Jdm Swap I Need Help!!!!!

[KC_GST]

I recently purchased a JDM 97' GST motor for my 95' GST. Well today the garage called and saide that the engine is a little bit different. He said the manifolds are different and a couple other things. Will this swap work OK. ANY RESPONSE WOULD BE GREAT!!

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

Well the only JDM motors I've ever heard are from the old Galants in Japan.

Some pics would help.

 

[my_gst95]

No such thing as JDM 2G's really. If it's a 7bolt from japan, it's possibly from an evo3. ANYWAY, it depends on which manifold they are refering to. Exhaust mani? Intake Mani? And if it's the intake manifold, does it say CYCLONE on it? If it's the exhaust manifold, I would just use your original manifold. But pics would help

my_gst95

 

[KC_GST]

No such thing as JDM 2G's really. If it's a 7bolt from japan, it's possibly from an evo3. ANYWAY, it depends on which manifold they are refering to. Exhaust mani? Intake Mani? And if it's the intake manifold, does it say CYCLONE on it? If it's the exhaust manifold, I would just use your original manifold. But pics would help

my_gst95

No it doesn't say cyclone on it it looks exactly like my old engine, the people said that certain parts were just located in different spots but the place I got it from says it is a 97 GSX motor from Japan does this make any sense?? Email me and I will send you a picture of the motor.They said that they can install it but they need a gasket set to install it correctly.

 

[dsmayhem]

Does not make any sense. Being the Eclipse/Talon etc are all USDM cars, the only way it could be a 97GSX engine would be if someone imported an Eclipse to Japan and you happen to be getting that motor. In all likelyhood it's a 7bolt Evo I-III motor.

 

[KC_GST]

Why would he need a gasket set to install it??

Does not make any sense. Being the Eclipse/Talon etc are all USDM cars, the only way it could be a 97GSX engine would be if someone imported an Eclipse to Japan and you happen to be getting that motor.

Hey I am going to upload a picture of it under my gallery so that you can check it out and maybe help me.OK THE ENGINE PIC IS ON MY GALLERY NOW

 

[dsmayhem]

Why would he need a gasket set to install it??

Good question. I am finishing up my 6bolt swap and I did't need any gasket sets except for the front cover gasket set due to me removing the balance shafts. As for the intake manifold...not all cyclone manifolds say "CYCLONE" on them. The one I got is a cyclone intake and it just says ECI Turbo Intercooler or something along those lines.

 

[KC_GST]

Well what do you think??? It looks like my old motor? IS IT Different

 

[dsmayhem]

Well it's definately not a standard 2G motor. That turbo is some sort of 14b or 16g. The valve cover looks like its a titanium color which may very well make it a Evo motor. What color are the injectors and how many bolts on the flywheel? What does the inside of the turbo look like? Anything like this HERE or does it have less unstaggered fins?

 

[KC_GST]

Well can this be installed into my car ??? What kind of parts would I have to buy for it??

 

[dsmayhem]

Well can this be installed into my car ??? What kind of parts would I have to buy for it??

Yes it can be installed on your car. Its a 4G63...be it 7 bolt or 6bolt it should work. You will probably need a new lower intercooler pipe, possibly a clutch, possibly a flywheel and to possibly rewire the CAS(if it is a 6bolt.)

Here is the 6bolt in a 2G info...
http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/1g2g.asp

 

[KC_GST]

I was told that it was a 7 bolt, if it is what all will i need?? How much do you think it would cost in extra parts?? Where could I sell this motor? How much is it worth?? WHERE could i get a 2G turbo engine at a decent price???

 

[dsmayhem]

I was told that it was a 7 bolt, if it is what all will i need?? How much do you think it would cost in extra parts??

With that turbo you WILL need some sort of new lower intercooler piping.
I am using this from dejontool...

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Depending on the shape of your flywheel and or clutch you may need a new one of each..or possibly neither. Will depend on what it looks like when ya pull it off.

You should be able to swap things over like your oil filter housing to the new block. I'm not sure if you will have to rewire your CAS on a 7bolt Evo motor.

... In all honesty you will probably be able to find a 6bolt JDM or otherwise for cheaper than that Evo 7bolt. You could always look on www.dsmtrader.com for a used 2G engine.

 

[KC_GST]

If I got this up and running how much faster would it be than a 2g motor

 

[dsmayhem]

Being that it is the exact same engine for the most part ...not that much faster. The only big reason it would be faster is that it comes with a bigger turbo. Probably a 16G of some sort. Put the same turbo on a regular 2G and you'll be just as fast for the most part.

 

[got_no_sol]

Sounds like you bought the EXACT same engine I did. I didn't notice your gallery so if you want to make sure it's the same check mine out here

aim me @ adreane3984 with any questions

 

[Lordpaxin]

Thats from a GALANT.
you can tell by the intake hose position.

and that is a Blitz Super sound JDM stock bov.
on the galant RS? i think.

Its Not a cyclone manifold, the Coil packs arent in the typical cyclone many lication.

looks like 2g coil locations.

yea, im gonna go with galant Rs. expect a small16g i think.

 

[my_gst95]

That didn't come out of an eclipse. That motor was either from a Galant or Evo 1-3. The way the intake routes to the middle like that was how it was placed. That 7bolt should have lower compression then your standard 2g 7bolt, so you probably can run more boost a bit more safely. But yes, to answer your question, it will work. No new seals needed unless your replacing the front case as was said earlier. Maybe camshaft seals if the engine has highmileage.

Good luck

my_gst95

 

[KC_GST]

Well would you guys recommend trying to get this up and running, or try to get ahold of a standard 2G engine. Which route would be cheaper to go?? By the way thanks for all the help.If it is a galant RS would that make it a 6 or 7 bolt?

 

[my_gst95]

Just look at the flywheel bolt pattern. If it's a 7bolt pattern, its out of an EVO. If it is infact a good running motor, it would be cheaper to go this route and should make you happier then a 2g block in the long run. Bolt up your original waterpipe, intake mani, exhaust mani, flywheel, fuel rail, and sensors. It all bolts up. Have fun.

my_gst95

 

[dsmayhem]

1. If it doesn't have yellowtop injectors its not from a Galant RS.

2. If it is from a Galant RS, it is a 6bolt.

I would read up here....
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/4g63motorsearch.htm

Also! Lordpaxin is right if that was a cyclone intake the coils would be HERE and not in the stock 2G location.

 

[got_no_sol]

Well would you guys recommend trying to get this up and running, or try to get ahold of a standard 2G engine. Which route would be cheaper to go?? By the way thanks for all the help.If it is a galant RS would that make it a 6 or 7 bolt?

shouldn't have to change too much besides the intake manifold as long as you got the turbo with the car.