I need help!!

[Tyknowlden]

Let me start with my story.. so i bought a 96 talon tsi beautiful car in all ways except it does not run, it was an old project car for a race shop, too bad they had no idea what they were doing they dropped a 1g 4g63t into it. my ignition control module is just laying there in the open i have no idea where to put it and i have 2 wires from my crankshaft position sensor with no home therefor i am getting no spark to my coils and i have no idea what to do from this point could someone meybe tell me where my icm or these 2 wires go? meybe upload a detailed picture of where everything needs to go? i bought the hayness book but it did not help. i would appreciate any help, thanks!

 

[ryan lemley]

Is there any way you could post some picutres?

 

[95blackGsTurbo]

The 1g 4g63T was actually the best motor to drop in there. I suggest sprucing up on your DSM facts and seeing what parts are best, why and how they perform. Read up.
http://magnusmotorsports.com/tech/1gina2g.pdf

 

[nuclearr]

You need a 6-bolt install harness or build one yourself. I would sugest researching 6-bolt swap

 

[quiksilver20004]

By ICM do you mean the module that your key works?? With your car having a 6bolt swap you do not need the crankshaft or camshaft sensors from the 7bolt. What happens is you use the stock 6bolt cam sensor and wire it into the engine harness. The 6bolt cam sensor sensor will provide the timing signal for both the cam and crank sensors that were on the 7bolt.

The link that was potsed above was what i used when i installed my 6bolt. The harness you need to make for the cam sensor is covered in that article. You should also make yourself very familiar with VFAQ Site - Visual Frequently Answered Questions

Any questions let me know and i can probably help you

 

[BIRDCLAWTSi]

the icm goes in the right rear cornerof the block, below the coils.

 

[Benshooter]

The crank sensor will not be used. You will however need to wire in a CAS if they didn't already.

As others have said, READ

VFAQ Site - Visual Frequently Answered Questions

Look up the 6-bolt swap article.

And you should be pumped (not pouty) that there's a 1g motor in it.

 

[Tyknowlden]

i aprreciate the help!! the old owner says its the harness i have about 6 wires that all fit together but 2-3 extra ones the car is sparking has compression and i believe its getting gas. i pulled out a spark plug and there was gas on it im wondering if the gas is bad or if its the harness? i did add octane booster and sea foam to no help. any suggestions?

 

[IgotBoost91]

+1 on vfaq

 

[Tyknowlden]

everytime i look at it its just plays with me so pretty but doesnt run = [

 

[gstryyder]

Go thru the 6 bolt swap process in the VFAQ or on magnus's website and figure out what part of the swap they did wrong...

 

[Tyknowlden]

i did some research on the 6 bolt but all they are doing is showing me how i just need to figure out the harness im pretty sure, i do have the 1g and 2g cps wire but i have no idea where to plug it in, my guess is they left the 96 harness in and tried to use it with the 1g engine? i could try to post some pictures but it would be hard to see im sure if it is a 2g harness does anyone know where everything needs to be? could this stop it from starting? i also saw on the 6 bolt they were showing how to reprong the ecu harness does this need to be done? and for it to start? do i need a 1g ecu? i aprreciate all the help!

i will post a video of the engine tomarrow its dark now sorry for not using the vfaq i couldnt figure out how to use it.

 

[quiksilver20004]

You re-pin the inector wires at the plug on the ecu and no you keep the ecu you have. Make sure that you have a 2g temp switch in your coolant neck. I hadnt switched out my 1g temp switch and my car was getting fuel and spark but wouldnt start. after spraying it down with starter fluid and getting it going it ran fine but untill i put that temp switch in it wouldnt start on its own

 

[ali]

well i pulled the ecu and found this. its nothing like the ecu on mag meybe this is a 1g ecu?

that isnt a 1g ecu...looks like the airbag box

 

[Tyknowlden]

sorry this is my 2nd dsm ever i located the ecu. do i change the prongs on the ecu? or the prongs on the harness?

 

[quiksilver20004]

sorry this is my 2nd dsm ever i located the ecu. do i change the prongs on the ecu? or the prongs on the harness?

You switch the pins in the ecu plug. There on that vfaq write up it tells you which pins you swap. This is if the previous owner hadnt already done it. Check the wire colors before you go pulling stuff.

 

[Tyknowlden]

still no start = [ i dont know which wire is which and which needs to be changed i cant really understand the diagrams, i got it to backfire today which i think means it almost started?? i have prob 5 things not hooked up i wonder if thats the problem? ill post some pictures tomarrow. could the ecu prong thing stop it from starting?

 

[quiksilver20004]

still no start = [ i dont know which wire is which and which needs to be changed i cant really understand the diagrams, i got it to backfire today which i think means it almost started?? i have prob 5 things not hooked up i wonder if thats the problem? ill post some pictures tomarrow. could the ecu prong thing stop it from starting?

If the injectors are not in the correct firing order then no the car will not start. That is the same situation with the plug wires. The crank signal from the 1g is inverted compared to the 2g. The people that had your car before you may have already re-pinned the ecu but the plugs are just firing in the wrong order.