Input on this ebay turbo?

[phunny]

Just thought I'd look on ebay and i found this.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T...1QQihZ015QQcategoryZ33742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
p.s. look at this front mount kit. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-9...QcategoryZ33742QQihZ015QQitemZ250003203944Any suggestions?
thx, charlie

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

stay away from those turbo's bud. they are knock offs and have shown to have a very very high failure rate.

 

[TSIMonsteR]

The intercooler kit looks fine, but I'd wouldn't put my hard earned cash on that turbo.

 

[phunny]

sounds good. btw, if u can buy the fmic's from ebay for so cheap why do we all spend tons of money on them?
charlie

 

[starsthensun]

Is this turbo a trashy one also?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mits...ryZ33742QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[keymaster]

And you get your mad tyte carbon fiber BOV . If you're looking for an ebay FMIC, get the SSAutochrome one.

 

[Slow95gsx]

sounds good. btw, if u can buy the fmic's from ebay for so cheap why do we all spend tons of money on them?
charlie

A garrett or precision core is going to perform WAY better than a ebay one. If you run a ebay core then switch to a gerret/precision you will watch you IAT's drop WAY down. Its been said 1000's of times but, you get what you pay for.

 

[bigdogg2834]

Is this turbo a trashy one also?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mits...ryZ33742QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Again, stay away If it isn't a genuine MHI I wouldn't personally buy it. Some have had luck with these Evo 3 gt turbo variants but unless it's a genuine MHI I just wouldn't risk it. Fmic kit looks decent though.

 

[bigdogg2834]

And you get your mad tyte carbon fiber BOV . If you're looking for an ebay FMIC, get the SSAutochrome one.

I second this. I have the kit sitting at my house. I haven't put it on yet but after examining it, it looks like a pretty good kit. For the price it's hard to beat.

 

[starsthensun]

Again, stay away If it isn't a genuine MHI I wouldn't personally buy it. Some have had luck with these Evo 3 gt turbo variants but unless it's a genuine MHI I just wouldn't risk it. Fmic kit looks decent though.

so your saying I should not have bought this turbo? Everything looks good on it, do they just junk out after a little use or what?

 

[keymaster]

A garrett or precision core is going to perform WAY better than a ebay one. If you run a ebay core then switch to a gerret/precision you will watch you IAT's drop WAY down. Its been said 1000's of times but, you get what you pay for.

Really... Do you have test results to prove this? The SSAC core is an EXACT replica of the AGP race core. I seriously doubt you'd see any significant difference.

 

[TSIMonsteR]

A garrett or precision core is going to perform WAY better than a ebay one. If you run a ebay core then switch to a gerret/precision you will watch you IAT's drop WAY down. Its been said 1000's of times but, you get what you pay for.

um... no. Your statement is way to generalized, and incorrect. I can garuntee that the xs power FMIC will perform just as well, if not better. What is it that you thinks makes those cores so much different?

 

[TSIMonsteR]

I would not, however, buy a product with no reputation whatsoever. I wouldn't skimp on a turbo, the genuine, proven ones aren't that much more. IMO, PTE's, and Holsets are a bargin anyway

 

[daren_p]

99.9% of the time you get what you pay for, personally I only purchase parts I know are going to last. That $250 won't seem like such a good deal if it craps out in a months time and you have to buy another one, or even worse ends up costing you a motor (not that likely but it is possible). The origional posted turbo is a knock off and so is the evoIII posted further down (and that isn't the GT knock of evoIII as someone has stated above) I wouldn't touch either of these.

 

[qwklil4]

For those that say ebay turbos are crap search for the write ups by newlogics and terbolaser. Both are running great.

 

[tstkl]

yea, they haven't blown, but like BOTH mechanics have said (I know paul personally) the turbos have a LOT of lag, so once boost finally hits, its a big jerk of power. I personally would rather have a turbo that has been designed properly and I know isn't going to die. Just because some people (people who know what they are doing and do everything perfectly and the correct way, not half ass it like most dsm'ers do) have had success, (if you can even call it that, apparently paul's guy is calling him every other day with problems because he is mechanically retarded) doesn't mean everyone will. A turbo is a very important part of a car, it ranks second in my book, only to the LONG BLOCK.

some retard at my school bought a turbokit off ebay for his 95 civic dx, and I am in the process of installing that, so I have first hand experience with the parts, and they just feel like they were slapped together, and the kit itself wasn't designed for the car at all. Nothing so far has fit, and now that we are almost done, I'll have video proof, failure or not. We really only have the oil drain line, and bov left. The bov is that carbon fiber flimsy POS and the reason why I haven't slapped it in yet is because the o-ring it came with was WAY to big. (I don't think its actually called an o ring, but its the metal ring that you compress to hold the hks bov into its flange.) The kit also didn't come with a 3 inch to 2.5 inch reducer pipe, so the intake pipe isn't on yet, but seeing as thats increadibly hard, it should only take 30-40 seconds after that comes in the mail, along with an actual hks oring, which should solve that problem. Also, genius honda boy here tried to install the downpipe himself, (which was stupid because we just had to take it off to get the drain pan off for the oil drain line for the turbo) and more than likely stripped the threads in the turbine housing, but why you ask? because the downpipe is about half an inch too long. To top that off, we had to make a bracket for the downpipe where it meets the cat, because the flanges don't even line up. I think whoever made this kit, made it without the help of a ruler of any type. after this whole thing, Im surprised it all actually fit in the long run. Theres a reason all those other people charge more. They buy tools, (like a ruler) and build stuff that WORKS. you get what you pay for, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!!!!!!

can't stress that enough.

 

[chicagoavenger]

You get what you pay for is soooo overused here. I don't see anyone complaining about the ebay fmic, ebays intakes, ebay filters, etc etc. Yes some things you get what you pay for but on little shit cmon. It's been proven time and time again. hell even Dejon now sells knock off bov. i don't see anyone bitching about that cause it sayd Dejon on it and they charge more for the same thing from ebay. You guys go spend 800+ on a fmic and 130+ on a piece of pipe called an intake and 50+ for a filter

 

[dsmsucks]

Bud if the ad says 16g of any kind just look at the compressor housing(silver part of turbo) If it DOESNT again DOESNT say tdo5h stay AWAY from it!!!! STAY AWAY from EBAY TURBO and FUEL PRESSURE REGULATORS period

 

[phunny]

Sounds like they can keep the turbo, but I'm going to buy the FMIC core and do a review on it. I'm also gonna go to the muffler shop and make the piping. Do you all recommend coating the exhaust pipe with anything to extend its life? I'll be pulling and replacing the pipe once a year so it doesn't have time to try to rust and damage everything.
thx guys

 

[keymaster]

There have already been numerous reviews on the FMIC. Why would you spend the money to have a shop fab up piping, when you can get the whole kit for $295? That makes zero sense to me, but it's your money, knock yourself out.

 

[qwklil4]

yea, they haven't blown, but like BOTH mechanics have said (I know paul personally) the turbos have a LOT of lag, so once boost finally hits, its a big jerk of power. I personally would rather have a turbo that has been designed properly and I know isn't going to die. Just because some people (people who know what they are doing and do everything perfectly and the correct way, not half ass it like most dsm'ers do) have had success, (if you can even call it that, apparently paul's guy is calling him every other day with problems because he is mechanically retarded) doesn't mean everyone will. A turbo is a very important part of a car, it ranks second in my book, only to the LONG BLOCK.

some retard at my school bought a turbokit off ebay for his 95 civic dx, and I am in the process of installing that, so I have first hand experience with the parts, and they just feel like they were slapped together, and the kit itself wasn't designed for the car at all. Nothing so far has fit, and now that we are almost done, I'll have video proof, failure or not. We really only have the oil drain line, and bov left. The bov is that carbon fiber flimsy POS and the reason why I haven't slapped it in yet is because the o-ring it came with was WAY to big. (I don't think its actually called an o ring, but its the metal ring that you compress to hold the hks bov into its flange.) The kit also didn't come with a 3 inch to 2.5 inch reducer pipe, so the intake pipe isn't on yet, but seeing as thats increadibly hard, it should only take 30-40 seconds after that comes in the mail, along with an actual hks oring, which should solve that problem. Also, genius honda boy here tried to install the downpipe himself, (which was stupid because we just had to take it off to get the drain pan off for the oil drain line for the turbo) and more than likely stripped the threads in the turbine housing, but why you ask? because the downpipe is about half an inch too long. To top that off, we had to make a bracket for the downpipe where it meets the cat, because the flanges don't even line up. I think whoever made this kit, made it without the help of a ruler of any type. after this whole thing, Im surprised it all actually fit in the long run. Theres a reason all those other people charge more. They buy tools, (like a ruler) and build stuff that WORKS. you get what you pay for, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!!!!!!

can't stress that enough.

Heh, was just giving the other side

I like this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T4-T...3QQihZ015QQcategoryZ33742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem but I dont want a friggin P trim turbine.

 

[MrBoxx]

You get what you pay for is soooo overused here. I don't see anyone complaining about the ebay fmic, ebays intakes, ebay filters, etc etc. Yes some things you get what you pay for but on little shit cmon. It's been proven time and time again. hell even Dejon now sells knock off bov. i don't see anyone bitching about that cause it sayd Dejon on it and they charge more for the same thing from ebay. You guys go spend 800+ on a fmic and 130+ on a piece of pipe called an intake and 50+ for a filter

Things like FMIC's, intake tubes, and such are what I consider to be "low load/wear" items. They don't do much of anything besides sit there. A pipe is a pipe, regardless. An intercooler core is an intercooler core. One 30"x3"x12" tube/fin core is going to work more or less like another of the same size.

Things like BOV's and filters are what I consider to be "medium load/wear" items. If one knock-off filter doesn't filter out large particles, you're looking at possible problems. If a BOV fails (such as the Greddy knock-off's membrane is known to do), you're definitely looking at problems. But the parts themselves aren't going to absolutely kill the engine if they fail.

Which brings us to what I consider to be "high load/wear" items. Engine components, turbochargers, clutches. etc. If these are made poorly, with poor or incorrect measurements, using inferior materials in their construction, you're looking at serious danger. It's just not worth the risk going with a knock-off brand when it comes to important things like this.

Regarding the knock-off (Evo GT) turbos: Overall it seems half the people who bought them had issues with them. The other half haven't had any issues, but then again, the turbo's only been on their car for maybe a few months. Given a few more thousand miles, maybe it'll fail. Maybe it won't. I personally have heard too many negative reports of these going bad to ever consider getting one; especially considering that an MHI unit is usually only a few dollars more on most vendors' websites.

 

[1993eclipseGS]

Yea, You get what you pay for....

My buddy bought a cheapo turbo kit off ebay for his honda civic with a stock motor. He bolted it on, Tuned the car with some free (FREE "you get what you pay for") tuning system off his laptop, And ran a 13.4 @ 110mph at the track. So yea, He ran a 13.4 with a 2.3 60ft, For under 1000$ ...... He really did get what he paid for I guess seeing as there are dsm guys with big turbo'd cars running in the 13's, Barely breaking 12's.

I know 'some' of the ebay stuff is junk, But some of the ''cheap'' ebay turbo ''garbage'' turbo kits you buy you ''might'' get lucky with. I guess you hafto see. He was only at like 9psi also. The funny thing is his car would beat half the peoples cars on here with their name brand parts, AND it's a CIVIC. The car is an EASY 12 second car when he finally learns how to drive it.

EDIT: This is a full weight car with a system in it (In example: A big wooden box with speakers, Amp, Spare tire, All that garbage, Full interior, And a driver that was over 140lbs.

Oh and yeah, Don't bother posting all your my dsm owns all bullshit comments because I could care less, I've heard them all in every other thread I posted in trying to give some real world results to this ebay nonsense. Half of the people saying they are garbage never even tried them. They hear from people over the INTERNET that show them pictures of their friends cousins friends brother in laws sisters husbands car... Get over yourself already, Really.

EDIT: As for the whole ''ALOT of lag'' comment, That really is personal preference. What do you consider alot of lag? I've driven cars that don't spool until 5k rpms, On a street car. To me, None of my cars hit full boost under 4k rpms, Anything around 4k is not laggy at all. If you want no lag, Get a supercharger, Or a smaller turbo. Lag is over-rate,d And I especially love it when the 2g guys swap out to a 14b and complain about lag, Hahahhahahahh.

 

[chicagoavenger]

Things like FMIC's, intake tubes, and such are what I consider to be "low load/wear" items. They don't do much of anything besides sit there. A pipe is a pipe, regardless. An intercooler core is an intercooler core. One 30"x3"x12" tube/fin core is going to work more or less like another of the same size.

Things like BOV's and filters are what I consider to be "medium load/wear" items. If one knock-off filter doesn't filter out large particles, you're looking at possible problems. If a BOV fails (such as the Greddy knock-off's membrane is known to do), you're definitely looking at problems. But the parts themselves aren't going to absolutely kill the engine if they fail.

Which brings us to what I consider to be "high load/wear" items. Engine components, turbochargers, clutches. etc. If these are made poorly, with poor or incorrect measurements, using inferior materials in their construction, you're looking at serious danger. It's just not worth the risk going with a knock-off brand when it comes to important things like this.

Regarding the knock-off (Evo GT) turbos: Overall it seems half the people who bought them had issues with them. The other half haven't had any issues, but then again, the turbo's only been on their car for maybe a few months. Given a few more thousand miles, maybe it'll fail. Maybe it won't. I personally have heard too many negative reports of these going bad to ever consider getting one; especially considering that an MHI unit is usually only a few dollars more on most vendors' websites.

Thank you that's what I'm saying . When it comes to internals, turbo's etc etc. I am going to pay the money but on piping and such cmon now.

 

[tstkl]

Things like FMIC's, intake tubes, and such are what I consider to be "low load/wear" items. They don't do much of anything besides sit there. A pipe is a pipe, regardless. An intercooler core is an intercooler core. One 30"x3"x12" tube/fin core is going to work more or less like another of the same size.

Things like BOV's and filters are what I consider to be "medium load/wear" items. If one knock-off filter doesn't filter out large particles, you're looking at possible problems. If a BOV fails (such as the Greddy knock-off's membrane is known to do), you're definitely looking at problems. But the parts themselves aren't going to absolutely kill the engine if they fail.

Which brings us to what I consider to be "high load/wear" items. Engine components, turbochargers, clutches. etc. If these are made poorly, with poor or incorrect measurements, using inferior materials in their construction, you're looking at serious danger. It's just not worth the risk going with a knock-off brand when it comes to important things like this.

Regarding the knock-off (Evo GT) turbos: Overall it seems half the people who bought them had issues with them. The other half haven't had any issues, but then again, the turbo's only been on their car for maybe a few months. Given a few more thousand miles, maybe it'll fail. Maybe it won't. I personally have heard too many negative reports of these going bad to ever consider getting one; especially considering that an MHI unit is usually only a few dollars more on most vendors' websites.

I couldn't have (and didn't) said it better myself