installing GM MAF on a GS

[TT_NS]

any one ever figure out how to wire a GM MAF onto a N/T 1g?

 

[Spoolio]

not to sound rude or anything, but what is really the point?, alot of guys that do the gm maf + maf-t on a 1G is so they can vent thier BOV, but in this case your N/T, i can see if your just doing it to get some more air in your motor, but im not sure how great of an upgrade this is on a N/T, buy some headers, or intakes or something, alteast youll see a difference.

 

[TT_NS]

I know what I'm doing. I'm going through with a build. It would be nice to have a straight shot into the intake and not have that big monster in the way. I'm building a stroked 2.3 with 13:1 C/R.

 

[XakEp]

I know what I'm doing. I'm going through with a build. It would be nice to have a straight shot into the intake and not have that big monster in the way. I'm building a stroked 2.3 with 13:1 C/R.

You arent pressurizing the air - you might as well just put the intake right through the hood and put a gigantic hood scoop on. The number of bends wont matter.

Dont waste your time with the GM MAF-T.

 

[staticbrainwash]

I agree with the above. You're not going to net enough gains for the hastle. If you really feel the need to upgrade, just get a CAI and upgrade to a 2g MAS. And honestly man, reading you're past couple threads just because you're building a 2.3 stroker NA with 13:1 CR doesn't mean you "know what you're doing". I sat on this site for a year and a half before i started posting. Just reading everything i could, and i still get stuff wrong. So don't assume just because you're building some 2.3L (why you didn't go with a 2.4 is beyond me) that you're now an expert.

 

[1stGenRocks]

It should be the same as wiring it into a 1g turbo. The mas plug and wiring is the same.

To all the haters this is actually a good idea since on a NT its even more important to have a free flowing intake. Not sure if it will be cost effective but it wont hurt.

 

[Spoolio]

free flowing intake?, its never going to be "freeflowing" unless you elimate all sensors and vacuums on your intake, just purchase a NT CAI, or make something up custom, run your own piping to where its going to get flowing air with no restrictions, puttin a GM MAS is not really going to effect much at all, unless your thinking that a GM MAS is gonna increase your air circulation into your intake cause its bigger?, idk, if i were you ide purchase an cold air intake for a 1G NT on ebay for like 50$ most are legit and have the appropriate setup for your stock sensor

 

[kottyking]

It should be the same as wiring it into a 1g turbo. The mas plug and wiring is the same.

To all the haters this is actually a good idea since on a NT its even more important to have a free flowing intake. Not sure if it will be cost effective but it wont hurt.

Not True. mass air sensor - the turbo mass air sensor has a 7th wire coming out of it as opposed to the nt's 6 wires. As stated from a nt/t swap.

 

[1stGenRocks]

Not True. mass air sensor - the turbo mass air sensor has a 7th wire coming out of it as opposed to the nt's 6 wires. As stated from a nt/t swap.

i stand corrected does it say what the wire is?

 

[kottyking]

Its from Mavinsky's nt to t swap. PM him Im sure he'd be happy to answer that question.

 

[staticbrainwash]

Hence the net from the turbo, but in a strictly NA application i doubt it would net much gain.

 

[DROOPY209]

I believe that you WILL benefit from a GM MAF-Translator setup since you plan on running higher compression and a built engine.

You will be able to tune with the Translator setup and compensate for your injectors, as I imagine that you will probably install bigger injectors with your setup.

Its been proven that the GM 3" MAF-Translator setup flows more then a 2G MAS, so that is already at a disadvantage, you can't tune your car with just a 2G MAS unless you buy a AFC.

You will flow more air, and be able to tune your setup with a GM 3" MAF-Translator setup.

It all boils down to how serious you plan on getting with your modifications.

 

[staticbrainwash]

which is exactly what i said. Unless he plans to upgrade injectors (which he never mentioned or gave a back story with at all) a maft is a little rediculous.

 

[TT_NS]

i know there is allot of stuff i do not know. i will never know every thing. That is why im on this site in the first place. Iv done a couple build before but they all included turbos. this is my first build with all motor so im not 100% sure what to do. im just getting all my info before i start. And i have a short ram intake for that car laying around. and yea i prefer short ram over cold air but thats just me. any way i think the GM maf would be a positive thing to have on this car although it is a little expensive to get for such little of a change but when it comes down to it every little bit counts on a N/T since there is a limited amount of upgrades you can actually do. I used that GM MAF on my talon and it worked just fine although i did not use it to tune the car itself. but i would like to use it for the GS so there is less restriction. But if any thing it would be at the bottom of the list of upgrades of cores. there are other important things i am focusing on first. for instants im still not sure what cams to use. but im still curious if any one has ever been able to wire in the GM MAF into a N/T 1g

 

[staticbrainwash]

If you had given back story on any of this in the first place maybe you would have gotten better answers.

For future refrence, there is a whole NA section on this site you can search through. I'd say just do some more research on there before you start asking questions.

Also, please update your vehicle info. Obviously you don't have a tsi anymore, so update about the NA, it'd help the rest of us out a little better.

On another note, i don't doubt a Gm-maft setup would flow nicely, but on an NA motor, i don't see flow being THAT big of an issue as it is with a turbo car (hence the reason for the maft setup).

 

[TT_NS]

the NA section dosent have to much information and there realy isent any information on this subject but it was more of a shot in the dark any way.

 

[Spoolio]

i know there is allot of stuff i do not know. i will never know every thing.

I know what I'm doing.

hmmm....

 

[steve]

For reference the extra wire on the turbo MAF is the reset line the ECU uses to reset the MAF hardware. If I think about it I'll look and see if it's a active high or low signal.

Steve

 

[Lordpaxin]

could a NA possibly 'SUCK' enough air to be in the same league as a turbo car's intake needs?

I would have to say I dont see a Performance enhancement, except tunability.

I do however have interrest in this project of yours so make sure you keep the posts flowing about its progress, Im curious is its possible to build a NA dsm into Turbo territory performance level.

 

[Spoolio]

could a NA possibly 'SUCK' enough air to be in the same league as a turbo car's intake needs?

I would have to say I dont see a Performance enhancement, except tunability.

I do however have interrest in this project of yours so make sure you keep the posts flowing about its progress, Im curious is its possible to build a NA dsm into Turbo territory performance level.

in the words of napoleon dynamite "Heck No"