I looked and looked for one of those and its just cheaper for them to supply it. Im just waiting for the word from Toney that they are caught up and I will slap him with a little paypal.

Bummer I couldnt get one while the head was off , would have been easier.

 

[eclipse13]

ok let me make sure i have this right.
-i send u $275
-u send me a jeep throttle body with upper manifold gasket, EGR tube gasket, purge solenoid to throttle body vacuum hose adapter, modified upper manifold and jeep throttle body pre-assembled.
- then i install everything and send u my stock upper manifold and my stock throttle body
-if it is usable u send me $100 back
-and all i have to get for myself is an aftermarket intake

i am just trying to make sure this is right. i don't even know what a throttle body is but i know a place where i could get it installed.

 

[Doug99RS]

Yeah, that's it. That's the way it works

And for fifty and a road trip... I'd install it too. I know someone there in Wilmington who might let me sleep on his floor or you could roll up this way to Raleigh and I could install it here. But of course... you'd have to be next on the list and I still haven't gone back to selling them.
Doug

 

[madracer247@aol]

so what exactly do I need to do this could somebody explain

 

[Doug99RS]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43741

 

[wookieneck]

Doug,

You said that you had to take out your neuspeed bar, that it wouldnt clear the Jeep TB. Is there any strut bar that would clear it?

 

[2FST4U]

I know you have a turbo, but this is'nt required right? Would this work on a 97 talon? Very interested. I have a tb from my 2000 wrangler. I blew the motor in it 2 months ago. would this tb work? The next question is do we need bigger injectors, exhaust work? to get any gains would we need to be pushin more fuel? If no what is giving us the increase?

 

[1TuffRS]

no fuel mods are necessary for this mod, the PCM will compensate for the additional air coming in. As long as your jeep wrangler has the 4.0L I6 that TB will definitely work.

Wookie, I never recieved an email from you, and yes it is [email protected]. I respond to all the TB emails with a standard message and then we go from there. It may have been sent to my bulk mail, which is almost always nothing but spam so I delete it without even looking at it. Try PMing me next time.

Having a turbo is NOT necessary, neither doug or myself have turbos on our cars.

The nuespeed strut bar isnt like normal bars, it connects to the strut tower in a different location than the traditional bars and if it was just an inch or two higher it would fit. I had a normal strut tower bar and the nuespeed bar on my car at the same time, I just had to remove the nuespeed bar in order for the mod to work (fit).

 

[2FST4U]

my bad sorry i thought you guys had turbos

 

[Doug99RS]

The gains from this mod are pretty simple to explain. When we press the accelerator down all we do is let in air. The bigger the opening you have to let in air the more fuel the computer will spray. So now we're getting more air in intake quicker. The computer sees this and then adds more fuel. The amount of air is NOT enough to subject the injectors to extra long duty-cycles (amount of time the injectors stay open, the longer the duty cycle the more fuel it sprays, too long of duty cycle will burn up injectors and drop fuel pressure too low) and the computer easily compensates for the extra air.

The Nuespeed bar mounts to the same stud used to secure the upper control arm to the body of the car. It's just to the rear of the actual strut tower brace. I don't really expect too many people to have any problems with the strut braces. Both Toney and I are running true strut tower braces and have run the Jeep TBs with no problem. I only mentioned the Neuspeed rear bar so it wouldn't be a suprise to the few that actually had one. The Neuspeed bar hits the idle motor housing becuase the Jeep TB has it on what is now the top closest to the hood and the two will hit.

If anyone HAS a Jeep TB and wants it modified to fit on the car, get in touch with Toney and we'll get a new figure together for using your jeep tb and our cores.
Doug