intercooler and intake re-route

[darkiller_666]

I was wondering if i run a short route intercooler would it be possible to reroute the intake pipe through where the side mount intercooler pipes used to run and have my intake filter near the opening in my front bumper. I know the MAF is reliant on air velocity so i didnt know if moving the filter farther from the MAf would screw up the signals at all? I was also thinking about building a sheet metal cover for as much of my intake pipe as i can. I was thinking if i put 1 layer of SM then a layer of silicone and then another SM on top of the silicone if it would help to keep my intake temps down? Hopefully the outside layer of SM and silicone will keep it from turning into an oven. Was alos thinking about trying to wire a cooling element off of the battery source on the inside of my potential cooling box. Any ideas or suggestions on things previously tried like this would be awesome, just shooting ideas out here trying to get an edge.

 

[1gDSM4g63]

It'd make it easier to switch to a GM MAF w/ translator near the throttle body coupled with the IC pipe and doing the things above that you mention. However, I'd probably go with a FMIC first before doing all that.

 

[darkiller_666]

I am currently in the process of building a short route intercooler pipes and looking for a good front mount to use. i am a pretty limited budget and cant just pop off and buy a MAFT and gm MAF i would if i could. Still wondering if moving the filter farther from the mitsu stock MAF will affect the reading to the ECU....

 

[1gDSM4g63]

Probably wouldn't.

 

[darkiller_666]

does anyone have more experience or knowledge about moving the filter farther from MAF?? trying to build as much knowledge as possible before i start this. anyone have any knowledge of the cold box im trying to mkae or running coolant element to drop intake temps. Does anyone know the differences in the intake tempature relates to horsepower gas mileage and reliability?

 

[dlb21]

I have a friend that did that and he never mentioned any ill effects. He placed his air filter were the stock side mount is located. If the intake air is cooler then it would be more dense allowing more air through the turbo thus more power/better gas (less effort on the engine/ more air in) Im no expert but i believe my resoning is correct. What do you think

 

[darkiller_666]

that is where i was going with the idea. i was hoping someone had some more specific info on how much intake temps affects hp and so on. I know it would help some but not sure if much. I think i am going to go ahead with the project. i plan on running a PCV endcap where my old foglamps were, from the ENDCAp i plan on running some felx exhaust pipe to a box that will have the filter in it. I plan on a the box where the old Sidemount intercooler was. im going to use 2 layers of sheet metal with high temp silicone between the two and then installiong a coolant element thatll run off the battery... I also plan on making a box to cover as much of the intake pipe in the engie bay as possible. When driving it should hopefully allow better air flow due to the opening and tube coming from the front bumper and hopefully atleast somewhat drop some intake temps. This combined with the short route im building im hoping it will cause less time to boost do to less volume being filled combined with lower intake temps and more airflow. I figure itll be a good DIY and might help.

 

[dlb21]

Ive been thinking about doing a similar mock "RAM" air system like the one your describing. I have the stock fog light off and was thinking about placing a big PVC or similiar and run it up to the stock air box is at (mines hacked no box) Ive also heard that cutting up an old stiraphome cooler would help keep the heat away as it is a good insulator. Wish I had the link. Also heat wraping the exhaust and turbo will help out. I know on a natural asperated engine this would help out tremendously (friends done it to his old cop crown vic and we notice a difference) so its definatly going to help out, plus as you said its a good DIY project. Let us know if you notice a some/big diffence.

 

[KPEclipse]

i dont think it'll affect reading to the MAF. I run 2g MAF with no filter, and there's no problem with that on my ECU. Now I probably SHOULD run a filter, but the MAF is just fine, and I get the same readings to my ECU as I did with a filter (saw that thru dsmlogger before I sold it)

 

[Gstclipse69]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/bolt-tech/298216-cold-air-intake-project.html
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-intake-exhaust/195667-diy-ram-air-duct-cold-air-intake.html
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-intake-exhaust/194759-diy-cold-air-intake.html
Several of your ideas have been done before with success. The box around the filter, moving the filter to the sidemount location, and making a ram air duct for the intake are all good ideas and have dramatically reduced intake temps which is a very good thing.
I wouldnt bother running any sort of cooling element. Either moving the filter or boxing it in with a ram air duct of some sort will be all that you need. And any of these will not affect the reading from the maf.

 

[darkiller_666]

thanx for all the info and words of advice, the other right ups are very similiar to what i was thinking of doing. I have a cooling element out of a small freezer and am planning on running it through a switch and seeing if it helps any.