IPT's Tranny Boost Controller

[halik008]

do you have any pics of the wire and your install of the switch for lock up? or wiring diagram? and a picture or wiring diagram for installing a variable resistor for adjusting the shift firmness?? I'd like to install those in my talon (also if you do i'd say that'd be perfect article for the tech guide.)

as for thinking a business is gonna loose money because of people figuring out how the switch for the pressure of the shifts works...sure they WILL but i highly doubt you'll go out of business....I'm sure if that was the case, many people would have gone out of business once someone figured out how to make a manual boost controller, weld an exhaust, or make an intake. There will always be people willing to pay money for *professional made products rather than make there own.

get one of the DSM service manauls on CD (i recommend DSM MAN version) and it hass all the info u'll need

As for the price being so high, i can follow IPT's economic reasoning, tho wrong. I belive they set the price up so high so they can make a return on thier investment with very few of the units sold. They figured that they unit is so easy to make and so simple to make that soon then later somebody will post how to make these units, untimately greastely reducing the number of potentital buyers that rather make thier own then buy one. So instead of having to sell for example 500 units at $100 each to recover thier investment, they decided to sell 100 units at $500 each fearing the secret of the box would be revealed way before the 500th unit is sold.


Now while this reasoning is sound, they miss a huge factor when setting the price and that is the relation of price vs. desire to invent cheaper alternative. So while they took actions to recover thier investment fast they exponentially increased the desire of individuals to invent cheaper alternative.

If their product was more resonably priced $150 for the shift box and $50 for the "boost controller", even i would consider buying one instead of bothering making my own.

halik

 

[definitiveno]

Halik, look back on page 1

 

[halik008]

I understand. I am pretty active when I'm in my car, paying attention to my guages all the time, tending to the TC switch would not be an issue for me. I wouldn't bother locking it up until 2nd gear (if only to make it smoother). The problem I find is driving through the mountains, given the varying loads the TC never wants to lock up or stay locked once it has. I'm afraid I'm going to burn up the trans one of these days cruising up the hill. I snowboard all the time.

Since the season is coming up I have to have a locker. And if I can't find an alternative I'm going to have to buy that silly gear selecter box.

he he he then you don't really need to lock up switch it to being with..... all the lock up does is create mechanical connection between the crank and the input shaft of the transmission vs. having ATF doing the motion transfer. All it really does is keeps the ATF at lower temperature. It extends the life of ATF more then anything....

1 gens don't even have lock ups....

halik

 

[definitiveno]

he he he then you don't really need to lock up switch it to being with..... all the lock up does is create mechanical connection between the crank and the input shaft of the transmission vs. having ATF doing the motion transfer. All it really does is keeps the ATF at lower temperature. It extends the life of ATF more then anything....

1 gens don't even have lock ups....

halik

No, I have the locker. I meant to say locker switch.

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[halik008]

No, I have the locker. I meant to say locker switch.

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i know i'm saying you don't need it for the reason u described above. All lock up does it reduce the heat created by the TC and improves ATF life. It's not going to "burn up your transmission".... he he he specially not in the winter.

Granted i have big Hayden cooler, on colder 30 degrees or lower, my ATF temperature barely makes it into 120's and that's after 45 mins of city driving.

Normal operating temperature is 150-180

On very hot days 90 degrees ....i'm in the 180-200 range...

So i highly doubt u could overheat the ATF .......

halik

 

[definitiveno]

spirited mountain driving > city


no prob, I'll look elsewhere.

 

[halik008]

spirited mountain driving > city


no prob, I'll look elsewhere.

well your mind is made up no matter what facts you are given......

i'll PM you what u need later today....

halik

 

[definitiveno]

well your mind is made up no matter what facts you are given......

i'll PM you what u need later today....

halik

I just don't feel I need to explain it to ya,

I said I want to do it for economy and to keep trans temps down while I'm cruising. I'd like to have the locker for dyno testing, driving on the freeway (like I said, just about any load, maybe from a slight hill, it comes unlocked) but ultimatly for fuel economy. I have a 4200 stall and with even the slightest load the locker disenguages, I can recall when I first put the trans in my gas milage went down the crapper. As for the temps, driving up a hill, for about an hour, at half throttle, TC fully unlocked, weather is still in the 60-70's around socal mountain, with my high stall, there will be heat. I have a tranny temp guage so I can unlock it if I actually get below operating temps, but I'm sure the climb will keep things warm.

 

[halik008]

I just don't feel I need to explain it to ya,

I said I want to do it for economy and to keep trans temps down while I'm cruising. I'd like to have the locker for dyno testing, driving on the freeway (like I said, just about any load, maybe from a slight hill, it comes unlocked) but ultimatly for fuel economy. I have a 4200 stall and with even the slightest load the locker disenguages, I can recall when I first put the trans in my gas milage went down the crapper. As for the temps, driving up a hill, for about an hour, at half throttle, TC fully unlocked, weather is still in the 60-70's around socal mountain, with my high stall, there will be heat. I have a tranny temp guage so I can unlock it if I actually get below operating temps, but I'm sure the climb will keep things warm.

never said u need to explain it to me.....the fact still is that you don't really need it.....obviousy u have temp gauge and your not overheating your ATF..

you will do more harm to the tranny incorectly engaging the lock up then the heat created by the non-locked TC.....


halik

 

[definitiveno]

never said u need to explain it to me.....the fact still is that you don't really need it.....obviousy u have temp gauge and your not overheating your ATF..

you will do more harm to the tranny incorectly engaging the lock up then the heat created by the non-locked TC.....


halik

Does john at IPT know this? You should tell him so he can take his product off the market right away.


I gotta say, for the amount of talk you put into this thread it's kinda sad that you won't step up to the plate. "john overcharges, how inexpensive to make, how easy" yet all you want to do is tell me what I need and don't need for my car. No offense but you can't have my money now. Capitol america, you could have had 100 bucks. Lazy america, you passed up the oportunity.

Oh well, I'll send an email out to TCUgo and see if I can get one of there proto units....

 

[bnpimpn]

isnt halik involved in the TCUgo project?

 

[definitiveno]

isnt halik involved in the TCUgo project?

It would be interesting if he was, I would much rather have that unit than the Shift Box.


I like that they put all the down shifting safety parameters in their unit.

 

[halik008]

Does john at IPT know this? You should tell him so he can take his product off the market right away.

no need to do that.......manually switching the lock-up will not do any hard as long as you activate it when it suppose to be activasted.....highed speed and constant speed. That's how they were designed to used. Reason why lock up doesn't actiavte until them is because it will bog down the engine and bump upon engagement at lower speeds and rpm's, putting stress on the actual transmission. Very much like amaturely dumping a clutch on manual cars.....

What you want to do is just that.....activate the lockup clutch in conditions that are not favorable to do so, thus putting unwanted stress on the tranrmission.

I gotta say, for the amount of talk you put into this thread it's kinda sad that you won't step up to the plate. "john overcharges, how inexpensive to make, how easy" yet all you want to do is tell me what I need and don't need for my car. No offense but you can't have my money now. Capitol america, you could have had 100 bucks. Lazy america, you passed up the oportunity.

Sorry buddy...... I wasn't planing on making you one nor was i planing on charging you anything for my adivse how to make one. Reason i won't "step up to the plate" if because i have my hands full with school, work, getting my inusrance claim thru so i can get my dsm fixed on top of all other shit.

I never said you shouldn't make one....i simply said u don't need it and using it in a way u described will do more harm to the tranny then hotter ATF ever will. I couldn't care less what u do to your car......you can paint it pink and have a water fountain on the hood for all i care.

My offer still stands tho....if you want to know how to make one YOURSELF.....PM me.....

halik

 

[halik008]

isnt halik involved in the TCUgo project?

nope not TCUgo.......but pretty much something very similar to that just simpler.......can't say much otherwise this thread will be deleted like my original one.....

halik

 

[definitiveno]

What you want to do is just that.....activate the lockup clutch in conditions that are not favorable to do so, thus putting unwanted stress on the tranrmission.

It would obviously take some time with the locker to say for certain when i would lock it, but toying with my TCU controlled trans I can get the transmission to lock on it's own in second by fethering the gas.


Without any gas, or just a very little, it puts the trans at about the same speed as the fly allowing for easy lock up. I'm not talking about just flipping the swich, although john says the lock up feature on my TC is strong enough to use even when I'm dragging the car I would only use it daily lifting the gas momentarily so that the converter can easily enguage and speed match. I also would learn where the enguagment and RPM was so that once it enguaged it wouldn't place me under 2500-3000 rpm.


I know how my trans works, I'm not just buying buttons, .

 

[booosting92tsi]

IPT's Tranny Boost Controller , i'm making my own, not spending $175...... any one has built it? all i need to know are the resistances for the 5 position sweeper...........

 

[johnfsmith]

IPT's Tranny Boost Controller , i'm making my own, not spending $175...... any one has built it? all i need to know are the resistances for the 5 position sweeper...........

Good luck in getting those numbers... Doubt you'll find anyone willing to help you steal their hard work!

 

[talonkev]

Check out this mod http://www.rmtmods.ca/manual shift.htm . I did it to my car and it works great. It similar to the "boost box" but with this you have to manually shift the transmission up. You can short shift the gears, which is really cool. But downshifting is highly not recommended while the mod is engaged. The mod does make the upshift alot fast and firmer though.

 

[johnfsmith]

Check out this mod http://www.rmtmods.ca/manual shift.htm . I did it to my car and it works great. It similar to the "boost box" but with this you have to manually shift the transmission up. You can short shift the gears, which is really cool. But downshifting is highly not recommended while the mod is engaged. The mod does make the upshift alot fast and firmer though.

If you want to manually shift checkout this... http://www.tcugo.com/ You can upshift and downshift safely plus much more!

 

[bnpimpn]

i've been following the progress they've made with that product for a loooooong time.....now that they finally got the web site up and running.....how do i order it????!!! the "contact us" and "To order a TCUGO or for any informations click HERE" button both require passwords.....I WANT THIS THING!!! .....seriously

 

[johnfsmith]

i've been following the progress they've made with that product for a loooooong time.....now that they finally got the web site up and running.....how do i order it????!!! the "contact us" and "To order a TCUGO or for any informations click HERE" button both require passwords.....I WANT THIS THING!!! .....seriously

Email him at [email protected]

 

[LandoAWD]

IPT's Tranny Boost Controller , i'm making my own, not spending $175...... any one has built it? all i need to know are the resistances for the 5 position sweeper...........

Sorry, R&D costs factor into the bottom line on products. DIY is fine, but don't expect the key to the skunkworks to be handed to you.

YOU go do teh R&D and report back if/when you figure it out. I'll bet you wouldn't want to give that knowledge away, and you'll probably wish you spent the 175 instead of wasting alot of time.