im wanting a 3gen body

[glish_dreams]

actully im also wondering about the motor and trans compared to the 1g and 2g stock 4g63T and 5speed


im guessing in 3rdG they switched sides for the cams and tran hookup..?

any ways i love how they look...so im looking just for a body at the moment.. might want a motor and tranny...

 

[1993eclipseGS]

If it's a 4cylinder, You can bolt up the 90-99 turbo manifold, Or any tubular manifold made for the 1g/2g turbo car. You can also use any mitsu style turbo. Alot of the parts are actually direct bolt on from the 1g/2g turbo cars. My friend has a one so I have first hand experience with it, And the 1g/2g parts comparison. Also, You can use the head from certain year evo's. The stock engine can also handle over 10psi on a tuned car. You're right, The tranny is on the opposite side from the 1g/2g.

 

[ChvyKc]

If it is a 6 cylinder, check these guys out...

Ripp Mods

They make the best forced induction kit for the V6 (6G72), I believe that the highest they made was 330 at the wheels on stock internals at 9 pounds and right around 440 with forged internals.

I know the last time that I checked, the fastest time on a 3G with that set-up was 11.8 with street tires, which isn't that bad considering the lack of aftermarket suppor that they have.

I recently just traded mine in on an '04 Nissan Titan because I have the 1G now, but they are decent cars. Just watch the differentials in them, they suck. I went through three trannies because of them. If you plan on making any kind of power make sure one of the first things your upgrade is the diff.

 

[glish_dreams]

oh i dont even want the motor nor trans.. i just love the look of the car... and ill leave a 1g body for the fast hardcore HPing ... so odds are if i buy the 3rdG with a motor and trans working.. then id problly keep it in there..

now i might be wrong .but arent all turbos the same.. as in .. they go in any car.. that all turbo headers .. end in the same way.. no matter the car...

i say this ..cuz i have a friend that took his twin turbo setup off of his supra..put in on a 3000gt, when he sold it, he put one on his talon, i bought the other, then he sold his talon and put that same turbo on a Probe.. then wrecked that, and hes looking for a nice Nissian and he plans to put the turbo on that...

hes pretty lucky he never had any of his cars more then a month.. or that turbo wouldnt have much spool in it

 

[TooFastTooG]

A 3rd Gen? Honestly, whats attracts people about the 3rd gen body style. I think its sad when the 2nd gen body looks 10 times then the generation after it. But thats just my opinoin.

 

[disillusioned]

A 3rd Gen? Honestly, whats attracts people about the 3rd gen body style. I think its sad when the 2nd gen body looks 10 times then the generation after it. But thats just my opinoin.

It's not just your opinion.

I think that the 3G was built the way it was specifically to attract the older crowd, who wanted a relatively sporty car that didn't look like a ricer. The 2G is definitely more sexy to anyone under 40 (and lots of people over 40) and I wouldn't be caught dead in a 3G. Although the new 2006 looks pretty hot, too... but more like an updated 350Z than its own style.

I love my '98 2G.

 

[1993eclipseGS]

He wasen't asking about what your opinions are on the looks of the car. He was asking for engine information.

 

[TooFastTooG]

He wasen't asking about what your opinions are on the looks of the car. He was asking for engine information.

READ THE TITLE, he was actually asking about both, thanks

 

[1993eclipseGS]

I guess I read it the wrong way. With that said, Here is my friends turbo 3g with supporting mods. I was going to buy it but then I bought the 2g I guess I wasen't useto going from my 1g to a 3g car with tv's in the windows and everywhere else..
I'm sure no one on this site would like it, haha.. And no, He wasen't trying to be ''fast and furious'' with the color so don't bother

 

[speedy13]

well even if he doean't want anynoes opinion,he's gonna get,he's on a forum right?Here goes,In my opinio,the 3rd gen is the ugly duckling of all the eclipses.They can be made pretty cool looking.specially the spider.I wouldn't bother making it a super fast car though,just some bolt-ons,maybe a lightweight flywheel,take advantage of the larger displacement and give it a little bit of juice.I'm obviuosly talking about the gt or gts,In my opinion,not worth turboing the 4-banger.the gt's not bad,it's got some umphh.

 

[glish_dreams]

Well i was asking what the 1st and 2nd Gen are compared to the 3rd Gen motor. Because i do like the 3rd body best of all. and the 1st Gen is the best motor iv ever touched in my life.

But performance wise i dont know about the 3rd Gen theres not much about it on this site <why is that> unlike theres many pages compareing the 1st and 2nd... so i wont go and ask that..

But the more and more i think about this. I know that ill not make my 3rd Gen a all out ballzy motherFer . and would only keep it at a stock turbo and only change the boost. So odds are ill probly not even waste my time putting in a 1st or 2nd motor , if im not even going to get the fullness out of the pair.

I actully opened this theard.. Becuz over all Im looking for a 3rdGEN eclipse. Any buddy know of one. Im not putting alot in the car so thats why i ask for a body cuz a running one... ill pay a arm and a leg...

As for my opinon on the 4thGEN its very very ugly and i think the car companys ruined yet another car.

first it was the celica... then it was the charger... now eclipse...


1g all the lines are prefect.. the car is a bit to round. but overall it works out well.. and makes a great drag car

2g.. the lines are so prefect.. i think where the door line meets the back of car (im talking about the crack in the door) .. i jst fell like the back end dont match the car. but i still want a 2g non the less

3g i dont know.. its just a nice lookin car.. i love how the corners stick out like diamonds on the car.. and how low the car looks like its sitting


ps.. iv asked even Performanceprobe.com

what does <ricer> mean.. i thought it was just a dog name for honda kids.. <###s> i hate how they thing honda is the best.. they just dont know tell they put a foot on a 4g63

 

[glish_dreams]

I guess I read it the wrong way. With that said, Here is my friends turbo 3g with supporting mods. I was going to buy it but then I bought the 2g I guess I wasen't useto going from my 1g to a 3g car with tv's in the windows and everywhere else..
I'm sure no one on this site would like it, haha.. And no, He wasen't trying to be ''fast and furious'' with the color so don't bother

wow thats really pretty... got a better pick of the front end

green one

 

[1993eclipseGS]

His cardomain name is sweeteclipse , I believe. The only other picture I got of the car is blurry.

 

[MrBoxx]

I know that ill not make my 3rd Gen a all out ballzy motherFer . and would only keep it at a stock turbo and only change the boost. So odds are ill probly not even waste my time putting in a 1st or 2nd motor , if im not even going to get the fullness out of the pair.

A: When you say you'll keep the stock turbo, are you talking about a 3rd gen?

B: When you say putting in a 1st or 2nd motor, are you talking about swapping in a 1st or 2nd generation 4g63 motor into a 3rd generation car?

Your posts are a little confusing to read.

 

[eclipsegsx1736]

And no, He wasen't trying to be ''fast and furious'' with the color so don't bother

Yeah, more like 2Fast 2Furious.

 

[Pezking]

@glish_dreams : Somehow I think you've got something wrong here... The 3rd Gen Eclipse never came with a stock turbo engine. Available options were a 2.4l 4-banger and a 3.0l V6, but no turbo engine.

 

[leet]

Yeah, more like 2Fast 2Furious.

Don't be starting shit over something stupidly pointless.

Jesus, people.

 

[glish_dreams]

well hell.. hows the 2.4 act with a turbo... i guess ill problly swap a 1st gen motor in

 

[1993eclipseGS]

You cannot just ''throw'' in a 1g/2g motor. You need to start doing your research before you just go ripping stuff apart. Actually, You need to buy the car first, Then start planning.

 

[1G Newbie]

Im a veteran when it comes to 3G's. I spent over 3 years & $15,000 into making my 3G eclipse a street monster. I can help you in any way, shape or form if you have any questions. As far as boosting the 3G goes, it's very capable of handling upwards of 14psi on stock internals. I ran mine with e-manage, 255 fuel pump, Garret t3/to4e turbo, FMIC, 550 injectors, aeromotive FPR & much more.

It is possible to swap out the head from an EVO to make it DOHC instead of SOHC. Some other 3Ger's that I know even considered doing a complete EVO engine swap, seeing how the motor has the same orientation. But with the 2.4 liter engine, you already have an EVO motor that's stroked but it's a SOHC. Build the internals, change out the head, & add a turbo & you have a stroked EVO motor inside a 3G shell. You can also use EVO fuel rails, EVO intakes, EVO turbo manifolds & more for the 2000-2005 4g64 Eclipse.

The only downfall to having that much power on a 3G, is it's a FWD car & traction SUCKS! I couldnt launch mine for nothing. I was pushing over 300whp & would spin all the way through 4th gear before gaining traction. (thats why my 3G is sold & own a 1G AWD instead)

The idea of putting a 1G 6bolt motor inside the 3G body will be an extremely difficult task. The 3G motor is spun 180 degrees from how the 1G & earlier 2G motors sit. Not only that, but then getting the ECU & harness' from a 1G & running all that through the firewall. Then comes tranny fitment. the 3G is a 7 bolt motor & not sure if a 2G tranny will fit or not. Im guessing not. You might as well call Jesse James at MONSTER GARAGE to fit the 1G motor in a 3G & while he's at it, make it an AWD conversion!!!

Here are some pics of my 3G project.

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Check out these forums & they'll help you greatly with 3G questions

www.eclipseforums.org
www.club3g.com

 

[speedy13]

WOW WTF .I guess i was wrong about the little 4G64 that could then huh?damm that looks like a mean machine bro.very nice setup.I've seen these before,but it looked like a very involved setup.welll none the less nice car.

 

[glish_dreams]

You cannot just ''throw'' in a 1g/2g motor. You need to start doing your research before you just go ripping stuff apart. Actually, You need to buy the car first, Then start planning.

ok first off im not a noop to eclipse .. and totally not a noop in motor tranny swaps...

trust me.. if i do get a 3rdgen and put in a 1st ...i know what kinda hell im infor...

i no for the first fact.. every swaped sides... so knowing that.. its a given that ill have to make my own mounts... everything else.. ill do what i always did in the past.. worry about it when it happens.

 

[glish_dreams]

<1G Newbie>
hell yea.. thats a very nice ride
ok... how about this one... since i didnt know 3g.. is a SOHC and they dropped AWD...

how to you think this sounds... v6 twin turbo..... now on the HP im not really wantting to go to far over 250 .. and id say twin turbo would be a waste and all.. BUT i doubt its been done yet...

whats crappy though.. even the v6 is only SOHC ..

 

[1G Newbie]

<1G Newbie>
hell yea.. thats a very nice ride
ok... how about this one... since i didnt know 3g.. is a SOHC and they dropped AWD...

how to you think this sounds... v6 twin turbo..... now on the HP im not really wantting to go to far over 250 .. and id say twin turbo would be a waste and all.. BUT i doubt its been done yet...

whats crappy though.. even the v6 is only SOHC ..

Boosting the 6 cylinder (6g72) motor is possible as well. & in fact, has been done with, single turbo, twin turbo & even superchargers. But the 6G72 motor isnt nearly as strong as the 4 cylinder 4g64. Displacement reasons... We all know, "there is no replacement for displacement"

As far as HP goes, you can easily establish 250hp with a single turbo or a stage 1 supercharger from www.rippmods.com on the 6g72 motor. Check out www.tearstone.com for both 4 cylinder & 6 cylinder turbo kits for the 3rd generation eclipse.

If you browse the 3G forums in my post above, you can find the "forced induction" threads that are very helpful. They have a thread for both the 4g64 & the 6g72. They answer a lot of questions in there if you use the search tool. If you read every post on the first page, I can just about gaurentee you'll be totally informed about the 3G & boosting it. Just about every nook & cranny of the eclipse is discussed through & through.

Here is a picture of a single turbo kit for the 6 cylinder 6g72 Eclipse

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Here is a picture of a Twin Turbo on a 6G72

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Feel free to ask if you have more questions. Might as well lend some 3G knowledge since I am no longer using it

 

[glish_dreams]

if its a V then im twin turbo'ing it.... so would you happen to know where i can get a 3rdGEN body